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#1 Jasung

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 04:58 PM

TL;DR - Are there many board and card game enthusiasts around the Reaper forums?

I know that these forums deal primarily with miniatures and miniature games. Often times, from my experience, these same folks that enjoy miniatures also enjoy board and card games. And many times, board and card games employ miniatures in their game (or brought in by the players for use with the game). Is there a strong presence for this hobby present in these forums?

I enjoy playing many different types of board and card games (and I'm not talking about Monopoly or Battleships). ^^' Are there many board and card game enthusiasts around here? I feel a little alone in that regard having not come across topics that discuss the board game hobby around here. Perhaps I'm just not looking hard enough; though, I admit that I am guilty of just glancing around...

I don't play many miniature games and only playing them with others that have enough models to field other players. I've only just begun collecting miniatures. (Excluding different miniature orders on the way, I use to have twelve, but after theft, I have only eight left--all Reaper minis.) I suppose miniature games are board games, but they act and play distinctly very differently from board games to me. I do play a fair amount of RPGs and many times miniatures are involved but I don't feel like those games are miniature games in of itself. I play to play the role-playing part of it. It's because of RPGs and the people involved in that which finally convinced me to just grab a few miniatures--it took years mind you. I guess they got tired of seeing the penny or a scrap of paper as a Vatican spy or a die-four being the guy with the pointy hat. Heh. All good though.

If there are folks that really enjoy playing board games around here, then that's great. If not, well, that's just how it is, isn't it?

I think the next order or the next game I will buy from the local area would be Olympos (with the two "o"s). That game seems very intriguing to me. Though it was on my radar once before earlier this year or possibly the tail end of last year, I didn't even think about it until yesterday when it popped into my head again. It seems like a fun civ-lite type of game that shouldn't take too long to play while placing difficult choices for the participants. Too bad it wasn't a half a week sooner when I thought about it or I would have very likely tacked that game onto my last online order. Anyhow, does anyone know this game, Olympos?

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 05:09 PM

I enjoy board and card games a little more than wargaming. Don't get me wrong, I love to see hordes of mini's crossing a table, but it often seems so involved none of my friends want to play. D&D with mini's, though, they love.

Favorites of mine are dungeoncrawl games (e.g. HeroQuest, MunchkinQuest, DungeonQuest, etc), Flux games, and Munchkin card games. I'm also partial to CCG's such as Legends of the Five Rings (L5R) and NetRunner (can't wait to get the re-release!), but I often have to choose between mini-money and card-money. I prefer to go with mini-money, as it retains its value longer.

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 05:16 PM

I'm a big fan of the Descent games, as well as "Last Night On Earth," and a lot of Fantasy Flight's stuff. Kind of burnt on card games since Magic, although Flux, Munchkin, and some others are quite good.

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 05:20 PM

I'm not allowed to play boardgames anymore. I'm "too sneaky" and "win too much".

It's because I tend to play a psychological game. Early on, I'll look for creative ways to do things within the rules. Often, these unusual (but completely fair and legitimate) moves can get me a win by surprise. After a couple of times of this, people start to feel pressured to outclever me.

Sometimes they do. But when I can't win, I'll just do something completely unexpected. Often a poor move. See, if I up and suddenly do something stupid, then they're going to wonder why I did it. I'm smarter than that, and they know it. So I'd only do it if I had a plan. But what's my plan? They can't tell. But they know I've got one. I've always got one. It only looks like an easy win for them. I'm up to something tricky. I've got to be. But what is it? WHAT IS IT?!

Ten minutes later the board is overturned by them in frustration, pieces go everywhere, and my opponent declares they'll never play the game again.

Buglips wins, rage-ality.

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 05:33 PM

I have played a few board games in the past, but some of my favorite ones take a really long time to play through. Risk and Tenjo being the two that tend to take the longest. I also just recently bought a game called Agricola. This one is different, but quite fun. There are options in it to play solo as well. It can be interesting to see how high you can get your score by the end of the game.

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 08:12 PM

TL;DR - What other games have y'all been enjoying lately?

I hear you guys about the card games. Frankly, I'm a little burned out on them as well. Yet, earlier this week I ordered three seperate card games... Pfft, go figure. Hey Dave, I'm also looking forward to Netrunner. I got that preordered, twice in fact. (I had an issue with the original store I ordered at and just reordered it again elsewhere--enough to pass a couple of copies to some buddies.) I had a ticket to PAX Seattle last weekend but wasn't able to attend. :( Some of my friends saw how excited I was about the new reimplementation for Netrunner and picked up a few at PAX. (Yes, they actually had enough there versus the disaster that happened at GenCon.) I'm eager to play it. I even got purple and green sleeves to pay homage to the old game--for the nostalgia. I'm considering using the older Netrunner cards and placing them onto deckboxes or sleeving them with the identities or something...

