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4 hours ago, Dilvish the Deliverer said:

Question the 12th of March:  Does your (current or former) job require any sort of continuing or annual/periodic training?  If so, is it useful, or just the same thing over and over?

My old job required me to have annual certification on the forklift..........which they discovered that they hadn't been doing for 3 straight years.

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4 hours ago, Dilvish the Deliverer said:

Question the 12th of March:  Does your (current or former) job require any sort of continuing or annual/periodic training?  If so, is it useful, or just the same thing over and over?

 

Can anyone answer these? 

 

If so, Yes, ugh. I have to complete at least 12 hours of CLE a year to keep my license. Luckily, I can pick and choose from all sorts of "classes" but they are all generally pretty boring. This year I am going to a seminar in Texas that will hopefully get me ALL my hours and be interesting to boot!

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4 hours ago, Dilvish the Deliverer said:

Question the 12th of March:  Does your (current or former) job require any sort of continuing or annual/periodic training?  If so, is it useful, or just the same thing over and over?

 

I have to have 30ish hours every two years, including 6 hours of ethics and 1 or 2 hours of "diversity" training.

 

Is it useful? Sometimes. Thing is though, I don't have to take any training that actually applies to my job. As an example, I'm a prosecutor (i.e. criminal law) but I could take all of my hours in real estate law which I literally, never use in my job, but it would still count. The diversity training is pretty pointless for me given the nature of the training. The training is all about diversity in the workplace, specifically hiring. This is great for private attorneys as even the associates are likely to be partners in a handful of years, but as a prosecutor, hiring decisions all fall on the elected official (which isn't me). It could be potentially really useful if it were designed better though. The biggest fear most prosecutors I know have is a form of unconscious bias (i.e. you don't do it intentionally but still tend to treat different groups differently). If they provided training for how to a) spot, and b) deal with these issues it would be a lot more useful than it is. As it stands though, we have to rely on each other, bouncing ideas, offers, etc., off of each other and the like. This works in theory, provided that we don't all have the same unconscious bias of course. 

 

While the above paragraph can sound ominous, I do still think we do a pretty darn good job of avoiding issues but obviously its a lot easier to say that about myself. 

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3 hours ago, Glitterwolf said:

 

It does...

Military.

 

Is it useful? Let me get back to you when I have been in a War and have survived..then I will know for sure..

 

Sounds like that survival training they put my dad through three times over five years.  Exact same course.  Exact same instructor.  Thankfully, my dad and instructor hit it off really well, and they had a LOT of fun bugging the new army guys that hadn't had their trades training yet about the lovely things called four inch foamies, and why the air force gets them (because helicopters don't get tired). 

 

Instructor was armoured recon so of course... LAV's don't get tired either. 

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5 hours ago, Dilvish the Deliverer said:

Question the 12th of March:  Does your (current or former) job require any sort of continuing or annual/periodic training?  If so, is it useful, or just the same thing over and over?

 

Hrf. Well, let me see. Since I am not employed by the usual standards ... lemme look at what I /do/.

 

Artist. Toxic art materials. Yes, if I don't want to accidentally kill myself. Same goes for making jewelry, with the added excitement of not stabbing myself with something sharp. Throw miniatures in and it's just crazy, man...

Domestic Engineer (I wrangle a house full of humans and cats and a yard full of chickens): ... I don't have a manual for this, but evolving conditions force a certain amount of self-education to stay on top of things to keep everyone healthy. Cooking is a party that involves hot surfaces and objects and sharp things; and maintaining a certain level of cleanliness.

I don't know about the web-design, mostly I just have to not trip copyright issues or offend someone inadvertently. The usual stuff.

 

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6 hours ago, Dilvish the Deliverer said:

Question the 12th of March:  Does your (current or former) job require any sort of continuing or annual/periodic training?  If so, is it useful, or just the same thing over and over?

Pretty much the same ones you do.

 

Speaking of which, I'm due for a couple...

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1 hour ago, Gargs said:

I have to have 30ish hours every two years, including 6 hours of ethics and 1 or 2 hours of "diversity" training.

