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darkfluid

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  1. I'm really trying to understand the large demand for these things...to the point they are now dominating a few of the core expansions and putting me on the fence about backing them. Just a little background on myself and the way my groups have played for 25 plus years. We use a battle map for role playing when needed, drawing out the rooms and terrain...furniture etc. Why? Because it quick and as things move we need to be able to rapidly adjust. Plus anytime we've tried to use terrain set pieces, props and such...they really get in the way of moving minis, they fall over, etc... Mini's don't set on it, gets in the way of awkward minis...like how do you show that the hydra mini is now half on the kitchen table or coffin and half off? We just ended up removing it the few times we tried. The dwarven forge stuff looks awesome for rooms etc....but I instantly saw we couldn't play with it...too slow to layout compared to drawing and the walls on stuff get in the way of moving minis and line of site for seated players. For wargaming much of this terrain appears to small and or intricate. So I don't see that appeal of that either. Some things like the the connexes would be good wargame terrain. The mystic circle is one piece that would be neat. I just don't see how I would use the crypt in any game for example..especially the fencing...looks to be constantly falling over. Most dioramas and set pieces I've done in the past...it was easier and looked way better to create my own stuff. I could see these things being used for that however..but there can't be that many people out there doing these types of static pieces...so it just doesn't explain it to me. This isn't a complaint...I applaud reaper for listening to the people. I'm just trying to understand, from the point of view of those who want them, the way you are planning on using these things and why you desire them so. I really have a genuine desire to understand what people are using this for.
  2. I understand! Sometimes I also forget, the guy who taught me to paint almost 30 years ago also did museum and commission pieces and taught me how easy it was to make foam, plaster and resin terrain. So I guess that makes more sense. I got into the hobby before there was literally any terrain you could buy at all. That's another thing I forget. If you had terrain back then..it was because you learned to make it...you could only make your own so everyone learned. Plaster and foil makes really easy rocky surfaces, and it's pretty easy to make foam ruins or create your own molds for resin casts. That being said....probably cheaper dollars and cents wise to do it by purchasing bones for some of this stuff...if I still used a lot of terrain. I totally get that. So it's the combination of knowing it...but also not using it much anymore. I'm starting to get this from the other point of view a bit more.
  3. Thanks for the feedback everyone. I just wanted to reiterate...as it may have not been clear enough in my original novel of a post, that I am not complaining or taking a negative tone here. I'm applauding reaper for the listening to the audience, providing the requested stuff, be it terrain and dressings, or Lovecraft and Hobgoblins. I'm truly seeking understand and maybe trying to see things in a new light. Of course, then again, no matter what you do there will be some people who, rather than giving positive feedback, will always say "no one is making you buy it" "don't buy it if you don't like it". I think the dollars and cents argument is a valid one. The thing I didn't think about is the larger amount of skirmish gaming going on now...terrain that is all but worthless in a full on 40k game would be awesome for a skirmish. I don't think I got 100% of what I was looking for...and honestly that may be impossible to get the full picture. There seem to be lots of contributing factors...many seem focused on why people would buy it once it's in the KS, but doesn't add up for me to completely explain the pre-KS demand for it. Maybe it's just the fact that people are really liking the dressings and using them more these days. I could just be out of touch in that regard...or set in may ways. I could give the dwarven forge stuff and the additional dressings another shot in my games. The Crypt fencing would be awesome if it stands up well...maybe with a bit of weight added to the bottom. I do think that...as always, who you play with makes a big difference in what's required to get their creative juices flowing. What may help one group hurts another (I find putting out a crypt seems to lock their imagination on the physical thing...my guys stop filling in with their imagination...other groups I've played with would probably need something like that to get them going). And maybe there is a much larger group of people out there doing show pieces or dioramas than I originally thought. It might not be one thing...but all of them put together. Thanks for the feedback as it's definitely given me some additional ideas. It also got me thinking that I have never played a fantasy setting skirmish game..maybe I'll have to get a Warlord or Song of Blades and Heroes game going. I'm thinking 90% of the stuff I saw as unusable for me like the crypt would be GREAT for that.
  4. darkfluid

    Chronscope minis we'd like to see thread 2

    Just adding another request for ShadowRun Style minis...seems very hard to find these, and the old ones...well 90% are terrible.
  5. darkfluid

    Bones Kickstarter #2 Discussion

    Well I upped my bid by a multiplier of 5x, I hope it helps. I've kept tight lipped, I understand why Reaper did the $50 expansion packs this time (distribution must be easier that way) and I understand why more terrain (a lot of people were asking for it), but I must say, I wish I could just get the Bathalian, Kulathi and IMEF from that pack on its own. I know there's something for everyone. Congrats reaper, this is a fantastically successful campaign, and I know that 3 years ago, there is no way you could have imagined ever having this number of minis in your bones line today. I imagine this has literally transformed the future of the company, even if you never do another kickstarter campaign again. Outstanding vision and outstanding support from your long time customers (like myself ;-) ).
  6. darkfluid

    Bones Kickstarter #2 Discussion

    LOL, I'm not complaining, but I will second the question. Can he stand up with that small base?
  7. darkfluid

    Bones Kickstarter #2 Discussion

    But each of those after the KS closes dollars is worth a bit more to Reaper than those from the KS. KS charges a percentage fee - any funds picked up after the KS closes means that Reaper get's to keep the fee (and use it for more machines and molds of course). Good point! And to LittleBluberry as well; I thought of that right after I posted. No doubt, I already figured on this much, and it would be silly for Reaper not to allow it for that very reason. Plus I added quite a bit last time afterwards, because i was in the middle of upping my pledge when Cthulhu rose and killed the Kickstarter servers. There are two issues with this and hopefully Reaper is smart tries to do something to take them into account: 1. It prevents us from unlocking new levels with all those extra funds. I had friends hop on for an extra $400 last time after it closed. Maybe they could continue to unlock levels during the first 48 hours of the questionnaire phase? 2. It's hard to determine, but it might actually result in less money for reaper...even if they do save on the KS fees. Less money during the KS, means less unlocks, means less fervor and excitement, means less bandwagon funding. Either way, there is probably no way to easily fix this and I say they are doing pretty ok as it is. It's actually probably more on us to commit as many funds as we can during the KS and encourage our friends to do so. It may not benefit reaper as much, but it definitely benefits us.
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    Bones Kickstarter #2 Discussion

    Shakandara and Dan are right on point, it's the entire thought I had while reading the last few pages and catching up. Non-Issue, we are 3 days in and 20+ days left. Stay calm people, shipping estimates will come and no one said that your $10s won't be accounted for in the final RoW shipping costs. I was just wondering if reaper has hurt themselves at all on this kickstarter, momentum wise, by allowing additional funds after the close on the last one. I mean, there are probably a lot of people only in at the $100 mark, who will probably add another $100 or more in the last days once they add up all of their add ons. But I wonder how many people who simply wait until the kickstarter is closed and add funds during the questionnaire phase. I guess my point is that we need to make sure we are committing our funds up front and encouraging others to do so. We need to make sure people understand that the benefits of it. I'm not sure where this will hit, there is no doubt many already who are going to more than double their existing pledge by the end, so you'll see a rush in the last few days again. I think $5 million is not out of the question, but it may well only get to 3.5 or 4, depending on word of mouth and the number of people who commit their funds before closing.
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