It's funny. Even though I'm a little burned out on card games, at least for the moment, I've been playing Resident Evil (with expansions) deck-building game (it's surprisingly fun), Heroes of Metro City (playtest version), a few other filler card games, and even *gasp* Dominion recently (which I haven't touched in six months or so) with quite a number of plays. Also... Magic... I haven't touched my cards for a match in... eight years? Six years? It's been a while... I got kicked in the teeth against all these newer decks and some fancy-dancy cards but still managed to get a dozen wins or so out of my decks. I just hope I won't fall back into the trap of collecting them again, heh. Whack a Catgirl is showing up on the tables more often too. It's a simple, stupid game, but we get some laughs out of it. I like how the flavor text is different for every card--even for the duplicates for that game. Even though a lot of us are tired of deck-building games right now, I suppose the mood, or the season, or the water, or... something just struck us and made us play. Odd really how that goes. Gah... I just realized I ordered Rune Age, a deck building game. Heh.

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Perhaps a game of deception and bluffing might be in order. Something like The Resistance, Bang, or Werewolf where the rules and gameplay are fairly simple and easy to grasp but the social interactions and deducing who people are and what they might do become the heart of the game. Shadow Hunters or Battlestar for a more involved game; though, that might be too much. Or perhaps, take a change of pace and try a co-op game? ;) Lots of co-op games abound. Pandemic, Mage Knight, Arkham Horror, etc. Many of those Reaper Bones would go well with Arkham. ^^

Y'know, I've seen Agricola a few times, but never got around to playing it myself. I'm often hosting a different game or get drafted into some game someone brought. It looks involving and appear to have a moderate learning curve. I could be wrong. It's a worker (farm-themed) placement game, right? I think there were quite a number of expansions for it. A dozen or so, right? It seems popular but I haven't seen it hit the tables for like a year now.

Dungeon! is getting a re-release next month. I don't recall playing any of the previous incarnations of it but it seems like a quick and easy dungeon crawl. You can pick that up for less than the cost of a decent pizza. I thought about adding that to my order (at the time of the order I didn't know when it would be hitting the retailers). Glad I didn't, since I want Netrunner to hit the tables sooner rather than later.

What other games have y'all enjoyed recently?

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 10:34 PM

I don't play any RPGs, though I have in the past. There just aren't any people around here that I'm interested in playing with.

But I do love board games and card games- though not Magic type card games- like Rummy, Poker, Canasta, Apples to Apples, Fluxx.... and our family's newest addiction Cards Against Humanity. If you are not familiar with CAH then beware- if you are a kind hearted, politically correct individual then you won't enjoy it. I have even found a way to play while I'm driving. We have about an hours drive to church and we play it on the way there... or whenever we are in the car. It is extremely inappropriate in every way you can think of.

I like board games too- but the typical family night board games, chess, Chinese Checkers, etc.
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Posted 07 September 2012 - 01:00 AM

I'm not allowed to play boardgames anymore. I'm "too sneaky" and "win too much".

It's because I tend to play a psychological game. Early on, I'll look for creative ways to do things within the rules. Often, these unusual (but completely fair and legitimate) moves can get me a win by surprise. After a couple of times of this, people start to feel pressured to outclever me.

Sometimes they do. But when I can't win, I'll just do something completely unexpected. Often a poor move. See, if I up and suddenly do something stupid, then they're going to wonder why I did it. I'm smarter than that, and they know it. So I'd only do it if I had a plan. But what's my plan? They can't tell. But they know I've got one. I've always got one. It only looks like an easy win for them. I'm up to something tricky. I've got to be. But what is it? WHAT IS IT?!

Ten minutes later the board is overturned by them in frustration, pieces go everywhere, and my opponent declares they'll never play the game again.

Buglips wins, rage-ality.


That's funny, I play games to play games, not to play people. ;) Obviously you should play Battlestar Galactica.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 09:52 AM

I play a number of board games, a few card games, and very few RPGs (mostly OSR stuff). I got sucked into this whole Reaper thing via the Kickstarter and wanting to have some minions and heros for my larger RPG battles (I am not a fan of using minis in RPGs except when dictated by the scale of the battle).

Now I find myself needing more games and players so that my host of minis wont feel neglected! I am also starting to look at/think about Wargaming with these Bones. I have always had a superficial interest in Wargaming but everyone around here are 40k players and that game just does not interest me from what I have seen of it.

I am mostly a card and board gamer and I do plan on putting a few appropriate Bones into my Arkham Horror games!

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 10:02 AM

.... and our family's newest addiction Cards Against Humanity...


We have only played that game a couple of times and found that the more beer you drink, the funnier the game becomes. Otherwise, it is just an ok game.

I have played just about every type of game out there at some point in time, and owned a good chunk of them. But, as I have gotten older, I have found board games (and the card game equivalents) to be entirely predictable. Last night, we played Kingdom Come for the first time. We read the rules, and I'm like "This is Carcassonne". Yup, it was basically Carcassonne-lite. Yawn. Descent 2. Super Dungeon Explore. Any game like it. Play through it once, and then yawn. I am more interested in playing a game that requires you to go through some sort of pre-game process, like your standard miniature game. You have to spend hours working up army lists, trying to come up with that perfect list to counter what you think your opponent is going to field, only to be foiled because he took something completely different. Then you do it again, each time being different. A CCG like Magic is very similar to this, but that scene is way too costly to maintain a presence in.

