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I’m pretty sure he was one of the discontinued P65 series minis.  P65 was a lead alloy series which Reaper introduced to provide some lower price large miniatures.  

 

One of the official Reaper folks would have to comment, but it seems like Bones has replaced this niche.  

 

The only minis I would still like to see resculpted from this line are a couple Ice Giants, based on some cool Wayne Reynolds artwork.

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 Yeah, the P65 series was meant to allow them to put out some larger figures at less cost by using a mostly-lead alloy, which was less expensive than their regular material.

Part of the inspiration for the Bones line was the continuation of that search for ways to do large figures at affordable prices, as well as produce figures that wouldn't be possible in metal since they'd be prone to breaking or collapsing under their own weight. So the Bones line was the inevitable successor to the P65 line.

 

 

 

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Awesome I didn’t think of the p65 line. I’ll have to check lost minis. Thanks. 

 

I just checked the lost minis page and couldn’t find it in the P65 line. 

 

I wish the P65 line was still available. It would be awesome to have three Dark Heaven lines to choose from. 

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6 hours ago, Mad Jack said:

 

 Yeah, the P65 series was meant to allow them to put out some larger figures at less cost by using a mostly-lead alloy, which was less expensive than their regular material.

Part of the inspiration for the Bones line was the continuation of that search for ways to do large figures at affordable prices, as well as produce figures that wouldn't be possible in metal since they'd be prone to breaking or collapsing under their own weight. So the Bones line was the inevitable successor to the P65 line.

 

 

 

I thought P65 was an attempt to go back to the way mini's were made BEFORE all that lead danger craze and some peoples dislike of rallidium pewter?

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4 hours ago, Ratmaster2000 said:

I thought P65 was an attempt to go back to the way mini's were made BEFORE all that lead danger craze and some peoples dislike of rallidium pewter?

 

We'd have to ask Reaper directly on that one.  I believe it was a cost issue, as above. 

 

I'm also in the camp of the frost giants, especially since I want to play an Icingstead army and I want to have a few Ice Giants of proper size in that army. 

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did a search and found this:

heres the direct link: https://www.reapermini.com/P-65

 

Announcing P-65 Heavy Metal, Reaper's new miniature model line.

In September you will see the re-release of several of our current best selling models in a new miniature line we call P-65 Heavy Metal.

P-65, what kind of name is that?

P-65 was the metal formula that made Reaper famous and is a blend of white metals designed to capture every subtle detail as well as allow for maximum metal flexibility for straightening and posing.

Bringing this metal formula back into production is a big step for us so we felt it only appropriate to name the new line P-65 in honor of its heritage.

P-65 is a lead based alloy similar to 60% lead - 40% tin solder and is the perfect mix to cast miniatures in.

To gauge both the commercial and public acceptance of P-65 initially we will release a group of specially selected models from our current figure lines eventually followed by new models.

The P-65 miniature line is designed specifically for the adult modeler and is being released to give them a choice in how they spend their hobby dollars.

P-65 will have its own unique blister card and packaging. All P-65 packaging will clearly state in a clear and reasonable manner that the product is for adults and cast using a lead based alloy. All models cast in the P-65 alloy will have P-65 on the bottom of their base.

Why P-65 now?

Indonesia is currently the worlds leading exporter of tin. After reading the statement below made by the person in charge of Indonesian raw material exports, it seems doubtful to us that the price of tin will be coming down anytime in the near future. P-65 simply gives the adult painter an alternative to higher priced tin alloy models.

According to Asia Pulse, Indonesian Director General of Minerals, Coal and Geothermal Energy, Simon F Sembiring is quoted as saying "It is time for Indonesia to be able to dictate the tin price on the world market" adding, "We will control production to keep price stability."

So for us the Director General has made his position clear and while we hope the market will stabilize and the price will drop, however, we're not holding our breath.

FAQ

Q: Is it legal to have lead in miniatures?
A: Yes, Click here for a link to the House and Senate Bill that creates the legal exemption for lead in miniatures.

Q: Are you changing all of your lines over to the P-65 formula?
A: No, ONLY the P-65 miniature line will be using this new lead based alloy. All other lines such as Warlord, Dark Heaven and CAV will continue to be produced using their current tin based alloy.

Q: Is there a way to tell the difference between a P-65 lead alloy miniature and a tin alloy miniature?
A: Yes. P-65 will be all new tooling and pieces cast using that tooling will have 'P65' on the base or an appropriate place on the miniature.

Q: Is there a plan or discussion to change the other lines over to P-65?
A: There is always discussion, but there is no formal plan to change anything else.

Q: If you do decide to change all of Reaper's lines over to P-65 will there be an announcement?
A: Yes.

Q: Is there anything special I need to know or do because lead is present?
A: Nothing more than you should already be doing with basic hygiene. Keep your work area clean and wash your hands when you are done working.

Q: If lead is bad, why did they exempt it in miniatures?
A: While lead can be potentially hazardous, like anything there are different forms of the same material. Miniatures are solid, collected, sealed with paints and coatings. They are not toys that are played with and are not intended for children.

Q: Will I notice a difference in the way my paint acts on a P-65 miniature?
A: No.

Q: What about California?
A: Our packaging for P-65 will contain all appropriate and required content statements.

Q: If this is such a great formula why did you change over to a tin alloy?
A: At the time we launched Dark Heaven, our first tin alloy line, we wanted to remove any possible obstacle the public might have to the new line and all other companies used tin alloys. In other words we didn't want to be different.

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On 12/30/2017 at 12:20 AM, Jeepnewbie said:

While at ReaperCon I stumbled across the Fire Giant Bodyguard in the metal trades bin.  Same as this guy, however I can not find a number for the pewter version.  Was there a limited run on this model?

It does not appear he was actually released in metal.  My educated guess would be he is a hand sculpt that had to be converted to metal before being sent to China for inclusion in the Kickstarter he was included in.

 

In which case, someone put a master casting on the melt table.

 

enjoy your exclusive.

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Holy Broccoli, Nocturmal Echolocating Flying Mammal Man!

 

I assume there were more than one master cast made of each mini, in case of accidents or lost mail.

 

You may need to set limits for how long each Con goer is allowed to root around on the table at the next ReaperCon...

 

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On 1/2/2018 at 3:01 PM, Gadgetman! said:

 

You may need to set limits for how long each Con goer is allowed to root around on the table at the next ReaperCon...

 

 

 Well, the con only lasts four days...

 

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