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Basing all those Bones Kickstarters

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http://www.p4g.co.uk/us/us_prod_counters.asp

 

I was looking for an alternate for washers and found this site. Might have to give it a go.

 

http://www.edartsupplies.com.au/product_categories/101-counters

 

For the Aussies

 

http://tsyx.en.alibaba.com/product/308519097-210206378/Plastic_discs.html

 

$30 for 30, 000. Hmmm great price but would they ever be used in my lifetime, my children's lifetimes, thier children's or their children's children's?

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How does the thickness of those tiles stack up against 'normal' bases?

 

Here's a shot of the thicknesses in comparison. A normal slotted base, the tile, and my temple ruin base. And yes, the tiles are slightly larger. Not an issue for me as they will all be similarly mounted.

 

base_size_comparison.jpg

 

Here's a showcase of other basing materials I have to hand. I have some larger display pieces including 2 inch tiles, etc. but they are too bulky to transport regularly.

 

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  1. - 1.5 inch Slug
  2. - 1 inch Floor Tile
  3. - 30mm Slotted Round Base
  4. - 25mm Ruined Temple Base
  5. - 40mm square Planked Base
  6. - 20mm? square Slotted Base*
  7. - 25mm square Slotted Base
  8. - Battlemech Hex Base
  9. - piece of Slate
  10. - 1 inch by 2 inch Architect Sample

* only one I have and haven't a clue which figure it came with

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I think there is something wrong with me - the first thing I got excited on after clicking that link was 'OMG Bear Counters! Dinosaur Counters! Wild Aminals!!!'. Then I realised I have absolutely zero use for any of that exciting stuff...

 

But if you're out there making diorama's and want a giant dragon with a bunch of care bears hunting it.....

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Most of those are available on Amazon in the US ... from the same company making the tiles I started this thread about. I can actually see using some of the other styles of "counters" for status effects and such. Especially if you make some small cutouts to place on top of the smaller pieces.

 

These stacking ones can be used in a variety of gaming endeavors. That they come in 10 colors and stack could easily represent on going saves, etc. per figure/monster on the board. I imagine it would get crowded

 

Or add a plastic cutout of flames with some non-melting superglue for flame points. I might have to get busy making some flames out of clay.

 

Of course, if you are into making games (board or other), these are cheap enough to be useful.

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Just bought a bag of these for $8.99 at a local Teacher Supply / Toy Shop. 1" diameter.

 

http://www.learningresources.com/product/two-color+counting+chips.do

http://www.officemax.com/office-supplies/arts-crafts-supplies/educational-aids/learning-aids/product-prod4340672

http://www.discountofficeitems.com/office-supplies/teaching-art/teaching-supplies/teaching-aids/learning-resources-color-counters-math-manipulatives-grades/p51371.html

http://www.amazon.com/Learning-Resources-Two-Color-Counters-Manipulatives/dp/B0017D9BDG/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1362045838&sr=1-2-fkmr0&keywords=counters+25mm

 

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Firm plastic. Each dual coloured counter is about 2/3rds the thickness of a GW slotta base. Best of all, each counter is actually 2 bases. Carefully slide an X-Acto blade between the two colours, and the glue pops..So instead of 200 bases for $9, it is 400 bases for $9. Four hundered very thin bases at at that, a plus for those who don't like plinth style bases that make already heroically oversized minis loom over the terrain.

 

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Also the company makes a faux / play money quarter that is an exact inch across.

 

http://www.learningresources.com/product/play+money+in+bulk-+quarters.do?sortby=ourPicks&

 

Almost as thick as a GW base, the raised lip helps guide drill bits when making leg holes to fit toy bugs. Granted, it has a quarter's ridges and the mold is showing signs of wear, but 100 for $3.50 US, is fairly reasonable IMHO.

 

Blue holes show how i would drill leg holes for a small spider toy...

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I do not advocate harming or defacing any country's currency, but it is worth noting US Pennies are kinda close to being 20mm round bases [19.05 mm] so they would be the right size for a kobold / goblin's base. Also the British two pence coin [25.9MM] is also quite close to being a one inch base [25.4MM]

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While there are lots and lots of options for basing the little guys, what are people using for the bigger minis?

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While there are lots and lots of options for basing the little guys, what are people using for the bigger minis?

[i am a square fan]

 

Fair point and something I am currently contemplating. I think I will end up going for sticking with the paizo base sizing for creature sizes for pathfinder creatures.

 

So:

 

Small : 20mm square - GW style

Medium / character : 25mm square - GW style

Large : 50mm - Square CUT MDF (GW style bases are expensive £1 each!!)

lager sizes will also be MDF and will make them scenic.

