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Can you record it possibly? I don't think I'll be making that one

Don't know how to record it.....

No digital camcorder, not sure if hangouts can do it.....

Someone (Aryanun?) mentioned something that I wrote down, and then tossed the paper....

 

 

Hangouts on Air:

 

https://support.google.com/plus/answer/2553119?hl=en

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Also, it was nice when Willen could step in while you were cleaning between sprays and have some info. You guys made a good team!

 

I think cleaning seems like the biggest barrier to getting into this. I've done a little primer and some zenithal white over black primer, but just when you get in a groove you get taken back out by cleaning the brush.

 

Thanks, I was just trying to help in that way and I am glad I could be there to cover for some silences. Except when knarthex does not use a mask... drives me crazy  :mellow:

 

But are you cleaning because you need to? Sometimes I feel people worry too much and over-clean... like you going all the way to use pink foam and clean the handle when you pick a new color with your brush. A lot of the "quick´" cleaning required for a couple hours of work is just "picking the needle", a backflush and half a cup of cleaner when you can feel it getting jammed.

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Also, it was nice when Willen could step in while you were cleaning between sprays and have some info. You guys made a good team!

 

I think cleaning seems like the biggest barrier to getting into this. I've done a little primer and some zenithal white over black primer, but just when you get in a groove you get taken back out by cleaning the brush.

 

Thanks, I was just trying to help in that way and I am glad I could be there to cover for some silences. Except when knarthex does not use a mask... drives me crazy  :mellow:

 

But are you cleaning because you need to? Sometimes I feel people worry too much and over-clean... like you going all the way to use pink foam and clean the handle when you pick a new color with your brush. A lot of the "quick´" cleaning required for a couple hours of work is just "picking the needle", a backflush and half a cup of cleaner when you can feel it getting jammed.

 

And you did a darn fine job! Going to be here this Friday?

Sorry, not gonna change though....

 

I clean my brush in between colors with a couple cups of fluid, backflush, and needle bump....

Too much?

I don't know.....

I think that is what the directions recommended.....(Need to re read the directions when I get home now....)

 

Hope you'll be there this coming Friday!

I may even remember to plug in the air compressor this time! :blush:

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Bah, I will miss another one.  :D  So, question, do you change your PSI at all?  Run it 18ish or higher?

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The Badger dude said you should never need to break down your airbrush on a regular basis if you run cleaner through it between colors (or when you've been running the same color for a while). I'm pretty much sticking to his information, I took pretty extensive notes because he covered a lot of ground.

 

And yes. Mask. Your cleaner is ammonia-based. You're breathing atomized ammonia. I could hear you clearing your throat when you were demonstrating your cleaning jar, that's the ammonia attacking the tissues of your respiratory system.

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Instructions... what are those? Paper leaflets keep being forgotten in my stuff's boxes, it's annoying.

 

For me, for an in-between-colors clean that much is excessive George. But like I said, I mix in the cup and thus have a more "organic" method of airbrushing if you will. Kinda like with my brush, I don't necessarily "clean" it between colors; sometimes I am doing blue and want to go light and pick up a white without removing the blue...

 

About the mask, I know the extractor is good too... but after this year plus airbrushing I got used to my mask like my car's seatbelt. I can't imagine working (or driving) without it.

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I was definitely considering mixing in the cup to work up the value range like that. Start with a shadow color and slowly mix in the mid and high colors as I spray.

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I was definitely considering mixing in the cup to work up the value range like that. Start with a shadow color and slowly mix in the mid and high colors as I spray.

 

I mentioned it, I was watching spanish painter Banshee do his work on the airbrush, and he not only mixes on the cup, but also evaluates color... for example, he mixed a skin tone, and then decided wanted to desaturate it a notch for shadows, so added dark red AND dark green to the mix... then added fluo orange in and created a luminous transition... again, the feeling is more like a "dirty pallet", some of us like the chaos, some others don't.

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What cleaner do you all use?  I break mine down after every use, and I would LOVE not doing that.

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What cleaner do you all use?  I break mine down after every use, and I would LOVE not doing that.

 

For quick cleaning, our local Windex variant (no ammonia - banned here). Also Iwata airbrush cleaner, but that is not really effective in my opinion. If I get a lot of old buildup that I cannot shake with window cleaner, I use a few drops of nail polish remover, clean it up, shoot it out into the sealed jar.

 

Always start the process with water, always end it with water as well. The last water spray is useful for me to test the spray pattern and notice any major clogs remaining, if any.

 

I was curious about the alcohol method George used. I don't use cleaner when I backflush (I need to try it) but I never put it back through the nozzle; when I backflush I pour it into my cleaning cups to the side, clean the cup with paper towel, then proceed with more cleaning.

 

Another thing, if you are using gloves use nitrile ones. Regular latex gloves can be damaged with acetone and alcohol solvents and may even melt them into your skin. For a few more cents nitrile gloves are hipoallergenic, reusable and more durable overall.

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Yeah, I use the one Aaron Lovejoy taught (90% water, 10% isopropyl alcohol).  Also, to get paint off and stuff, Createx cleaner, but it is rough.  I forgot I left my airbrush in it overnight once and it ate my pretty chrome off my airbrush. :(

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What cleaner do you all use?  I break mine down after every use, and I would LOVE not doing that.

 

I was curious about the alcohol method George used. I don't use cleaner when I backflush (I need to try it) but I never put it back through the nozzle; when I backflush I pour it into my cleaning cups to the side, clean the cup with paper towel, then proceed with more cleaning.

I use alcohol because it evaporates faster than water, so the brush is ready that much faster for the next color....

Don't know if it is really true or not when using a compressed air device, but that is my reasoning....

 

Also, I have never had a clog with my airbrush....

I have had dry tip one time, so maybe the above statement is incorrect....

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Hehehe I have had serious clogs, especially when mixing thinners with paints and then getting it clumped! For Science!

 

This window cleaner I use is basically water, isopropyl and fragance. I wonder if 10% alcohol would be stronger, however...

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