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13 minutes ago, lazylathe said:

 

No worries about posting pics here, please go ahead!

I just measured my Intercessor and he stands at 42mm. Since it was the first mini I have seen, it looked small, until now! And then I see the 10mm ones...

The base is 32mm.

 

So i guess I am panting on a large scale still!

Managed a few more coats and details, more tomorrow!

 

Oh wow, that's a definite size jump in scale, no wonder Rictus would come across as being short then! 

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Spent the morning touching up and straightening out small details and it was looking pretty good!

Then i decided to use that nasty wash again...I am going to stay away from it for now or buy a better quality one.

It was not bringing out the details so i added more and then it just turned into a dull mess again...

Into the denatured alcohol it goes!

Going to clean him up and step away from them for a bit!

 

Next up will be a Dungeon Dweller from Reaper using Reaper paints.

Hoping for some better weather tomorrow for a bit of spray priming!

 

Question:

When i look at the models is see a lot of detail and intricate areas that some people seem to cover in their base coat and it looks great!

I see the details and feel a need to paint them as hatches etc in a different color.

Is this too much for an absolute beginner? I find i am spending a lot of time trying to perfect painting 1mmX1mm square panels...

How do you decide what to highlight and what can be left as base coat?

I am guessing it is sort of similar to airplanes, where the access panels are the same color as the base or whatever graphic.

Guess i may be too obsessed with the small details to start with!

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A much better day today! I am really liking the smaller scale of the Reaper mini's!

Some parts are extremely challenging, especially when they are poorly cast as the teeth and mouth on the one dweller. For a newbie, it was interesting!

Primed up with Tamiya light grey spray primer and i am using the Reaper paint.

The Reaper paints are awesome to use and love the dropper style bottles.

 

Trying various techniques as i mix and experiment with the paints. Tried some highlighting on the purple skirt, wooden shield and a few other areas.

Really like how the shield came out, some lines are a bit thick but overall i am impressed i did it!

Still a lot to do but need to give the eyes a break and see what the wife is up to!

Feel re-energized now!!

 

I feel this guy needs lighter skin as it is too close to the leather, kind of all blends in.

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This guy i am quite proud of! At least so far, who knows what i will do to it tomorrow! LOL!

Tried some shading and old wood look on the shield, look good to me. Still very beginner but good!...

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I also think i like one piece painting as opposed to a whole pile of bits to paint and then assemble. Will work on that aspect as i also love the assembly part!

 

Lots of touch ups to do, more tomorrow!

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A goblin, oh yeah, that's going to be small. Good for you for painting it the True Goblin Color. ^_^

 

You might want to consider a bit of a wash or maybe some darklining* just along the edges where two colors meet, to help them visually separate. That could help, for instance, where the orange skin meets the orangeish leather.

 

 

* Means painting thin lines along the edges of color areas with something dark, black or brown or purple or whatever works for your figure. Often done before adding other colors so you can make them really thin by pulling the color over them closer to the edge. Taken to extremes it can make your figure look like a comic book illustration (not that there's anything wrong with that); used subtly they look like shadows.

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Many color changes later and i am kind of happy with this goblin! The camera really brings all the errors to life in massive scale!!

Had a lot of fun painting this one and the archer is up next, again. I did not like his skin color and i did a few silly trial tests on him that did not work as hoped.

It's raining, cold and damp so no outside priming for now...

 

Also need to hit the Gaming store to pick up a few different characters to paint!

 

 

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As luck would have it, the store was having a sale!! Usually $5.50 a mini, today they were 3 for $12!

So i came home with a bag of D&D primed minis and a few metal ones!

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A sale? Now you’re in trouble. ::D:  

 

I’d recommend not buying too far ahead of painting until you are ready to commit to a ‘project’, but I don’t follow that advice very well myself. ::P:

 

You’re off to an excellent start; any questions occurring as you did the goblins?

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4 hours ago, Rob Dean said:

A sale? Now you’re in trouble. ::D:  

 

I’d recommend not buying too far ahead of painting until you are ready to commit to a ‘project’, but I don’t follow that advice very well myself. ::P:

 

You’re off to an excellent start; any questions occurring as you did the goblins?

 

LOL!!! I bought 13 minis, not a lot by any standards and i tried to find the ones that interested me the most from a wide range of genres!

Most are D&d minis with a few GW thrown in for good measure!

I don't think I will be doing any project painting, mostly just mini's that interest me as i mainly want to learn to paint.

 

My main issues are with brush control and I still think paint thinning.

Brush control on such tiny things is definitely something that takes a lot of practice! I bought a pair of magnifier glass to help with the details but the brush tip does not do what i want it to, yet.

When i try and pick up a small bit of paint it tend to blob up about 1mm from the tip and not on the tip where i want it.

Managed to do some very fine and light black lines and then some thicker ones so it looks messy...

I also tried a light wash of some Ruddy Brown all over him to pick up some shadows and to give him a dirty appearance.

The teeth and mouth were very difficult due to poor casting and very little detail especially on the left side facing the shield. Hard trying to figure it out without too much artistic skill!

I enjoyed doing the shield and am most proud of that part of the mini!

 

What type of finish would you put on him to protect the acrylic finish?

A clear spray or is there a paint on product?

