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Making them available in Bones would also be useful for people who play games like Frostgrave and Dragon Rampant, especially Dragon Rampant since units are generally six or 12 models each. So there's appeal outside of Warlord for the figures.

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I'll jump back in.

 

As a Warlord collector and skirmisher since its inception, I first collected a couple all-metal armies that were expensive (for me), and played exclusive with those. Until Bones came out. Then I used the army creator (now removed from website) to quickly and specifically build other armies that could be created out of Bones only - sometimes using a Bones proxy for a Warlord miniature (like a Bones Dragon for the Elves warlord dragon, Argerian). I then supported the second kickstarter for Bones specifically as a Warlord enthusiast. Since then, I have four more armies and close to a couple hundred more miniatures gathered over the past few years. Super fun.

I bring this up because even the current queue of Warlords minis available in Bones can allow one to easily and affordably collect a couple armies and play casually, even with no big scene out there.

 

I hope one day there is enough continued interest for Bones/Warlord cross pollination, and a return of the army creator, which may build larger local interest, etc.

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20 minutes ago, Memphisto said:

I'll jump back in.

 

As a Warlord collector and skirmisher since its inception, I first collected a couple all-metal armies that were expensive (for me), and played exclusive with those. Until Bones came out. Then I used the army creator (now removed from website) to quickly and specifically build other armies that could be created out of Bones only - sometimes using a Bones proxy for a Warlord miniature (like a Bones Dragon for the Elves warlord dragon, Argerian). I then supported the second kickstarter for Bones specifically as a Warlord enthusiast. Since then, I have four more armies and close to a couple hundred more miniatures gathered over the past few years. Super fun.

I bring this up because even the current queue of Warlords minis available in Bones can allow one to easily and affordably collect a couple armies and play casually, even with no big scene out there.

 

I hope one day there is enough continued interest for Bones/Warlord cross pollination, and a return of the army creator, which may build larger local interest, etc.

 

Which armies are easiest to put together using Bones models?  [Guessing Reven, Crusaders, Kargir...?]

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53 minutes ago, TGP said:

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Which armies are easiest to put together using Bones models?  [Guessing Reven, Crusaders, Kargir...?]

I've built Reven, Elves, Crusaders. Strong variety exists for Reven especially, imo. I proxy some- like Bones Spirit of the Forest for Elves Mossbreard.

 

Also supplement existing metal warbands (nefsokar, darkspawn and overlords) with Bones sculpts for those bands- most recently an Aspect of Sekhmet.

 

i have not looked at Kargir but only because I only have core 2nd edition rules. 

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Kargir has significant bones forces, since most of Tre's black orcs are in bones. As well as the giant and  some of the gnolls. Plenty of goblin choices to proxy in as well.

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I've pondered that it would be great for them to pick two factions that have models that are in demand by roleplayers as well and run Bones 4 around it.  Do what they did with Cav - put out the books (as they are) and the core models for two factions into the base, then have the larger stretch goal unlocks be complete armies for other factions (again, choosing those that work well for roleplaying as well.)

 

I also love Warlord. I have the 2nd edition books, all but one of the 1st, plus I scored myself an unopened copy of Dark Heaven: Apocalypse a couple of years ago (which was sort of a predecessor to Warlord.)  I'd love to see it catch on again, and given that the biggest barrier to entry for wargames is buying a starting army, giving people armies right from the get-go of affordable Bones could be a real shot in the arm for the franchise.

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 I love the Warlord minis purely for painting!

 

They are great models I use a lot of them in my Lost World for example.

*** Which means I  painted a few already but have heaps of unpainted ones waiting***

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I've been leading a local group of players (I deem the only one existing in Russia) since 2007, making yearly campaigns and leagues of up to 10 participants and 30+ games per season. It appears to be extremely difficult to "recruit" new players, all those existing being close friends of mine, who came from other wargames like WHFB. The WHFB community is divided now with many people completely dropping the system, but that barely helps to attract them to Warlord, as they got used to a well supported wargame and more willingly migrate to mainstream skirmish systems or even historics.

 

From my point of view the Warlord is an extremely well balanced and diverse game. I consider the underdevelopment of several factions from the Savage North and the lack of scenarios to be the only flaws. The latter we compensated with 10 scenarios of our own invention, as well as added a new level of diversity in the form of a campaign engine (I've posted it in the Rules sub-forum). For the next season we plan to expand this engine even more, implementing a webapp to generate pairings for us and to handle player statistics. It might then include a campaign map in graphics with each player's actions designated and a personal account for each one accordingly, if time permits.

