Wren

Bones: Preparation (Glues, Putties, Mould Lines, Etc.)

92 posts in this topic

At Hobby Lobby, sanding sticks are with the models (cars, planes etc)

 

Also some have found some flashing is really difficult to see until you get a basecoat/primer on the mini. (Looking at you Great Worm)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here in the UK, Hobby Craft has a reasonable selection of tools in the model section. Today I bought a Draper hobby knife and a set of 5 diamond coated needle files. In the art section they have both cheap and medium priced brushes (but not W&N series 7) also a range of palettes and cutting mats although I bought my cutting mat a Ryman as it was cheaper. Also from Ryman I got Super Glue and Blu Tack.

2 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

FWIW, I've used Craftics #33 "Clear-Thickened Acrylic Cement" to glue Legendary Encounters (and other plastic figures) to acrylic and wooden bases. I can't separate the figures from the bases by just using my hands.

 

This may seem weird and exotic, but this is the glue recommended by Litko for assembly of their acrylic counters. Some folks here might have some on-hand.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So far I have found sanding needles for plastic as the most effective tool for removing mould lines on Bones.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thank you for the advice on the boil and bend method of fixing bent Bones minis. I just used this on the 18 little minis and the base of the male giant from my vampire kickstarter that were bent out of shape, and they're all much better now. One or two didn't come out perfectly straight, but they're really close. If I decide to be a perfectionist before painting them, I can worry about them then, but I've got 250 minis to paint, so I may never get to them.

 

The key seems to be that they soften up and go back to their original mold shape within 3-5 seconds of hitting the hot water. I wasn't even using a real rolling boil, just hot enough for tiny bubbles to start showing up. Then I pulled them out, bent them a tiny bit more if necessary, and dunked them in ice water (with ice, so not just slightly cool, but REALLY cold) for 15-20 seconds, so they'd harden in the proper shape.

 

I was a little worried about that base on the big male giant, and it didn't come out perfectly, but after pressing him down on a paper towel while the base was hot, it kinda flattened enough. After icing it off so it hardened that way, he was able to stand up unassisted, which is a definite improvement. That base is still too narrow for that size body, so he still tips easily, but at least now, the base is flat enough to glue on to an appropriate sized disk of some sort - if I can find one.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thank you for the advice on the boil and bend method of fixing bent Bones minis. I just used this on the 18 little minis and the base of the male giant from my vampire kickstarter that were bent out of shape, and they're all much better now. One or two didn't come out perfectly straight, but they're really close. If I decide to be a perfectionist before painting them, I can worry about them then, but I've got 250 minis to paint, so I may never get to them.

 

The key seems to be that they soften up and go back to their original mold shape within 3-5 seconds of hitting the hot water. I wasn't even using a real rolling boil, just hot enough for tiny bubbles to start showing up. Then I pulled them out, bent them a tiny bit more if necessary, and dunked them in ice water (with ice, so not just slightly cool, but REALLY cold) for 15-20 seconds, so they'd harden in the proper shape.

 

I was a little worried about that base on the big male giant, and it didn't come out perfectly, but after pressing him down on a paper towel while the base was hot, it kinda flattened enough. After icing it off so it hardened that way, he was able to stand up unassisted, which is a definite improvement. That base is still too narrow for that size body, so he still tips easily, but at least now, the base is flat enough to glue on to an appropriate sized disk of some sort - if I can find one.

I was thinking of using metal jar lids for bases for some of the bigger models. Applesauce, pickles, baby food and other groceries can be readily found in my area in glass jars with screw-on metal lids.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Any word on how spray-on sealers affect the plastic? Clear-coat, matte coat, and the like?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I use Army Painter's Anti-Shine spray on as a sealer and have had no problems with using it on Bones.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

Thank you for the advice on the boil and bend method of fixing bent Bones minis. I just used this on the 18 little minis and the base of the male giant from my vampire kickstarter that were bent out of shape, and they're all much better now. One or two didn't come out perfectly straight, but they're really close. If I decide to be a perfectionist before painting them, I can worry about them then, but I've got 250 minis to paint, so I may never get to them.

 

The key seems to be that they soften up and go back to their original mold shape within 3-5 seconds of hitting the hot water. I wasn't even using a real rolling boil, just hot enough for tiny bubbles to start showing up. Then I pulled them out, bent them a tiny bit more if necessary, and dunked them in ice water (with ice, so not just slightly cool, but REALLY cold) for 15-20 seconds, so they'd harden in the proper shape.

 

I was a little worried about that base on the big male giant, and it didn't come out perfectly, but after pressing him down on a paper towel while the base was hot, it kinda flattened enough. After icing it off so it hardened that way, he was able to stand up unassisted, which is a definite improvement. That base is still too narrow for that size body, so he still tips easily, but at least now, the base is flat enough to glue on to an appropriate sized disk of some sort - if I can find one.

I was thinking of using metal jar lids for bases for some of the bigger models. Applesauce, pickles, baby food and other groceries can be readily found in my area in glass jars with screw-on metal lids.

This is a really good idea that I hadn't thought of. I actually just finished a jelly jar yesterday whose lid might be perfect for one of the giants.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

One word of warning regarding what you use to hold onto Bones when dipping in boiling water: don't squeeze to hard, or you will leave a lasting impression. I use a set of surgical forcepts and on one of the kobolds I left the imprint of the clamp on the base.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I just use a $2 sieve from the kitchen store. One with hooks on the end so you can suspend it over the pot without it touching the base.

 

This achieves three things:

  • Removing the Bones from the water is a snap - you just lift the sieve out of the water
  • You can easily heat and reform miniatures in batches. I did about 5-6 at a time with this method.
  • You also keep the Bones off the base of the pot which eliminates any possiblity of them being in contact with hot metal & potentially melting
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for these threads!