 

There is a painting guide but the pictures are not too clear when enlarged and i did not have most of the colors they used.

Improvising without knowledge can sometimes be disastrous... Need to find some pics online first to get a rough idea of colors.

 

 

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3 hours ago, lazylathe said:

What type of finish would you put on him to protect the acrylic finish?

A clear spray or is there a paint on product?

 

You want to look for “sealer”. Reaper makes some brush-on types as do others, not sure if there is a decent spray sealer though. In a pinch, you can even use something like Mod Podge, but that tends to go on a bit thicker than Reaper sealers. On the plus side, it takes a Herculean effort to get through that stuff.

 

Be aware that most sealers, even when labeled matte, tend to make things noticeably more shiny than before. 

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I have the Reaper brush on sealer, which seems to work well enough.  I prefer to spray things after the basing, though, because it helps hold the flock in place. These days, I generally use a Krylon low odor matte finish spray, which doesn’t seem to cause any problems with Bones and is fairly tolerant to humidity.  I used to use the Kyrlon 1311 but they must have changed the formulation a few years ago, becuase it started frosting on me regularly.

10 hours ago, lazylathe said:

 

I don't think I will be doing any project painting, mostly just mini's that interest me as i mainly want to learn to paint.

 

My main issues are with brush control and I still think paint thinning.

Brush control on such tiny things is definitely something that takes a lot of practice! I bought a pair of magnifier glasses...

 

Managed to do some very fine and light black lines and then some thicker ones so it looks messy...

 

I also tried a light wash of some Ruddy Brown all over him to pick up some shadows and to give him a dirty appearance.

 

There is a painting guide but the pictures are not too clear when enlarged and i did not have most of the colors they used.

 

In no particular order, I often have the same problems with washes, so I have largely gotten away from using them. When necessary (textures like furs and chainmail respond well) I generally plan to paint the highlight areas again afterwards.

 

I certainly use magnifiers; adopting the Optivisor ten years ago brought the pleasure back to painting.

 

Paint thinning/drying issues will improve with practice. I just started using a wet palette a couple of years ago, which helps a lot. I also have a dropper bottle of water and a bottle of drying retarder to help out.

 

Looking at your lines, your brush control is already pretty good; more practice will continue to make things easier.

 

As far as projects go, one of the things about painting is to know when a figure is “done”. I am usually using things in tabletop wargames, so I know from experience that a lot of what I am doing in painting isn’t really visible in a game. So I could quit earlier. If you’re planning to hand them to friends to admire with a magnifier, “done” is going to be further along. 

 

But when you are aiming at something like this, you won’t really notice that the third private from the left in the second regiment back has some extra thick black-lining to clean up his belts... So I try to work backward from the final desired effect to get to the amount if work needed for the individual figure.

 

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More Goblins!! Or Dungeon Dwellers!

Primed with Tamiya fine grey spray on primer, once this can is done i will switch to a commercially available primer in a spray can.

I also need to ssslloowww down...And check over the mini's after priming! They still have some mold lines visible, next time!

 

Forgot to buy some matt varnish, so i tried some gloss on the first goblin. Looks very shiny and reflective now, it also smoothed it out a bit. (way too shiny for my liking)

This is #2 mini that has the varnish on it.

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For today, I worked on 3 individual mini's and it was a lot of fun mixing it up and doing each one in individual colors.

I have seen a lot of other members block in their mini's, so i gave it a go and much prefer this way to just painting the whole mini in your base color. I do realize that some mini's will require a total covering in base color, I would imagine very dark colored ones would be best for this.

 

No highlights, shading or blending has been done yet. I have read of an interesting way to do goblin skin and will be trying it out on the next three.

1- base coat nice and evenly

2-base coat mixed with black, not too dark for a thin wash for shading

3-base coat over muscle tone leaving the shading

4- Highlight by lightening base coat successively

5- Add some bleached bone shade to the last base coat shade and pick out high spots, veins etc

6- Green ink mixed with water very thin to be used as a tint over all the skin. (not required)

 

That's the plan and we will see how it works out in a few days time!

 

Here is today's progress! To me they look slightly better than the last one and they still have a long way to go!

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1 hour ago, Edsterdoom said:

Very nice selection of colours on those goblins. 

 

Thanks! I did some research online and most agreed their skin was various shades of green, the orange guy came out too bright but i will try and fix that.

 

Good luck with beating your 2017 tally!!

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Once you get some matt varnish you can put it over the gloss and get rid of that shine. That's actually what a lot of minis gamers do all the time.  The gloss is harder and will protect the paint job more, but the matt looks better.

And if you are gaming with them a lot, when they start to get shiny you know you've worn through the matt coat and can reapply it while the gloss is still protecting your paint job.

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Finished the one dungeon dweller, well sort of... The head is still confusing as to what i should do. It looked odd with just one color and highlights etc I had no idea of where to place them! More practice is required!

 

I tried some highlighting and washes and changed the colors a few times as well.

Also found some matt varnish that i discovered adding colors to it, desaturates them and they can be used as a wash type of paint. May also be good for highlights in the future, not sure.

 

Comments welcomed! I really like the shield this time and his dirty body from battles! I know there is a lot to improve on but it is better than the last one!

 

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Loosely speaking, highlights on faces should go on like stage makeup, for much the same reasons...

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