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Mori Practices Sculpting!

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3 hours ago, Speak_Centurion said:

Damn it! How is Mori so good at sculpting the pelvis so soon? I am really, really struggling with the pelvis and thighs.

 

Pelvises suck! 2-D representations never look like they should make a 3-D object.  I hate pelvises.

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16 minutes ago, TaleSpinner said:

 

Pelvises suck! 2-D representations never look like they should make a 3-D object.  I hate pelvises.


I just this afternoon received a resin Shiraki Meiko figurine kit (I'd buy the genuine PVC one, but it's OOP and prices have gone bananas) which I'm finding quite useful in it's unassembled form because the torso piece gives me a really good cross-section view of the pelvis and hips, and being able to hold it in my hand I get a much better feel for the contours and how much bulk there should be.

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I do like the pelvis, it's such a funny shape. It makes like a weird, rounded, trapezoid shape with the sides pointing down and in. This is how I did the first part of them, if this helps. Is...that too bold and unhelpful instead? :ik_oops: 

 

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I decided that was too unhelpful, so I'm taking some photos as I make the hips this time. :D

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16 hours ago, Morihalda said:

I decided that was too unhelpful, so I'm taking some photos as I make the hips this time. :D

Actually, that little sketch was helpful. Thanks Mori.

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Okay! I found learning anatomy first to be incredibly helpful, and I still sculpt with 3 books open for reference! I made yesterday Pelvis Day, gathering up my notes for a quick but possibly too lengthy post.

 

I also took some photos of my sketches from back when I was teaching myself anatomy. I hope this helps everyone more than my scribble. ^_^ 

 

The top one may be too technical, but the bottom right drawing is the simplest. The part that helped me the most was realizing that the top arc of the pelvis (iliac crest) curves around and angles down. The bit at the end that sticks out (ASIS on my notes) is a good starting point to build the muscles.

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Ignore the messed up spine, this was taken at my physical therapist's office.

That curving down and around of the crest is easier to see with multiple views.

So you've got inside body parts inside your pelvis, and then the external oblique muscles wrap around the body, sitting on top and following the iliac crest.

The obliques make that bump above your hips.

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The curves are different on classical male bodies, though! Females usually have some fat pads there, softening the edges. Check out that first photoset, right section again.

 

I started my current minis like this - big hips on one, little hips on the other. I've already filled in that "gap" between the femur and outer part of the hip on the narrow one. The paper scale behind looks way off - it's all bent since I was trying to match the hips for the photo.

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However, Andy literally made a pelvis for his minis when he was underpinning, which I thought was really cool!! Check it out here:

 

.... Oh boy, I rambled a lot.

 

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2 hours ago, Morihalda said:

I made yesterday Pelvis Day

 

 

Geez, give us some notice next time. I didn't get a cake or anything.

 

::D:

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34 minutes ago, Pezler the Polychromatic said:

Does staring at butts all day take its toll?

 

Depends on the butts. The time I used myself as a model really sucked.

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On 7/19/2017 at 2:39 PM, TaleSpinner said:

 

Pelvises suck! 2-D representations never look like they should make a 3-D object.  I hate pelvises.

Just remember, the pelvis is your friend.  It is a lovely bucket of bone and muscle that holds in the guts and keeps them from spilling down between the legs!

Doing great Mori!!!  I love your method!

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Thanks, Corporea! :wub: 

 

1 hour ago, Pezler the Polychromatic said:

Does staring at butts all day take its toll?

 

It does not! I do go through some silly strings of image searches though. I've learned that somewhat close reference is better than no reference at all. 

Add "Reference," "Anatomy," or "Stock" to your searches, otherwise they get weird fast. Well, even stock photos get odd....

I'm sure today google thought I was really into feet. I saved a lot of feet and feet wearing flats photos today. :lol: 

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That is definitely a dude pelvis. Have you ever seen a male and female pelvis side by side? Way interesting!

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38 minutes ago, Pingo said:

That is definitely a dude pelvis. Have you ever seen a male and female pelvis side by side? Way interesting!

 

Oooh, did I goof somewhere? Sorry! I thought the bone one was a boy. The cropped photo is super definitely female, I had to remove some... bits.

 

It's fun/encouraging/discouraging looking at old art. I can see things wrong with the anatomy I was drawing back in January! From a book!!

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9 hours ago, Morihalda said:

 

Oooh, did I goof somewhere? Sorry! I thought the bone one was a boy. The cropped photo is super definitely female, I had to remove some... bits.

 

It's fun/encouraging/discouraging looking at old art. I can see things wrong with the anatomy I was drawing back in January! From a book!!

 

Oh poot, no, I meant the bone one.  No criticism was intended, although now I look I see how unclear my post was.  Sorry.

 

Nah, this is all looking great!

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I didn't sculpt much this weekend, as it was my other half's birthday. We had lots of friend time and board games instead! ^_^

 

I am still trying to scramble up some energy, I've been in a weird slump the last couple weeks with little bursts of energy here and there.

It's probably something about being unemployed, who would have guessed. <_<

 

It took a better part of a day to sculpt 3 shoes. And I'm still not happy with them. Ridiculous!

You can see the little knee bones on the bottom sculpt - I sculpted those in while doing the underpinning.

The knee on the leg with the boot is too short, I had to bring that up a teeny bit when I added the muscles.

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Legs Progression:
- Legs were too close, had to space them out and tore the abdomen in half
- Then the knee was too low. The knee bone forms a straight line with your shin. It's easier to picture the shin and knee as one piece moving together, separately from the thigh.
- Then the butt was crooked. <_< 
- Finally, a smoothed leg! 
- Kidding. There was a piece of freaking dust or dandruff thingy.... I had to pick that out.
- Legs!!

- I added in some putty between the legs for the skirt and was promptly called away.... I should have pulled the putty off but I thought I would get back in time. I gotta smooth that out now!

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You see so many things when it's blown up a million times! I need to find my visor if I want to fix those shoes!

 

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