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#1 Wilco

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 12:37 PM

Hi Everyone!

I've very recently started painting miniatures. I will soon receive a bunch of miniatures through Kickstarter (not reapers), and figured they will need painting.

So I researched all over the internet for about 2 weeks reading in various forums and watching youtube videos and reviews etc. I then purchased the Reaper Learn to Paint kits along with an Army Painter detail brush and files and have been working through those miniatures. Thus far, I have enjoyed it and the mini's have come out better than I had expected and I plan to increase my painting supplies before my other minis arrive.

I am thinking about purchasing a set of paints and I am trying to decide between the Reaper HD sets (I'd get both #1 and #2) or The Army Painter Mega Set.

The cost between these two options isnt really a factor, the Army painter does include some decent brushes but I can order those seperately and also plan to order a couple of W/n Series 7 brushes no matter which set I go with.

The big thing about Army Painter is their color matched spray primers which sounds good in theory to me, adn what lmiited reviews I could find on their warpaints seem to be positive. On the other hand I've thought that maybe I could pickup an airbrush for $120-$200 and prime my minis with it and then apply a single color of whatever reaper paint I want over it and overtime it would probably be more cost effective then paying for spray cans.

Any thoughts? comments? suggestions?

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 12:40 PM

I'd probably go with the Reapers. I mean, you already have Reaper paints from the L2PKs, why change horses now?

Edit to add: I'm using Army Painter brushes, but pains from neither company right now. I have no dog in this fight.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 12:48 PM

I wouldn't be swayed by the colored primers. For the most part those are really only good for ... army painting. They are very good for painting vehicles and army painting where the uniform is primarily all the same color (ACW Confederates and Union troops are excellent examples of this). So ultimately it depends on what you are painting. Unless you are going to do more than just prime with (like actually learn to use it) I wouldn't bother with the airbrush either. Again its great if you are going to do a zenithal style primer (black over everything, then white from directly above) but unless you are going to be priming a lot of miniatures at once its not worth the effort. I don't say that lightly either because I use my airbrushes all the time, but if that's your primary purpose then its a lot of money to outlay for something that won't get much use. For that five - ten minis that you are likely to be priming at once either a your regular rattle cans or brush on primer is fine.

I like the Reaper HD paints a lot and I haven't used the Army Painter stuff at all so I can't really guide you there. I suspect they are very similar just because they are both designed to do the same thing. Reaper MPs are designed for a very thin layer style which is not always the best choice for gaming miniatures.
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 01:13 PM

I use a mixture of Vallejo and Citedel. I may have to try Reaper's paints sometime and see what all the fuss is about. :;):

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 01:16 PM

I have used the Army Painter primers often and like that they make base coating easier. But they are hugely expensive, more than three times the price for my usual primer (Duplicolor sandable primer). I use AP's primer for a group of minis that are part of a squad. I have not had problems mixing paint that matches the primer color using MSP.
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 01:20 PM

You are on a Reaper forum, mostly populated by people who are fans of the company. Please remember that we may be biased ^_^

I'd say that you should probably go with Reaper paints, especially if you got the kickstarter or would like to work with the inexpensive Bones line at all. I've been very happy with how the paints work, and Reaper has excellent customer service.

Good luck!

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 01:44 PM

You are on a Reaper forum, mostly populated by people who are fans of the company. Please remember that we may be biased ^_^

I'd say that you should probably go with Reaper paints, especially if you got the kickstarter or would like to work with the inexpensive Bones line at all. I've been very happy with how the paints work, and Reaper has excellent customer service.

Good luck!


We all use different paints to achieve different things. If you have a particular paint you love, you are welcome to tell us about it. My regular travel case (you did see that right?) holds Reaper master paints, Reaper HD paints, P3, Citadel (not my favorite brand by any means), Vallejo (Model Color, Game Color, Model Air, Panzer Aces), Liquitex, Windsor Newton (water soluble oils) and some AK-47 Enamels. All of these paints behave differently and each line makes colors or types that are not available in other lines. An excellent example is the transparent colors available in the Vallejo Model Color line. These are specifically designed to be thinned down for washes and glazes. Everyone should have Vallejo Smoke in their paint box!