My "practice bones" arrived today, and I figured I'd start with Gary the Gargoyle, or whatever the heck his name is. I grabbed two of those big wide coffee mugs (the ones that will hold a can of soup) filled 'em both with water, and stuck one in the microwave. While that was running, I threw a couple of ice cubes in the other one, then lined up my other minis so they could see what would happen to them if they didn't "play ball". A lot of people are saying the mins are popping back to original just from the hot water. I didn't experience that. but once I dipped it in the ice water...boom! It was like a freaking magic trick! I had to resist the urge to do it a couple of more times, jut to watch it happen!

Gary is looking super fierce now with his spread wings, and ready for some paint!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Addendum on methods for removing mould lines:

 

I had read Loim's post on sanding sticks while doing the research for these articles, but figured emory boards and the other sandpaper products I had were close enough for testing. He was kind enough to give some to me and a few other of the artists to try out during ReaperCon. They work really well on Bones. We raided the Denton local Hobby Town and cleared them out. I think I've seen the same product on sale at Hobby Town, but will need to check again. Both the blue (medium) and white (fine) work very well.

 

http://shop.hobbylobby.com/products/medium-plastic-sanding-needles-852467/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By rollcast
      I'm just really proud of this, my first work with an airbrush ever. Maybe it's not the best skill & craft work out there for finishing a figure, but I think I win some points for originality.
       
      What I learned...
      Sometimes, inspiration comes when you think your finished (my son said "I thought you were going for a nebula") Sometimes, your wife says "It needs something iridescent" when you think you're done and she's right. Sparkling Amethyst on the spines Airbrushing means mixing and getting your consistency exactly right - I got lucky on my first try Airbrushing base colors is insanely fast, uses almost no paint and produces something much more even than I could dry-brushing Dry brushing is great for aging/leathering a piece - airbrushing is all about consistency of coverage. Trying to add red-shifted & blue-shifted stars to the star field looked like birthday cake sprinkles. Nature always has better color schemes than I can come up with on my own. I still need to figure out how to layer/thin/build up my colors.  
       
      After initial airbrushing with Violet Shadow and Clear Magenta and maybe a mix with aged bonne for the belly.

       
       
      First pass at layering for the spikes. I've got some learning to do.

       
      Another angle at the "ready for detailing" stage.

       
      My son said "nebula" and I broke out the clear blue and thinned it, but probably not enough.

       
      Here's the "finished" product. I detailed so many stars in the blue areas. Then my wife said "iridescent" and I added Sparkling Amethyst to the spines. It's a great touch and highlights the raised part of the body instead of leaving it the same as the rest.

       
      For scale against another recent work, my lizardman army.

    • By InvisibleThumb
      Stuck my thumb in the box of unpainted bones and pulled out a Kyphryxis.
       

       
      must unbag bag and dry fit, trim mold lines and scrub, but first, the random colors...
       

       
      15, ah what could that mean?  I'll look later.  Let's roll another.
       

       
      seven!  Good.  Nicely spaced numbers.  Will look it up in a minute.  For the third roll...  Well darn gotta wait for the full minute so the time shown is different...  Finally!
       

       
      oof!  One!  Critical miss.  Well, it's probably a boring color at the top of the table.  Let's see what this means:
       
      15: mint green
      7: olive green
      1: fire red 
       
      huh.  Whadaya know.  Time to go see what I've got for colors... (To be continued)
    • By Shin Okada
      There is a page where I can see the detailed images and the names of each miniatures in Bones 4.
      https://www.reapermini.com/Bones4
       
      Is there such a page for Bones 3? I got a lot of Bones 3 kickstarter minis but cannot figure out the name of miniatures in, say, Graveyard Expansion or Stoneskull Expansion.
    • By stormbreach
      Hello again all.  I have to link these photos because Kelpies don't wear clothes down there in the seaweed!  I hope this post works, I've never linked images before.
      I started work on the first one thinking it was just something "throwaway" that I did to shake things up after all the undead I had been painting.  But when I started glazing the first one I was just so happy with how it was going.  Looking back now she actually could have used even more maybe, but I was happy with the work anyway.  The sand base not so much, the paint under the sand was too dark and shows through.
      The second one, leaning further over spreading her arms, was a mixed bag.  The base is much better, the sand looks more like its natural colour since the paint underneath was much lighter.  She had some wicked mold lines on her that were difficult to remove given her pose, both arms forward and the seaweed in between, etc.  One goes right across her chest above her breasts, her arms have several...  Anyway I just tried not to let them show in the pictures.  Her glazing was perhaps a little more rushed so it could have been better, but I was just so excited to post them because I was so happy with the work on the first one.
      Anyway please let me know what you think guys, I think I have done some great learning after attempting my first glaze only three or four miniatures ago.  I am also very impressed with my progress.  I have painted 7 minis since the beginning of August.  That is my most productive two and a half months ever!  I hope I can keep this up, I'm a beginner but have spent a lot on my setup already, I'd like to get enough done to say it was worth it!
       
      https://imgur.com/3bt3d1R
      https://imgur.com/rZnIctw
      https://imgur.com/Td1LWUj
      https://imgur.com/smOjZkq
    • By Lidless Eye
      Just a bunch of Eastern myth themed minis, mostly from Bones III and one Kenku/Tengu Monk from Stonehaven.

      Oh, and some Myconids from Ganesha Games and Bones III plant monsters.  More Mario than myth, I suppose.
       

       
      Oni close-up:
       


      Kitsune close-up:



      I like the male Kitsuine a lot more than I was expecting.  His pose, with all its swagger, adds a lot of character.  I also hadn't noticed the sake cup he was holding until I started painting.
  • Who's Online   39 Members, 3 Anonymous, 0 Guests (See full list)