Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
Pingo

Green stuff and other epoxies -- health hazards & precautions

27 posts in this topic

Here are MIT's safety procedures for dealing with epoxies:

 

http://www.psfc.mit.edu/esh/epoxy.html

 

Note that epoxy is a skin irritant, especially the hardener part.

 

I'm curious to hear how people deal with this. Does anybody sculpt with protective gloves on?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I wouldnt worry too much. While it can be an irritant, keep in mind that Green Stuff (or at least the Kneadatite brand version) as far as I can tell is a solid-formulation polyamide epoxy: solid and polyamide both being mentioned in the "hazard assessment" discussion section as the lowest risk categories.

 

If you are worried or have a history of sensitivity or asthma problems, then Id wear some cheap latex gloves and work in a ventilated area. And a dust mask is never a bad idea when sanding anything. But at the amounts dealt with working with minis, and the relative risk of green stuff compared to other epoxies, youre very unlikely to run into real problems, IMO. Unless you try to eat it... ...

 

Keep in mind that those instructions are made to cover all the way to the other end of the spectrum dealing with large quantities of liquid amine epoxies with chemical fillers.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No gloves, unless I am doing something where fingerprints would be an issue (only needed this once so far). I've never had a problem with skin irritation from the GS.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't have any sensitivities, asthma, or other such health concerns but I also don't handle green stuff every day. I work with it maybe once or twice per week. I use vaseline when I work with it, which helps keep it from adhering to my skin.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

ive not had an issue yet. and have been using greenstuff for a good 10+ years.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The one I will wear gloves with is Milliput as that is a bit more than a skin irritant although the gloves come off after I have mixed it and made the main applications. I primarily use Milliput for terrain though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The one I will wear gloves with is Milliput as that is a bit more than a skin irritant although the gloves come off after I have mixed it and made the main applications. I primarily use Milliput for terrain though.

 

I know this is a bit off topic and so I apologize, but I'm new to the whole painting and basing scene and recently purchased Milliput. Is Milliput pretty much the same stuff as the Green Stuff in terms of what you can do with it? Or should I purchase the Green Stuff to add small modifications to my minis?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Green stuff is more elastic and adhesive than Milliput, so it's better for detail work - You can push it around on the miniature more - And for the application of very small amounts or thin layers.

 

Milliput is more 'clay-like' in texture, not as adhesive, and sets completely rigid (unlike GS) It's also considerably stronger once set, so it's better for bulk work, regular/hard-edged/mechanical forms, and anything you plan to carve to shape at a later date. One final thing about Milliput is that while it's insoluble once cured, it's water-miscible when soft, and as well as using water to snooth it you can make it into a 'slip' to run into gaps and the like.

 

Hope some of this helps.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for the answers Panzer. I'll have to buy some GS now!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't wear gloves with green stuff, though I probably should start. I've got sensitive skin, and after working with green stuff my thumbs and forefingers are tender for the rest of the day. Not painful, just tender as if I abraded them. I'll definitely have to wear gloves if I start working with milliput.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That sort of reaction is worrying. I know some people seem more sensitive to the volatiles you get from curing epoxies than usual, so yes, gloves seem like a good idea.

 

It's ironic really; I've never had any problems with modelling putties - While fluorecent tubes put out enough UV to make my eczma flare up if I spend too long under them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I use nitrile gloves from the pharmacy (latex allergy, ugh). They're bright purple, and when I bring them to workshops the kids love them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I use nitrile gloves from the pharmacy (latex allergy, ugh). They're bright purple, and when I bring them to workshops the kids love them.

how do you knead the putty green without it sticking to the gloves? I'm worried that petroleum jelly would get kneaded in with the putty if I coated the fingers of my gloves with it...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

water on your fingertips, just a bit

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By malefactus
      The combination of Gnoblar & Night Goblin produces a miniature perfectly suited for the downtrodden life style. I usually give them names like Beastly Burden. In this instance, it was pointed out to me that the Little Sufferer had quit an attitude AND a Big Club to back it up. The theme from The Marat/Sade started playing through my head; ergo, he became Robespierre. 
      To showcase him, he is seen hear on his journey to Heep's Place, renowned for it's mushroom distilled beverage, caverns, & bat poop farm...it's like a pilgrimage to the Jack Daniel's Distillery:

       
      ...I swear I heard something:

       
      ...from various angles:

       

       

       
      ...AND wandering off into the sunset:

       
      For those unfamiliar with it, this is Heep's Mushroom Distillery, Bar & Grill. & Bat Poop Caves:

       
      ...there you have it...so to speak.
    • By malefactus
      This is an idea that has been festering in a particularly fertile & equally peculiar corner of my mind. AND now it comes forth as something REALLY SILLY; i.e., my latest kit-bashing creation. the Infamous Goblin Faerie:

       

       

       

       
      ...he will probably wind up hovering over some suitably annoyed Mushroom.
    • By Tricksay
      Here is my entries for the Valentines / Love theme Contest.
      I couldn't think up a nice, sweet entry.....so went with a theme....Playing with Your Heart.
      I was in luck that Fangaud, included in my Secret Sophie gift the Familiar Pack XI. Which had two perfect minis to customize a little for the contest. I love all the Familiar Packs, they have such cute lil figures, with so much detail, in tiny lil packages.
       
      First One.....Lil Demon, Playing Heart Hopscotch....
       




       
      Second One....Cute Demoness, With her Heart Yoyo....the ups and downs of love...
       




      This lil Lady needed a dress sculpted, as she was a little indecent for the theme.
      Then I green stuff-sculpted the anatomical hearts. Didn't get the yoyo one quite a small as I wanted, but not sure if it would have "read" as a heart if I had done it smaller.
       
      C&C always appreciated !
    • By Sylverthorne
      Alright. So, I decided I was going to play too. Why not? It's fun, and Mr. Bold is not large. Very relaxing, after Khanjira. >.>
       
      Anyway. We all know what the original looks like, so... on to the modification!
      My GS-fu is still pretty weak, but I pulled some out and mushed it about and began sculpting a credible pepper over Mr. Bold's sword. Because, really, why cut it off if it provides a functional armature?!
       

       
      After some wrapping and squishing and delicate tool use (I suspect one of said tools is visible there in the background), I had the start of a functional sort of pepper. And not even too long. Although I realized that I was going to have to add some more to the base...
       
      So, I did.
       

       
      And then I glued Mr. Bold to a handle (I use soda bottle lids, myself), and tweaked his pepper a little bit. Thickened the end, trimmed some bits off his sword so that it better approximates a stem, that sort of thing. Ready to paint! Just need to get some primer on the green stuff, because I sort of had it in my head that to be properly seasoned, the pepper has to be red. >.>
    • By Pingo
      I mentioned this in Randomness a few days ago, but people should be aware of this.
       
      There is a massive recall of frozen vegetables ongoing in the US at the moment.
       
      Listeria contamination is suspected in frozen organic and regular vegetables processed by CRF Foods in Pasco, Washington. They supply vegetables and ingredients under a large number of brands to many retailers, including Trader Joe's, CostCo, Krogers, and Publix Supermarkets.
       
      The recall is not just vegetables, but dishes like stir fries, frozen entrees and salads made with those vegetables.
       
      Several lists of some of the products affected are here:
      http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm499406.htm?source=govdelivery&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery
       
      http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm499568.htm?source=govdelivery&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery
       
      http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm499623.htm?source=govdelivery&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery
       
      http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm499858.htm?source=govdelivery&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery
       
      http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm499852.htm?source=govdelivery&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery
  • Who's Online   27 Members, 4 Anonymous, 0 Guests (See full list)