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#1 papabees

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 02:51 PM

Well, I thought it was high time someone started a subject specifically for we of the Templar nation to refine our strategies and tactics. Enough of the pretenders, Let hear what we Knights have to say. I want to see some army lists and hear about what has worked (and what hasn't). Let the Followers of Mason be heard!

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Posted 17 January 2006 - 01:48 AM

HELLO...HELLo...HELlo... HEllo...Hello...hello...


Hmm..guess no one's here.
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Posted 17 January 2006 - 06:38 AM

Greetings and thank you Sir Papa for opening this place so that the Templar may gather properly. As to my lists I'm still thin on models but I do have more on order whenever they finally make it here. I also have some people in my area interested in trying CAV out so the three or four of us are going to muddle our way through a few games and see if we can't pick up a bigger following.
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Posted 17 January 2006 - 06:41 PM

While I haven't made any steadfast Task forces yet I do have a few CAV Armor platoons worked up

CAV Assualt platoon (Knight Commander's Platoon)
H-M Knight (KC)
H-M Warlord
H-M Warlord
Viper Adder (currently building from various parts)

CAV Recon Platoon (Scout Platoon)
H-M Crusader
H-M Spartan
H-M Spartan
H-M Spartan
H-M Spartan
H-M Spartan

CAV Fire Support Platoon (Knight Commander's Platoon)
H-M Centurian (KC)
H-M Soveriegn III
H-M Soveriegn III
H-M Soveriegn III

CAV Armor Platoon *
H-M Knight
H-M Soveriegn III
H-M Duelist
H-M Gladitiator II

CAV Command Platoon (Knight Commander's Platoon) **
H-M Centurian (KC)
H-M Paladin
H-M Paladin
Viper Asp

CAV Rapid Response Platoon **
Viper Asp
Viper Asp
Viper Cobra
H-M Crusader


*This Platoon is fast becoming a favorite due to its low cost (under 1200) and its versitality. The Soveriegn is there to provide a protective umbrella against gunships and strikes as well as fire support. The Duelist is used as the anti-hard infighter unit with its Guass Cannons and ESM. The Gladys is of course the soft killer and long Range hunt with its DFMs. Which leaves the knight to support all three in their tasks. Pair it with a platoon of 3 H-M Lance tanks (or maybe replace one of the Lances for a Viper Vemon for extra punch), a flight of Longbows and two Light Armor platoon consisting of two Flails and a sabre each and you still have change left over (for a 3k Task Force) to adjust as needed.

** Obviousily, these platoons are just in the planning stage due to the lack of models. I do however have the Centi paint in Parade colors for the Command platoon.
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Posted 17 January 2006 - 06:51 PM

Oh, and to answer and earlier question posed by Papa

The H-M Arbalest II and H-M Trebucket are TACs (Tactical Aerospace Crafts) so you won't find their stats in CAV2... but they are there... who do you think provides the Strafe Runs and what-nots.

The Cherub BA is the name of the Templar Jump infantry's Battle Armor. The name is derived from the small stablizer wings found on their backs.
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Posted 18 January 2006 - 08:45 AM

I am quickly becoming a fan of the Viper CAVs. Two guns w/ Hunter and Linked (ooooo, aaaaah ::D: ). What are you using to proxy. I was considering a Challenger torso w/ Sultan arms. Still deciding on the legs though. Have you seen any source art?

So what colors are you guys using for your forces? I want to go with something very "paladinesque" myself. Not quite sure yet.

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Posted 18 January 2006 - 09:27 AM

I think Mil-net.net had put up some sketches of a few pieces of viper equipment.
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Posted 18 January 2006 - 02:29 PM

I am quickly becoming a fan of the Viper CAVs. Two guns w/ Hunter and Linked (ooooo, aaaaah ::D: ). What are you using to proxy. I was considering a Challenger torso w/ Sultan arms. Still deciding on the legs though. Have you seen any source art?

So what colors are you guys using for your forces? I want to go with something very "paladinesque" myself. Not quite sure yet.


For my Adder, I'm using parts and bits (mostly bits) from the Falcon, the Katana, a Spartan, and yes the arms from a Sultan (part of them anyway). Blitz is the one who is doing the digital modeling for the Vipers and H-M models. From my understanding he has even started on the Adder design yet. So I'm just making a wild guess on what it looks like.

For the Paladin, I was concedering using the arms from a Rhino, the Torso from a 'Hawk VI and the IFM rack from the Soveriegn III. Not sure about the legs must likely the Rhino's though.


Colors... well for my Command section I've decided to go with the "parade colors" scheme. White (Off-white Triad), dark blue (Martial Blues Triad), and Black (pure black base coat with a mix of Pure black abd ghost white dry brushed of the black) were the last I heard the faction colors as seen on the Archer over on Reapergames mini gallery (one of the first ones).