Anyways, while I will still continue to play a board game every once in a while, I prefer miniature games first.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 10:45 AM

I play plenty of boardgames, in particular those that feature trains; Empire Builder (or crayon games) series from Mayfair, the 18xx series published by a lot of different companies (1825, 1829, 1830, 1850, 1870 etc), Railbaron, Ticket to Ride etc. I have Settlers and most of the expansions, Carcasonne and most of the expansions and then there is the collection of military games, my favorite.
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#12 Jasung

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 01:07 PM

Just rambling...

Well Buglips, that's two for Battlestar. One more of that tossed your way and you'll just have to give into peer pressure. Everyone does it, or so I hear. ::P:

I am mostly a card and board gamer and I do plan on putting a few appropriate Bones into my Arkham Horror games!

Yeah, I can see that game and other games with that theme to field many miniatures from the Bones line. They do, after all, work well together. ;) There's plans on our end for the same. ^^ Heck, I've used inappropriate models (not minis, but close enough) for other games... like using Spaceships that goes pew-pew-pew (it's not a real spaceship unless it can go pew-pew-pew in the vacuum of space--everyone knows that!) in games like Stoneage, for example. Terrible... I'm ashamed.

I second your observation about Cards Against Humanity, Bill. What a completely odd and strange phenomena. Obviously, sunspot activity is the cause.

Miniatures and CCGs both require quite a bit of investment. Maybe LCGs are the way to go? Minus the randomization and pick only the cards/expansions you want. Though, I suppose you could always just buy singles for any of these games. At least with miniatures, they're pretty damn cool to look at, I admit.

I was reading over your post and I think everyone gets those feelings from time to time. Maybe you need a change of pace. It seems you're burned out on them. I get that sense too on occasion, but usually for me, every game feels different. I go to several different groups in different cities and some venues are public so I tend to meet with a great variety of opponents (and see different "tastes" in games). I think that helps to keep things fresh. Variety, differences, not knowing how a particular player operates... y'know, mixing things up. I mean, I have close friends, and then I have friends that I see only after a blue moon, and then just meeting new people all the time. If you can't meet different opponents all the time, then you can always try different games, y'know? Try a game that might have fallen out of favor. Who knows, it might be a pleasant surprise. (That sounded a bit preachy... sorry about that.)

By the way, what game is Kingdom Come? I tried to look for it but all I kept finding was Heresy.

I have even found a way to play while I'm driving.

I don't know... isn't that, um, dangerous? Hope you don't meet people by accident.

I was looking at Brass (I think) and Steam for something that involved the rails. Have you tried those? Any thoughts on how each compare to the other? I'm leaning more toward the one that has the shorter playing time and easier rules (to avoid player fatigue and to avoid a lengthly rules explanation) while still involved enough to offer challenges to gamers. Simple to understand rules, the possibility and frequency of player fatigue, and whether a game is prone to analysis paralysis by my opponents are things I always consider when it comes to games. These are things why Dominant Species do not hit the table much as it's too complex for most casual and some serious gamers.

Have you looked at the Next War series? I was considering Next War: Korea, but finally decided not to get it since it is damn pricey. I'd like to play more wargames but there is a distinct lack of interest for that genre in the cities around here. Perhaps it's just due to me going to groups and those games tend not to be group friendly. *Sigh*

Hmm... since Netrunner is still on preorder (didn't make the final order at CSI), I wonder if I can tack on Olympos...
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:58 AM

I love games. In fact yesterday I played games from 10 am to 1.30 am. I played: check your 6! (Boardgame with minis), race for the galaxy, stone age, resistance (din't really enjoy that one) and a bunch more. My favorite game is probably 'Barbarossa to Berlin' but I rarely have the time for that game.
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 01:00 PM

I'm finding more interest in board games or prepacked mini-games. I participated in the OGRE Kickstarter and am anxiously awaiting its delivery. I'm also going to get FFG's X-Wing game. I think what is drawing me to these over miniatures games lately is the lesser set-up requirements. I will most likely get OGRE miniatures eventually, but I don't have to if I don't want to. That's the beauty. The recent spate of similar games on Kickstarter would've been dangerous to my bank account if I weren't on a semi-rigid financial plan. I do own D&D Wrath of Ashardalon, but find that the kids and I have a hard time not dying in it.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 01:04 PM

My family and friends and I love playing board and card games. We've played "Talisman" (the old version) a lot. Also "Cosmic Encounters" (very old version), "Illuminati," all of the "Munchkin" variations, "The Works" (official Studio Foglio "Girl Genius" game), "Credo" (obscure, but a lot of fun, especially if you play with seminarians), and, ehrmm, probably a bunch of others I'll remember later.

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