 

I was going to say that's a lot of hours, but I guess if its every two years it evens out. I'm a civil governmental attorney and I find the ethics CLEs particularly useless. They are all aimed at private attorneys and conflicts with clients, or trust accounts, none of which is relevant to me. 

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6 hours ago, Dilvish the Deliverer said:

Question the 12th of March:  Does your (current or former) job require any sort of continuing or annual/periodic training?  If so, is it useful, or just the same thing over and over?

 

Lol yes.

 

My current department works something like 30 types of cases. I'm getting certified in 10 of them. Next year I'll get a few more then the year after that a few more then a few more then by the time I know everything my job requires I should be looking into management opportunities.

 

I'm trained in, to paraphrase the case types, 'dead guys', 'amended return got lost', 'errors due to lack of confidence', 'minor marriage shenanigans', and others.

 

Next year I get trained in 'tax return got lost', 'international issues', 'intermediate marriage shenanigans', 'disaster codes', etc

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47 minutes ago, TheMandolin said:

 

I was going to say that's a lot of hours, but I guess if its every two years it evens out. I'm a civil governmental attorney and I find the ethics CLEs particularly useless. They are all aimed at private attorneys and conflicts with clients, or trust accounts, none of which is relevant to me. 

 

Yeah, there are a lot of ethics CLEs that technically count for my requirement but which deal exclusively with private attorney issues. Ironically though, the ethics CLE that I usually use to get all my ethics credits is one of the better ones as there's a group that travels around the country with a presentation on ethics specifically for prosecutors. Now they still cram the diversity training and such into it but at least half of it tends to be entertaining as they do "Ethics: The Movie" of which they are up to about four different movies, each detailing an actual case and the pitfalls that the prosecutor has to go through in the process, whether dealing with press, victims, witnesses, or officers who are a bit over-eager. 

 

On a side note, CLE's are particularly fun when they start discussing cases you actually tried and had go up on appeal! (I've had two such cases). :p

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And conveniently for this topic, it looks like I will be doing all of my annual trainings from home tomorrow.  There is another heavy snowstorm running through and the base will be closed.  Normally, if I can't come in, I don't get paid.  However, if I have training that I can accomplish from home, then I can count that time.  So in this case, my procrastination will literally be paying off.

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14 minutes ago, Dilvish the Deliverer said:

And conveniently for this topic, it looks like I will be doing all of my annual trainings from home tomorrow.  There is another heavy snowstorm running through and the base will be closed.  Normally, if I can't come in, I don't get paid.  However, if I have training that I can accomplish from home, then I can count that time.  So in this case, my procrastination will literally be paying off.

 

The upside to being salaried is I get paid even when the court house is closed. The downside is that when I work roughly 100/week for four straight weeks (like I just finished with back to back murder trials) I still get paid as though I worked 40 hours each week. 

 

To be fair though, if I have to go out of town for training I do get paid for mileage and meals, so lunch is usually pretty good! 

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1 hour ago, Gargs said:

as they do "Ethics: The Movie" of which they are up to about four different movies,

 

That sounds much better than mine, if I have to hear one more attorney say, "what happens if you once represented X and X Board, and now you are before X and X Board on behalf of your private client," one more time, i'm going to do something very unethical. 
 

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8 hours ago, Dilvish the Deliverer said:

Question the 12th of March:  Does your (current or former) job require any sort of continuing or annual/periodic training?  If so, is it useful, or just the same thing over and over?

 

My former job required annual training on things like "code of conduct", and similar kinds of liability prevention training. Having been at the company for nigh-on 11 years, I can say that it did evolve over time, but was pretty similar from one year to the next.

 

Occasionally, they'd roll out a specialty class in response to the news crisis of the year, but they were mostly more focused versions of the same thing.

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10 hours ago, Dilvish the Deliverer said:

Question the 12th of March:  Does your (current or former) job require any sort of continuing or annual/periodic training?  If so, is it useful, or just the same thing over and over?

As a schoolteacher, I was expected to go to school for the rest of my life. Realistically, it was going to be a drag, but I got a pretty school Statistics class out of the bargain.

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