The rest of my force has been painted in the Woodland Camo pattern as seen on the Crusader over on Mil-net. I really love the Olive Green Triad. The next half of my regiment I'm gonna give them a desert camo scheme using the Terran Khaki Triad, the warm deep browns Triad, Red Brown Triad and the Pure black.
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Posted 18 January 2006 - 03:08 PM


I am quickly becoming a fan of the Viper CAVs. Two guns w/ Hunter and Linked (ooooo, aaaaah ::D: ). What are you using to proxy. I was considering a Challenger torso w/ Sultan arms. Still deciding on the legs though. Have you seen any source art?

So what colors are you guys using for your forces? I want to go with something very "paladinesque" myself. Not quite sure yet.


For my Adder, I'm using parts and bits (mostly bits) from the Falcon, the Katana, a Spartan, and yes the arms from a Sultan (part of them anyway). Blitz is the one who is doing the digital modeling for the Vipers and H-M models. From my understanding he has even started on the Adder design yet. So I'm just making a wild guess on what it looks like.

For the Paladin, I was concedering using the arms from a Rhino, the Torso from a 'Hawk VI and the IFM rack from the Soveriegn III. Not sure about the legs must likely the Rhino's though.


Colors... well for my Command section I've decided to go with the "parade colors" scheme. White (Off-white Triad), dark blue (Martial Blues Triad), and Black (pure black base coat with a mix of Pure black abd ghost white dry brushed of the black) were the last I heard the faction colors as seen on the Archer over on Reapergames mini gallery (one of the first ones).

The rest of my force has been painted in the Woodland Camo pattern as seen on the Crusader over on Mil-net. I really love the Olive Green Triad. The next half of my regiment I'm gonna give them a desert camo scheme using the Terran Khaki Triad, the warm deep browns Triad, Red Brown Triad and the Pure black.


Saint,, I saw your Crusader conversion over on Mil-Net here recently (yeah I am behind I know) it has inspired me to work on a couple myself. I have bits on the way for two Crusaders I plan on working into a dedicated recon unit. Just need to decide on what to use for the PBG's now.

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Posted 19 January 2006 - 01:52 AM

[Colors... well for my Command section I've decided to go with the "parade colors" scheme. White (Off-white Triad), dark blue (Martial Blues Triad), and Black (pure black base coat with a mix of Pure black abd ghost white dry brushed of the black) were the last I heard the faction colors as seen on the Archer over on Reapergames mini gallery (one of the first ones).

The rest of my force has been painted in the Woodland Camo pattern as seen on the Crusader over on Mil-net. I really love the Olive Green Triad. The next half of my regiment I'm gonna give them a desert camo scheme using the Terran Khaki Triad, the warm deep browns Triad, Red Brown Triad and the Pure black.
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Sounds neat! ::): Are these triads, generic camoflage mixes or is it something special to CAV?

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Posted 19 January 2006 - 12:38 PM

[quote name='dannibal' date='Jan 19 2006, 01:52 AM' post='291567']
[Colors... well for my Command section I've decided to go with the "parade colors" scheme. White (Off-white Triad), dark blue (Martial Blues Triad), and Black (pure black base coat with a mix of Pure black abd ghost white dry brushed of the black) were the last I heard the faction colors as seen on the Archer over on Reapergames mini gallery (one of the first ones).

The rest of my force has been painted in the Woodland Camo pattern as seen on the Crusader over on Mil-net. I really love the Olive Green Triad. The next half of my regiment I'm gonna give them a desert camo scheme using the Terran Khaki Triad, the warm deep browns Triad, Red Brown Triad and the Pure black.
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Sounds neat! ::): Are these triads, generic camoflage mixes or is it something special to CAV?
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Its Reaper's Master series paint. They have released them in sets three shades (Light, medium, and a dark). I'll base paint a model in the medium hue then give it a wash with the heavy, and then drybrush back with the light.
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 10:07 AM

OK I thinking of putting together a proxy for a Paladin and wanted others thoughts. Here is what I had planned: Warlord torso and missle packs, Butcher arms and Centurion legs. Thoughts?? I thought it would be cool if when we proxied we all came up with some coordinated effort to do so.

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 10:47 AM

I like using the Centurion's legs as they have the size for the monster that the Paladin is. I think I would lean toward the body of the Sovereign though as it has more bulk. Then use either the Warlord's or the Centurian's arms. I know it would take a bit more woerk but I have been thinking of using the Centurion's arms but chopping the missles off and then using the bigger launcher from the Sovereign. The Knight's body has a great look to it but it's too small for the Centurion's legs.
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 11:32 AM

I was going to use the Warlord's Torso? Did you have a typo or miss that. The Soveriegn is intruiging though. I'll have to give that some thought.

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 03:04 PM

I was going to use the Warlord's Torso? Did you have a typo or miss that. The Soveriegn is intruiging though. I'll have to give that some thought.


I didn't miss it I thought that you were looking for some other ideas as well sorry. The Warlord has a solid core but I'm not sure how bulky it is as mine has not arrived yet :down:
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