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As I get my list ready for a certain thing coming this summer, I thought I would take a second to comment on a few issues that have come up in the past...

 

1) Scale: CAV: Strike Operations will be using 1/160 or 10mm as its official scale for miniatures, rounded up a bit to take into account current canon/simplifying scale calculations (1"=15'). Call it Heroic "N" Scale if you like. ;-) So that will keep most minis in scale to 20-35 feet in height. We measure from bottom of foot to top of torso/shoulder, not including any rocket pods when determining what we consider to be its "real" height. This makes the current Bones Dictator B 27' tall as an example and the Khan metal mini 20'.

 

Board Scale will be 1"=15'. This is close enough to 10mm that you wont notice it and makes it easier when building terrain.

 

2) Below is the list of minis that we are using as our base pool. If a mini is not listed here, as far as CAV: SO is concerned its gone, though the name may show up again on a new design. There will not be any redesign, etc. If a mini is redone in Bones, we will fix any scaling issues at that point. The metal version will stay as it is. Some stock numbers may change down the road. The store will be updated soon to reflect the changes.

 

3) Talon Game Minis: When I added these minis to CAV: SO it was done to keep them in production. They all sold well and at the time we had not thought to do the Robot Supply Depot. I realize that some of them did not fit the CAV aesthetic. So...I have culled the figures to the ones that I felt could still be somewhat considered "CAV like". The ones removed will end up in the Depot with the CAV models that did not make the cut. A couple of the remaining ones will have some small changes to get them more in line with the others.

 

LIST OF DOOM (Current as of 4/29/2014)

STOCK NO. NAME

24500 TIAMAT

24501 HALBERD

24503 RAZOR

24504 VOODOO

24507 VALIANT

24508 WEASEL

24511 MANCHESTER

24512 NIGHTSHADE

24513 TOMAHAWK

24514 GNOMIC

24515 KESTRAL

24518 CONCUSSION

24519 SIMBA

24591 VANQUISHER B

24589 OUTLAW

24588 NAGINATA

24585 MALEFACTOR

24586 MANTICORE

24587 MANTIS

24520 SPECTER

24521 DICTATOR A

24522 WRAITH

24523 VANQUISHER A

24524 TYRANT

24525 PUMA

24526 PANTHER

24527 RHINO

24528 STARHAWK V

24530 GLADIATOR

24531 REGENT

24532 CHALLENGER

24533 KNIGHT

24534 INFANTRY, LIGHT

24535 INFANTRY, PA (PANZERFAUST)

24536 INFANTRY, PA

24537 SOVEREIGN

24538 WARLORD

24539 ASSASSIN

24540 THUG

24541 KAHN

24542 CONQUEROR

24543 WHISPER MISSILE SYSTEM

24544 INFANTRY, LIGHT (HVY WEAPONS)

24545 LANCE

24546 INFANTRY, LIGHT (LIGHT MORTAR)

24547 INFANTRY, LIGHT (HVY MORTAR)

24548 POLTERGEIST

24549 WYVERN

24550 TALON

24551 MASTODON

24552 SABRETOOTH

24553 SPARTAN

24554 GHOST

24555 WIGHT

24556 BLITZ

24557 COUGAR

24558 JAGUAR

24559 RAPTOR

24560 BISHOP

24561 ASHIGARU

24562 FALCON

24563 SULTAN

24564 DUELIST

24565 ARCHER

24566 HUNTER

24567 SPIKE

24568 BADGER

24569 BUTCHER

24570 CENTURION

24571 INFANTRY, PA (LIGHT MORTAR)

24572 INFANTRY, PA (HEAVY MORTAR)

24573 DICTATOR B

24574 CHIEFTAIN

24575 DESPOT

24576 RIPPER

24577 SABRE

24578 FLAIL

24580 HORNET

24590 TIGER

 

7120 CRUSADER

7121 KRAKEN

7111 WARHAWK

7114 OVERLORD

7110 MERLIN

7108 EMPEROR

7109 GHAST

7102 DINGO

7098 DRAGOON

7105 NOMAD

7090 WOLF

7093 CENTIPEDE

7092 THUNDERBIRD

7083 RAIDER

7084 RYOSHI

7086 STARHAWK VI

7074 LONGBOW

7081 VINDICATOR

7082 REVENANT

7085 STILETTO

7075 LYNX

7027 KIKYO

7028 TSUISEKI

7034 OGRE

7042 KATANA

7053 FENRI

7070 GHAST

7072 HARPY

7087 RONIN

7088 TSUKAI

7089 WARDEN

7091 WOLVERINE

7094 DRAGONFLY

7095 CHANCELLOR

7096 SCARAB

7097 BANSHEE

24582 KHARL

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So based on your comments can we assume that any vehicles that are done in bones will be produced in true scale? And will we see any tweaks to the original models to make them...more palatable I guess. As the game went on some of the original models showed their age by not looking like they could actually move (Gladiator, Warlord, etc.). Some minor doctoring might be nice.

