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More favorite MSP paint: Linen White. It makes great highest-highlights on yellows and greens, and a great near-peak for whites. Ghost White is the go-to for highest highlight on blues. 

 

Least favorite triad: Tanned Skin. The colors are fine to use, but the triad isn't very triad-like. The shadow and the base color are nearly identical, and the highlight isn't as far off the base as I'd prefer. Just snag Tanned Skin then use the Fair or Golden triad for the bright end, and the Dark triad for the shadow end. 

 

@Valthorn_Illian - remind me to message pics after next round of painting. I'm sharing stuff just not super publicly on that specific WIP. 

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On 11/20/2017 at 6:24 AM, Gadgetman! said:

Deadrose Red isn't that an old ProPaint?

(discontinued eons ago, or something like that)

 

 

OOps, posted in the wrong place

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22 hours ago, Cyradis said:

 

Least favorite triad: Tanned Skin. The colors are fine to use, but the triad isn't very triad-like. The shadow and the base color are nearly identical, and the highlight isn't as far off the base as I'd prefer. Just snag Tanned Skin then use the Fair or Golden triad for the bright end, and the Dark triad for the shadow end. 

 

I've noticed the same issue with the tanned skin triad. Sadly, its the one skin triad that I have more than one paint of. Fortunately I have enough assorted paints right now that I can usually make skin work ok-ish, but I agree that the tanned skin might not be the best place for a newbie to start.

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22 hours ago, Cyradis said:

More favorite MSP paint: Linen White. It makes great highest-highlights on yellows and greens, and a great near-peak for whites. Ghost White is the go-to for highest highlight on blues. 

 

Least favorite triad: Tanned Skin. The colors are fine to use, but the triad isn't very triad-like. The shadow and the base color are nearly identical, and the highlight isn't as far off the base as I'd prefer. Just snag Tanned Skin then use the Fair or Golden triad for the bright end, and the Dark triad for the shadow end. 

 

@Valthorn_Illian - remind me to message pics after next round of painting. I'm sharing stuff just not super publicly on that specific WIP. 

 

14 minutes ago, Gargs said:

 

I've noticed the same issue with the tanned skin triad. Sadly, its the one skin triad that I have more than one paint of. Fortunately I have enough assorted paints right now that I can usually make skin work ok-ish, but I agree that the tanned skin might not be the best place for a newbie to start.

 

Dark Skin to Tanned Skin to Fair Skin triads make quite a nice pre-mixed blending combination. The steps are small enough that not much mixing is necessary and the full range is fine for most things. (You do want to add a bit of some sort of red at some point, though, as otherwise it's a bit dead looking.) Which is to say that I basically agree that as a triad, the colors are too close, but as a nonad*, it works pretty well.

 

* "Nonad" really is a word, btw, though Google would like to tell me about "nomads". :poke:

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I find that I typically use the Rosy Skin triad as an additive to almost all the other skin tones to keep a little red in them.

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As Cyradis mentioned, the dark elf skin triad is nowadays one of my go-to's. It's very good to help highlight black but I've found myself using them when I'm doing washes of all types. 

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Hi everyone, I've been lurking this thread for the last few days as I prepare to set myself up with a good base paint kit and have a question about some of the suggestions here. I'm looking to pick up the base 54 colors (more than enough for me at this point) but I see that it stops just short of a number of the suggestions people have here. Does anyone have recommendations for good colors to swap out to get the most out of that basic kit?

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I'm surprised that Oiled Leather has not shown up.  Beside leather I use this as shadow on blond hair.

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3 hours ago, Schirf said:

Hi everyone, I've been lurking this thread for the last few days as I prepare to set myself up with a good base paint kit and have a question about some of the suggestions here. I'm looking to pick up the base 54 colors (more than enough for me at this point) but I see that it stops just short of a number of the suggestions people have here. Does anyone have recommendations for good colors to swap out to get the most out of that basic kit?