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Out of curiosity, are most folks going to keep the broccoli bases in place or remove them. I've re-based so many vinyl figures (heroclix, mage knight, Mechwarrior etc...) that in my experience they only need a very small contact area and a bit of superglue to fix them permanently. I think it's the flexibility of the material that makes the bond so strong and not-brittle.

 

As for the bases themselves, there's lots of good suggstions for basing here. The tiles that the OP found are quite nice, and a great deal to be sure at only 5 cents each. I have tons of bases, already, but maybe I should buy it “Just in case...”. Plastic tokens and washers work well, and some of my friends use those, but I prefer the raised base look.

 

For those who want the slanted or curved sides look on their minis base or need lesser quantities than 400 if you're willing to go with mostly slotted based, than em4 is really hard to beat. I've found them to be cheaper than even the ebay dealers with 20 and 25mm rounds and squares at about 8 cents each!

http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/MINIAATURES_BASES.html

Of course most of them have slots, (easiliy hidden with a bit of plaster...), but they do have a 25mm no-slot with a lip that is great for hiding the brocolli bases.

 

Also, I was surprised to see no one mentioned Proxie models.

http://www.proxiemodels.com/store2/index.php?route=product/category&path=20_27

They sell square and round bases with no slots in all sizes. They are a bit more expensive than EM4 at 9-12 cents each for 20-25mm squares and rounds, but they have a nice rounded edge to them and a lip, some texture and they have the larger sizes for bigger models. Height wise, at 2mm they're in between the regular 3mm height of most slottas and the 1mm (aprox) hight of washers and coins.

I did a review of some of them here:

http://chicagoskirmish.blogspot.com/2012/07/review-bases-from-proxie-models.html

 

I'm probably going to go Proxie since the texture means I can cut off the broccoli, glue them down and not have to add any more basing material. Though I might anyway...

 

Lastly, this seems like it might be a good market for Reaper to get into. I'd definitely buy bases made of Bones, and the opportunities for pre-textured bases are pretty open. Sort of like what Champ does, http://www.champindustries.net/bases.html but in the“bones” material.

 

Or possibly thin sheets of patterned vinyl that could be easily cut up and glued to the top of bases for instant basing? I've done this with vinyl brick and cobblestone mats that are sold for christmas villages and the effect is pretty good, though not quite to scale and I think Reaper could do better.

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Oh wow, that Proxie Model place has a great selection, even the mighty Cthulhu should fit on a 50x100mm base.

 

When I've worked out what bases I'll need, I'll have to put in an order. Hopefully international postage charges aren't to hefty.

 

Thanks for the link.

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The eM-4 square lipped bases could be just about perfect for those who don't want to remove broccoli bases. Simply trim them down so the model fits in the recess of the base then fill in around the rest of the base with green stuff. Simple! ^_^

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Out of curiosity, are most folks going to keep the broccoli bases in place or remove them.

 

Depends on the model. As you say, some of the larger models will need a large enough surface that contacts the new base. All of mine will be re-based, though. I hate the broccoli bases, but that's a conversation for another thread.

 

I have several Hirst Arts molds, and will most likely use the 1" dungeon floor tiles for early every model. For horses, I use 2x 1" flat floor ties glued together and then flock them with kitty litter then add static grass after painting the bases.

 

For Australians, Back-to-base-ix is based out of Australia. Check out their square bases in this link.

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While there are lots and lots of options for basing the little guys, what are people using for the bigger minis?

 

I have several larger options ... 2" or bigger tiles, slate pieces ranging from a half inch to 6 inches long, as well as MDF pieces or scrap plastic. Larger minis are almost always display pieces for me.

 

 

 

Out of curiosity, are most folks going to keep the broccoli bases in place or remove them. I've re-based so many vinyl figures (heroclix, mage knight, Mechwarrior etc...) that in my experience they only need a very small contact area and a bit of superglue to fix them permanently. I think it's the flexibility of the material that makes the bond so strong and not-brittle.

 

For me this boils down to time and effort again. With lots of minis involved, it will be easiest to keep the broccoli bases or at the most minimize them and cover with basing materials. I will prolly go on a case-by-case basis though in the end. If the feet and anything else touching the broccoli base look like they can be quickly removed, then I might go for it.

 

 

Or possibly thin sheets of patterned vinyl that could be easily cut up and glued to the top of bases for instant basing? I've done this with vinyl brick and cobblestone mats that are sold for christmas villages and the effect is pretty good, though not quite to scale and I think Reaper could do better.

 

I've considered this but I would be more likely to use it for a diorama than for individual bases. You can layout a sidewalk easier with this and cut in curves, etc. from a larger sheet. Follow up the edges with more raised individual cobbles. After cutting out the general shape of the full walkway you can then cut the walkway into smaller sections where the cobbles would naturally vary when laid out. I imagine that it would look nice especially if you back fill the cobbles where dirt has collected over the cobbles.

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