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33 minutes ago, Rat13 said:

 

At this point I'm still going to this game but I'm just going to verify what this game is. I'm convinced this is a DM that wants to tell a very specific story and is using living people as his pawns.

 

It certainly sounds like it.

 

There is a style of GMing that my circle calls “Someone’s getting footie-prints all over my desert!” after a classic Yosemite Sam exclamation.

 

It’s a description of when the GM is so enamored of their world and so inflexible about it that they resent any perturbation the players’ actions may cause in it.  As you say, they want to tell one very specific story using the players as, at best, pawns (at the very least a captive audience).

 

Other people have described games where legendary characters wander through and the players can’t interact with them in any way deeper than passive admiration. Although that’s no fun (and usually arises from a GM who adores the characters and doesn’t understand why anyone wouldn’t want to just bask in their awesomeness), that seems a little different from this situation.

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Dr.Bedlam said:

...beware ANY DM who wants to arrange an in game love affair.

Just sayin'.

 

32 minutes ago, Rat13 said:

It's creepy right? I know we're married in real life but come on man have some decency. 

 

One of my PCs once had a relationship with another PC. It grew organically and worked well.  It was a fairy-tale-themed game run by a trusted and experienced GM, and the other player was also a trusted friend. My husband played a different character in the game and was amused by the whole thing.

 

But wow, PC relationships in rpgs are like polyamory. Everyone has to be on board and in agreement or things will get horrible fast.

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It's sounding to me like this guy is very new at being a GM and doesn't quite understand his role and how RPGs work.  He's reading the books and lighting up at every cool power he finds for you to use.  I have to wonder what happened with his previous group. 

 

At least, after going to the first session, if it doesn't work out you can honestly tell him face to face that it isn't going to work for you. 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Rat13 said:

He is new to me. He has supposedly run campaigns before but his knowledge seems so spotty I'm questioning that.

 

Were his previous campaigns 5e, or another system? That could explain his lack of knowledge about the various backgrounds available in the PHB. Now, if he's just straight up ignorant of what "soldier" means, then there's something else wrong entirely. 

 

2 hours ago, buglips*the*goblin said:

 

I played in the Realms some ten years, and even without things like this I grew to despise that place.  But, in the interests of honesty, I have never cared much for pre-packaged settings or modules anyway.  Modules, at least of the 1e-2e variety, have been pretty shoddy things as a whole - and campaign worlds always stuffed full of "legendary" characters from someone else's game that I didn't care about.  

 

What always interested me was having the tools to do your own thing, so playing somebody else's vision of the game from Official Merchandise was always an exercise in the combined horror of "disappointing waste of time" and its more evil counterpart "inappropriate humour that's lame".  

 

See, I always tried to avoid the Realms because of how so many people seem to be attached to them so much. If you try to use an existing character they'll sit there and go "That's nothing like what Elminster would do." or "Drizzt would never leave people behind, no matter how bad a situation is!" They don't let you change the setting to fit your game. If you want a plague to rip through Neverwinter, they'll scream about how this church or that wizard would put a stop to it before it even started.

 

I like the idea of premade settings. It's nice to be able to basically pick up a ready-made atlas, theology lesson, and history book so that you can drop your characters in and go from there. It cuts down on what could easily be years of time spent world building, gives everyone a grasp of the world so that there's a basic understanding without having to stop all the time to explain things, and it just let's you get rolling faster. It just becomes a problem when people get invested in the state of the setting through books, movies, whatever, and they don't want to let you change things that they see as set in stone.

 

Which is why I like Planescape. Here's a plane that's a giant city, with all sorts of portals to every other plane of existence. You've got a headquarters here. There's some stuff going on in this city, but the only things you really need to know are that you don't try to bring gods here, and that you don't piss off the Lady of Pain. The Lady runs this place, and the quickest way to piss her off is to try and bring your deity here.

 

Oh, look at that. Your friend was murdered and it's looking like it was some wizard from Grayhawk. Why don't you go there for a few sessions, then chase him back to Sigil, then to the Plane of Air, and oops! You just stumbled into a conspiracy being started by an ancient Djinn who's trying to kill a god...

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Honestly at this point I'm taking my fun where I can find it. He has been "chatting" me up most of the day and around noon I just got fed up. Now I'm just screwing with him a little.

 

You want to be an underpowered elderly human in a group of monsters? Yeah. Okay then why are you a chosen of the emperor? Because I'm not a likely person to be chosen; like why him? Apparently that wasn't a good answer.

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1 hour ago, Inarah said:

At least, after going to the first session, if it doesn't work out you can honestly tell him face to face that it isn't going to work for you. 

 

 

 

This is what I'd do. At least you can say your tried it.