So yes, we all tend to be a bit Reaper biased ::D: here, but there's no reason you shouldn't try something else. So get a couple of colors of Reaper HD (there is no white or black in the HD line though) and a couple of Army Painter colors and see what you think. The one piece of advice that I give (as do a number of others) is you shouldn't blindly just go out and pick up an entire paint line. You should definitely pick out a few colors (blue, red, and yellows are good choices because they each behave differently) and give them a try before you drop a ton of money on the entire set. Don't worry we won't hold it against you have you happen to like a different paint line than the rest of us. :devil:
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 01:54 PM

Reaper Paints! And I'm totally unbiased. ^_^
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 02:02 PM

I've just started using Reaper paints with my Ogre WIP, but they seem to have a better consistency from bottle to bottle than the Vallejos I've been using. And I really like the integrated agitators, a little detail that makes a lot of difference.

Although my Vallejos were bought from my not-F not-L GS that was just getting rid of them, so I imagine they're ancient. Some are reeally thick. And I imagine ordering the Reaper paints direct has a lot to do with QC there.

I spray prime with Army Painter, and I also use their matte varnish, love both products.
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 02:07 PM

The Reaper HD paints contain a goodly collection of New Pro Paint (discontinued) colours - though they may not be the exact same formula. However, based on that alone I'd recommend the HD sets.

And I am unbiased, because when I buy paint I buy in big sets - I use Reaper, Partha paints, and Coat D'Arms. The thing with paint brands is that you'll probably use different paints for different things. Generally my figures tend to get a mix of brands, but Reaper is my "most-used".

Clearly any answer will be based mostly on personal opinion and experience, but despite my massive collection of paints (some 400 by now, possibly more) my Reapers almost always deploy first and the others either provide special colours Reaper doesn't have, or brighter colours (Coat D'Arms have extremely powerful pigments), or I use them as additives to the Reapers.

But what it comes down to, in terms of pure use, is that my Reapers get four or five times as much face time as my other brands - so I'd have to recommend the HDs as your first sets.
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 02:16 PM

Reaper Paints! And I'm totally unbiased. ^_^


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I say this as I am just about to order some of my first Reaper paints ever too! I've used Citadel (pre 1995 for the most part I have some of their newer line and have not been impressed), Vallejo, Testors (oh yes my first minis were painted with this horrid Satan-piss), Ral partha (sadly all lost to drying out over the 15 years I had them - couldn't be saved) and others I'm forgetting. I haven't used Army Painter (or Reaper) but have decided to go 'alll in' for Reaper based on the reviews and ease of ordering (and free shipping to Canada is never to be ignored!). I like the idea of those above who suggest ordering a few colours of each and see which ones you like.
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 02:23 PM

When i started painting (a few months ago) i picked up both reaper HD sets 1 and 2... granted I'm a newb, but i haven't really needed anything more aside from some additives (flow aid, matte medium etc) I've been really happy with them. I have also used some of the army painter "primer" because it sounded good, at that time all i had to paint was a warhammer vehicle and thought i would save some time priming it green. It could have been the humidity but I had a bad experience with the primer.. came out sort of chunky and didnt adhere to the model in a smooth way if that makes sense... I definitely followed the instructions as they are a a little different than any old primer...

I would go with the reaper paints.. but thats where all my experience lies..
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 03:00 PM

I only paint with Vallejo and Reaper paints. I'm slowly transitioning my stock of Vallejo out to be replaced by Reaper colors. I have used almost every brand of paint or alternative over the years. I can't tell you anything about chemical composition, color matrices, or any other such details.

Hands down, Reaper paints are my favorite.
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 03:11 PM

+1 to Ape. If you're painting armies for tabletop and want to dip, ArmyPainter. If you're doing individual figures, Reaper et al.

Army Painter DOES have a good Strong Tone Ink I highly recommend for evil armies and mooks. Many GW painters use it now that Devlan Mud's formula has changed:
http://fromthewarp.b...black-wash.html

Paint's only worth buying if you're gonna use it. Since you already have a good supply of paints, buy the occasional additional color until you know what you're doing. Support your FLGS!

Michael's has a 40% off coupon for one item, and CURRENTLY has a 40% off coupon for art supplies. Buy brush soap, matte, flow aid, and mebbe a craft art-quality sable brush.

And since you're a n00b, worry about airbrushes later!

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 03:43 PM

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