 

Honestly, if you are just starting out, the base set of 54 you are selecting is likely to be more than enough. As for what to swap out, that really depends on what you want to paint, what colors you want to paint them, etc. My recommendation (and I am anything but an expert) would be to either a) just go with the base set that you were already looking at, or b) if you see a particular color that strikes your fancy, grab that and just pick something to remove that looks as though you already have something close to. A lot of the colors, even throughout the HD line, have fairly close cousins so to speak in the line already. Those that don't can usually be mixed to something close enough with the other colors you already have. Whites and Blacks can be good for mixing of course as it will usually (not always) just give you a lighter or darker shade of the base color. Once you start painting, you'll get a feel for the types of things you like to paint, as well as the colors that you like to use.

 

In all honesty, the only real reason we need all these colors anyway is so that we can save time by not having to mix up the colors we want. You can take about 5-8 main colors and with those mix up just about any color you want, it just takes a lot more time and uses more paint per mixed color. But bottom line is, think about what you are going to be painting and go from there. Are you going to be painting armies for Warmachine or Warhammer? If so, pick a color scheme and use that as your base. Planning on painting figures of African people? Then you'll likely want some colors to use for darker skin tones. Just wanting to paint a bunch of robots? Then you can use pretty much anything, but may also want to pick up some of the metallic colors. 

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+1 LTPKs and Flesh Triads. 

 

I don't get much use out of a paint if I don't know how to use it. IMO, the LTPK instructions and the "pairing" of the triad colors are as important than the paints themselves. Plenty of companies make similar colored paints as Reaper, but the triads make it *much* easier to know how to use these paints.

5 hours ago, Schirf said:

Hi everyone, I've been lurking this thread for the last few days as I prepare to set myself up with a good base paint kit and have a question about some of the suggestions here. I'm looking to pick up the base 54 colors (more than enough for me at this point) but I see that it stops just short of a number of the suggestions people have here. Does anyone have recommendations for good colors to swap out to get the most out of that basic kit?

 

If you're new to painting, pick up the LTPK's and one or two flesh triads from the Reaper website. The Tanned Skin triad is good for generic fantasy adventurers. This makes a perfectly fine starter set of paints and, at $80, you get the promotional miniatures. Once you become familiar with painting and start painting your miniatures, you will start to know what colors you will want to add to your paint collection. Also, many KS and sales let you pick up paints at a discount. Personally, I think it's a good idea to keep trying new paints to find out how different paints behave. Two paints that have similar colors may have different consistencies or other properties making one easier to use than another for a different painting purpose.

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Thanks for the quick replies! I suspected that would be the general reply, but figured it was worth a shot. With some of the colors it can be a little challenging telling what the differences are without seeing them in person.

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14 hours ago, Schirf said:

Thanks for the quick replies! I suspected that would be the general reply, but figured it was worth a shot. With some of the colors it can be a little challenging telling what the differences are without seeing them in person.

 

Yeah, and to make it even more confusing, some of the colors probably look different on your monitor than on mine. The real key though is to just paint. Try different colors to see how they look. Try different techniques, etc. Sometimes it will come out horrible. Sometimes it will come out ok. Sometimes it will come out great! The bottom line is you never really know until you try. There are some yellows that a lot of people absolutely swear by, but I generally dislike the color yellow, so its a bit of a stumbling block for me. Not because I don't understand what to do with the color (although that's a fair argument at this point with me and just about any color) but rather because even if I do a great job with the color, I am still not likely to really enjoy the result. 

 

I will say though that I'll give another vote to the Learn to Paint Kits. The paints alone get you your value in the kit. Then on top of that you get brushes, three minis and really good instructions in each kit. Bones minis are also great for new painters like myself because you don't feel all that bad if a $3 mini ends up not looking all that great as opposed to the $50+ warjack from a table top wargame or something similar.

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FWIW, I don't find the MSP core set to be all that useful as a set. The paints chosen for the LTPKs are much better as a basic set of paints, and the HD + Bones paints may well be better for a beginning painter than MSP in many cases.

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