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12 hours ago, Pingo said:

 

 

One of my PCs once had a relationship with another PC. It grew organically and worked well.  It was a fairy-tale-themed game run by a trusted and experienced GM, and the other player was also a trusted friend. My husband played a different character in the game and was amused by the whole thing.

 

But wow, PC relationships in rpgs are like polyamory. Everyone has to be on board and in agreement or things will get horrible fast.

Yeah, romance in RPGs is tricky. We usually discuss it if we feel like our characters would develop that way. Mostly our adventures are just comedy, because of our own failings (and the dice) :lol:

 

Good luck to you @Rat13 I hope you can have some fun.

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While canned fun is fun, it's not what I meant.
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I'm on my phone so I can't quote.

But I'm lucky enough to have no players who read forgotten realms books, expect my boyfriend who forgets everything he reads. 

I like how much general lore and world building went into this thing, but I have no hesitations changing stuff. Especially world changing events. Spell plague got shortened to a few months, since it plays no role in my campaign and it would have been silly if all characters basically grew up during it. Some gods are still alive in my version of the realms who aren't in the canon version.

And of course the cities PCs come from get more tailored to their needs. 

It just helps a ton to have a rich world hinted behind the campaign.

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20 hours ago, TheAuldGrump said:

 

I fully intend to flirt like crazy with my wife when/if we get to play in a game together. ::P:

 

The Auld Grump - bonus points if we can make the GM look sick to his stomach!

Make her play a male character, possibly an elf, and you play a male ogre...

 

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Character is supposedly finished. That is until the DM has another idea. Instead of worrying about the magic items in a game I'm probably only going to once I  just took the goggles of night and left it at that.

 

Apparently I still needed my character defining magical item. I told the DM multiple times that I wasn't going to worry about that because there wasn't anything I actually wanted. I fully admit I had already reached the point where I was trolling him a little. So he came up with something instead, I backed away from the situation and he did what he'd been doing the whole time, he created my chatacter.

 

So apparently since I'm a bartender I'm some kind of spy for the emperor. Which I'm good at because I'm old and nobody worries about old people. The best part is I didn't chose a magical weapon, so my character transformed from an old bartender into Varys the Spider. Yep, apparently I have a whole bunch of contacts. 

 

He's adapting the Shadowrun contacts system, and since I didn't take a weapon he boosted my starting points for contacts. Honestly at this point there was no way I was reading five plus pages to understand the system and get the best bang for my buck. What I ended up doing was buying a boat load of low level contacts that if I'm understanding the description right don't do anything.

 

That catches everyone up from last night. I haven't heard from him today at all and I'm hopeful I won't have to talk with him or tweek the character anymore. We're still days away from the actual game though so who knows. Honestly I'm looking forward to going to my AL group this weekend and get their thoughts on this weird DM adventure. 

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There's folks out there who'd pay for good slash fiction about an elf and an ogre gettin' it together. After I discovered there's elf porn fiction available on Amazon, nothing surprises me any more.

That being said, I find this DM's habit of changing things left and right to be more than a little disturbing. Guys like that tend to yank the backstory out from under you when you aren't looking, because they saw something new and thought "Ooo, shiny!"

 

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4 hours ago, Gadgetman! said:

Make her play a male character, possibly an elf, and you play a male ogre...

 

Nah - the flirting is going to be the main point - annoying the GM would just be a bonus feature. ::P:

 

Seriously - we have never both been players in a campaign.

 

Run games together - yep!

Her playing in a game I am running? Many times!

My playing in her game? Not often enough, but it has happened!

 

The Auld Grump

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3 hours ago, Dr.Bedlam said:

There's folks out there who'd pay for good slash fiction about an elf and an ogre gettin' it together. After I discovered there's elf porn fiction available on Amazon, nothing surprises me any more.

 

O.o

 

You mean that stuff Unity and Sweetheart like to read out loud to each other in “Skinhorse” is real?

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17 hours ago, Pingo said:

 

O.o

 

You mean that stuff Unity and Sweetheart like to read out loud to each other in “Skinhorse” is real?

 

Not to deal in squick, but I own a Kindle, and often read books on it, and sometimes surf Amazon for deals.

 

I have seen elf porn.

I have seen dinosaur porn.

Once I even saw Krampus porn.

 

I've never read any; I have reached an age where I know there are things you DON'T want running loose in your head. But it's out there.

 

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There even used to be an internet porn site titled ElfPorn. (Featuring nekkid women with pointy ears.)

 

There was also a site titled NerdPr0n - I met the girl that used to run it the last time I was at GenCon. And, yes, she really is a nerd girl (and a gamer), just a bit more of an exhibitionist than most. She was there with a game company - and not as a booth babe.

 

Rule 34 pertains.

 

The world is a strange, strange place.

 

*EDIT* For the record - there was Holmes/Watson slash fiction that was written while Arthur Conan Doyle was still alive. He was not happy about it. <_<

 

The Auld Grump

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