I like how @redambrosia put it; we are all (or most are) bombarded daily by the political noise that is so constant in the world today. I come to these forums to learn about painting, check out the work of others, and occasionally grumble about nonsensical thing, but most importantly to shut out all the craziness of the world. I have no objection to debate so long as it is civil, but honestly I don't think it needs to be injected into everything! Perhaps I am somewhat jaded as at the University where I work it is literally non-stop and can get really intense. Here there is really no need for it though, and if someone feels the need to rant or vent or complain or whatever, there is a proper place, even within these forums. I have never gone into the Bee-Keepers forum and frankly I NEVER will; it is simply not why I am here. I don't think what @Chaoswolf is proposing means "keeping your mouth shut", it just means reserving debate for the appropriate outlets. We are supposed to be a community of people who enjoy painting miniatures, does it need to be more than that? Do we bring our intense personal convictions about proper painting procedures to other forums and start fights over blending techniques? Beyond the boundaries of our painting "lives", we are all different people--our various experiences shape our different beliefs and opinions and I would personally be astonished if anyone met another individual here, or even in the real world, who shared the exact same opinions, feelings, beliefs or stance on EVERYTHING. Let us focus instead on that which unites us and respect that we are all VERY different people. We should revel in our passion for painting and share the joy of our artistic creations.