 

I've recenly finished my 1500pts Tembrithil project, the wood elves being my 3rd army and the most beautiful one, as a result of a much time spent to painting and the usage of Microart forest bases. They are great in play as well, clouded only by the limited choice the armylist itself.

 

If Reaper once decides to turn its attention to this system again, we shall eagerly offer our service as playtesters. :)

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The beauty of this game is that the figures do not get replaced by a newer edition. The bases remain square or rectangle. So, what was painted more than a decade ago can still be used. Not every good for the business point of view and I kind of understand why the company is not promoting the game if they are already selling well on their figures. There is no need for them to put in more resources to promote more sale. On the other hand, if I am the CEO, I would definitely take the opportunity to make a dent in the gaming world when WHFB got changed. For the long run, it is a worthwhile gamble.

The loss of the online army builder is a great disappointment. That is the main reason why I kept coming back to this site to make out various theme list for fun.

I shall fully support of this game if one day this company decides to promote it.

For your information, my profile picture is actually taken from the figure I painted.

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On 3/9/2017 at 7:20 AM, lowlylowlycook said:

I think that a huge problem is that the gaming market in general is pretty crowded.  It would take a pretty big push to get Warlord going again and a lot of effort to keep it going.  Perhaps the best chance would be spinning the game off like they did with CAV.   Still the best chance might not be that high.

 

I agree that Bones models would be interesting.  

 

 

Spinning Warlord off like CAV would probably be the death knell to any future the game might still have (imho)... I was an ardent CAV supporter back in the day, but have zero desire to get involved in the new CAV as it is too different from the old fun game that I still occasionally get a chance to play.

 

I am not really a huge Bones fan either, except for some of the larger models, but being able to buy an Army Box (7-9 minis) for $20 might make me think twice about that position again.

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I wasn't a fan of bones for Warlord either until recently when I put my painted Kargir army in a bag with cards & dice bag and didn't have to worry about the paint jobs.

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Humansquish,

I am still getting familiar with the Bones product, that said I do like the larger figures like dragons well enough (though I would still love to replace my Kaladrax with a real metal model - I just like the "heft" and "feel" of the large metal model) anyway... with regards to your post above, doesn't the bones material "flex" a bit, cracking or chipping the paint/sealer on your minis when they are handled like that?

I am an old school lead/pewter/white metal kind of guy and just trying to understand why "plastic" seems to be gaining so much popularity in miniatures (besides cost)... The last "plastic" soldiers I had were the green army type and I personally have no desire to collect those. (No offense to anyone who might - they're just not my cup of tea.)

Thanks in advance for the info.

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Kaladrax in metal would move past "heft" right on to "hernia".

 

There are pluses and minuses to every material but Bones minis can withstand damage far beyond what metal, hard plastic or resin minis could handle.

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Just curious, as I have several Warlord figures that I have been working on for Frostgrave.  What is the average game time on a Warlord game?  I have glanced at it, but didn't really try to find out a lot since I quickly read that it was unsupported.  Reading through this thread, a stable game that isn't changing all the time is actually a good thing.  I really like a lot of the models and having multiple uses for them would be kinda cool (though, then I would have to paint multiples for round and square bases or choose before I finish basing some).  

 

Also, does anyone play at ReaperCon so I could see some games?  I know I won't be able to field any kind of army by then, but seeing it in action would be very beneficial.

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21 hours ago, Grayfax said:

Just curious, as I have several Warlord figures that I have been working on for Frostgrave.  What is the average game time on a Warlord game?  I have glanced at it, but didn't really try to find out a lot since I quickly read that it was unsupported.  Reading through this thread, a stable game that isn't changing all the time is actually a good thing.  I really like a lot of the models and having multiple uses for them would be kinda cool (though, then I would have to paint multiples for round and square bases or choose before I finish basing some).  

 

Also, does anyone play at ReaperCon so I could see some games?  I know I won't be able to field any kind of army by then, but seeing it in action would be very beneficial.

 

I play 1000pt games, and those take around 2-3 hours played leisurely. If you have a few armies and a couple friends who like table top war games, it's a great well-balanced game. I also like the d10 mechanic better than d6 since the outcomes feel less random and luck based.

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