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To be clear, the figures listed are the ones staying in the game?

-- Correct... this list is the minis we will make official stat cards for and put on the list for conversion to plastic, though 8 of them already are.

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So based on your comments can we assume that any vehicles that are done in bones will be produced in true scale? And will we see any tweaks to the original models to make them...more palatable I guess. As the game went on some of the original models showed their age by not looking like they could actually move (Gladiator, Warlord, etc.). Some minor doctoring might be nice.

-- If a model is made in plastic it will be converted to this scale. Again 1"=15' so you should be able to make pretty easy guesses on the size of a figure if you have a JoR that shows "real" height/length.

 

There will be some tweaks as we go along if possible to "improve" a model. Suggestions are always welcome.

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I realize that some of them did not fit the CAV atheistic.

 

While some aesthetes are atheists and some atheists are aesthetes, this should not be taken to imply that "atheistic" is synonymous with "aesthetic".

 

^_^

 

And I'm looking forward to "a certain thing coming this summer".

 

-- All fixed...damn spellchecker and being in a hurry! Thanks.

CAVBOSS

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Yo Jon,

 

You know this is going to cause consternation of lovers/haters but it might be an idea to publish the list of what's gone since you're obviously going to get 'feedback' on this list so why not 'in for a penny, in for a pound*' maybe... ::D:

 

My 1p** worth.  I think the Emperor mentioned in previous posts (from a year or so ago) could be improved by one very simple strategic change - leave it alone!  Call the new design a Shogun or something.  Leave my Emperor's alone!

 

* Pound - British - proper money - worth more than yours per unit, stiff upper lip, what-ho, etc, etc.  eh what?

** p - UK penny - still worth more than yours - also goes through pocket linings faster!

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Yo Jon,

 

You know this is going to cause consternation of lovers/haters but it might be an idea to publish the list of what's gone since you're obviously going to get 'feedback' on this list so why not 'in for a penny, in for a pound*' maybe... ::D:

 

My 1p** worth.  I think the Emperor mentioned in previous posts (from a year or so ago) could be improved by one very simple strategic change - leave it alone!  Call the new design a Shogun or something.  Leave my Emperor's alone!

 

* Pound - British - proper money - worth more than yours per unit, stiff upper lip, what-ho, etc, etc.  eh what?

** p - UK penny - still worth more than yours - also goes through pocket linings faster!

-- The Emperor is staying as is. The new model is going to be something else. As to what's been deleted, it was some of the Rogue Legion minis, the 4 legged CAVs and some airplanes I believe. I don't have a list right now.

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The new model is going to be something else. As to what's been deleted, it was some of the Rogue Legion minis, the 4 legged CAVs and some airplanes I believe. I don't have a list right now.

 

A pity that, the quadruped CAV's were intresting to me from a design standpoint. A potentially more stable weapons platform that could carry a heavier gun than usual, ala WWII tank destroyers. Probably would need new rules for it though.

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This is totally speculation on my part but I seem to recall some mention about the digital files being lost or corrupted for some of the models so some may have been axed for that reason.

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Looks like the Baron and Czar are off the list. Sad b/c they were awesome models in metal. 

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Looks like the Baron and Czar are off the list. Sad b/c they were awesome models in metal. 

No reason you can't use them if you've got'em.

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Looks like the Baron and Czar are off the list. Sad b/c they were awesome models in metal.

 

No reason you can't use them if you've got'em.
And they'll still be available in the Depot. Rules could be tricksy, though.

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The new model is going to be something else. As to what's been deleted, it was some of the Rogue Legion minis, the 4 legged CAVs and some airplanes I believe. I don't have a list right now.

A pity that, the quadruped CAV's were intresting to me from a design standpoint. A potentially more stable weapons platform that could carry a heavier gun than usual, ala WWII tank destroyers. Probably would need new rules for it though.

 

-- Quad CAVs remain...just not the current designs (other than the Simba).

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