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My dnd group has recently started to invest in visual aids, including purchasing some miniatures.  This has been a really fun new part of the hobby for me, and I've been getting into it.  Two of the women in my group were also very excited about buying minis, but were very disheartened to see the options available for female characters.  Do a search of reaper female on miniature market. Of the 30 results that could be used as humanoid player characters in a fantasy setting, I'd say only about 4-5 (including a halfling) don't have at least a D cup, and 12 have breasts that are as big or bigger than the character's head.  Doing a search of the Reaper website has similar results, although some of the vintage sculpts are not so bad (while others are much worse). 

Male minis are muscular, powerful looking.  They resemble actual athletes.  How many Reaper minis look anything like female atheletes?  With the exception of a few barbarian character, most female melee class minis have waist sizes that are borderline absurd for normal human proportions and downright preposterous for a character that is meant to be in peak physical condition.

If you don't care that this is offensive, at least consider the fact that it is alienating.  My two friends, who have been very excited to throw themselves into this new world of D&D, were very discouraged to find a part of that world that looked like it was not meant for them.  

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Look at the Wizkids Unpainted lines. The females in those lines are probably what you want.

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Hm.

 

In this context: Could we also have a short look on how actual males look in comparison to the male characters you describe?

 

But afar from that: I'd suggest Bad Squiddo games. Annie tries to filter all the believable female figures out of the great mess of female figures that are on the market. Maybe you will be able to find some usable figures there.

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Many of the available prepainted minis out there (look at Paizo or DnD minis) are also pretty decent in terms of what you are looking for -- though of course you lose the ability to paint them then.

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Try Heroines in Sensible Shoes by Oathsworn Miniatures. And if you wish to discuss this topic further, I suggest you join Beekeepers.

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5 minutes ago, etherial said:

Try Heroines in Sensible Shoes by Oathsworn Miniatures. And if you wish to discuss this topic further, I suggest you join Beekeepers.

 

Cough.

 

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51 minutes ago, Goop said:

My dnd group has recently started to invest in visual aids, including purchasing some miniatures.  This has been a really fun new part of the hobby for me, and I've been getting into it.  Two of the women in my group were also very excited about buying minis, but were very disheartened to see the options available for female characters.  Do a search of reaper female on miniature market.  Of the 30 results that could be used as humanoid player characters in a fantasy setting, I'd say only about 4-5 (including a halfling) don't have at least a D cup, and 12 have breasts that are as big or bigger than the character's head.  Doing a search of the Reaper website has similar results, although some of the vintage sculpts are not so bad (while others are much worse). 

Male minis are muscular, powerful looking.  They resemble actual athletes.  How many Reaper minis look anything like female atheletes?  With the exception of a few barbarian character, most female melee class minis have waist sizes that are borderline absurd for normal human proportions and downright preposterous for a character that is meant to be in peak physical condition.

If you don't care that this is offensive, at least consider the fact that it is alienating.  My two friends, who have been very excited to throw themselves into this new world of D&D, were very discouraged to find a part of that world that looked like it was not meant for them.  

 

There are a number of female Reaper minis which might be more to their taste:

 

This is not all, there are many more not too buxom/sexy female minis in the range.

 

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/female/sku-down/14204

 

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/female/sku-down/14328

 

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/female/latest/03844

 

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/female/sku-down/77094

 

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/female/sku-down/60168

 

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/female/sku-down/60167#detail/60167_w_2

 

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/female/sku-down/60136

 

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/female/sku-down/60052

 

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/female/sku-down/14604

 

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/female/sku-down/14590

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Glitterwolf said:

 

There are a number of female Reaper minis which might be more to their taste:

 

This is not all, there are many more not too buxom/sexy female minis in the range.

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Good selection, Glitter. I am always amazed how fast you come up with all those minis.

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Just now, SisterMaryNapalm said:

 

Good selection, Glitter. I am always amazed how fast you come up with all those minis.

 

I admit I browse the webstore more then once a week.

And I also do this with other ranges.

 

Always on the look out for nice minis.

 

Sure, there are minis one might not like in there, I don't like every mini either.

But I'm also sure there is good balance.

 

How about these?

Female, not overly sexy and warrior as heck..

 

https://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/viking/sku-down/03038

 

https://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/viking/sku-down/03643

 

https://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/blade/sku-down/14348

 

https://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/blade/sku-down/02036

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I like a lot of Sandra Garrity's female sculpts. I've been collecting them for a while, especially the earlier ones, for more realistic & sensible (read: not cheesecake) sculpts. I have 2 daughters that play D&D so I'm fairly sensitive to the subject too. 

 

Damon.

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I think another thing to remember as well is that while its certainly true that a lot of female minis tend to be rather . . . "developed" shall we say, there is also the issue of trying to get decent detail on really small figures. I think that a lot of the time this leads to an exaggeration of the form (both in males and females) rather than something more "realistic" because you need a certain amount of "enhancement" in order to be able to pick it out at such a small scale. Just as an example, while I am no body builder, I also don't see myself as a 90 pound weakling either. That said, if a mini were made to look just like me, it likely would appear pretty flat in the muscle department simply because at that scale things like biceps and the like just are not going to show up. I think this is perhaps part of the reason (certainly not the only reason) you tend to see rather curvy female figures. A small chest is going to look really small at that scale.

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1 minute ago, Gargs said:

I think another thing to remember as well is that while its certainly true that a lot of female minis tend to be rather . . . "developed" shall we say, there is also the issue of trying to get decent detail on really small figures. I think that a lot of the time this leads to an exaggeration of the form (both in males and females) rather than something more "realistic" because you need a certain amount of "enhancement" in order to be able to pick it out at such a small scale. Just as an example, while I am no body builder, I also don't see myself as a 90 pound weakling either. That said, if a mini were made to look just like me, it likely would appear pretty flat in the muscle department simply because at that scale things like biceps and the like just are not going to show up. I think this is perhaps part of the reason (certainly not the only reason) you tend to see rather curvy female figures. A small chest is going to look really small at that scale.

 

Oh come on...this is definitely a normal male, right?

 

https://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/viking/sku-down/03385

 

 

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I’ve been hunting down good female minis since 1980. It’s never been easy.

 

When I came back to the hobby after a 20 year break, I was pleased to find Reaper’s deep catalogue of different types of figures. Frankly, I was blown away by the first flat-heeled shoe, non-buxom, reasonably dressed female figure I saw. That was so hard to find in zer old days!

 

That’s not to say I haven’t been lobbying for a broader range of types of female figures. But honestly, compared to a lot of companies Reaper’s females include a way higher percentage of practical and sensibly dressed and accessorized models.

 

I’ll second the recommendation for Bad Squiddo Games. The proprietor has a great talent for sifting through and finding great sensible female figures from a lot of different figure lines.

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3 minutes ago, Glitterwolf said:

 

Oh come on...this is definitely a normal male, right?

 

https://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/viking/sku-down/03385

 

 

 

To be honest ... I always thought that this one resembles you a bit. Just misses the dog. And your headdress is a bit different ... but afar from that?

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