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For those of you who remember me, I thought I would post a quick update on my my store - since I've moved yet again!  Although it was only 2 miles this time, I did go from ~2100 sf to ~6000 sf - so I've got some breathing room (again).

Since this IS the Reaper forums, I'll keep it relevant with some gratuitous shots of my paint and minis selection!  Look at all that Bones mini goodness (with some Dark Heaven, Chronoscope, Warlord, and Pathfinder sprinkled in)...

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Very nice.

Liking your large Reaper selection.

Quite neat and tidy too. Very browsable.

Looks like the kind of place I would like to shop.

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Why can't any of my local stores have an epic selection of stuff (especially paint!) like yours! 

 

Looks great! ^_^

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Nice! I'll have to stop by when I finally make it out to see the falls. 

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Man, I hope you've got a good turnaround on those Citadel paints. Otherwise, I feel sorry for the people who buy them after a few months. I've gotten so many half-dried Citadel pots off the shelf that I've pretty much sworn off of them. Even stuff I bought direct from GW's website has arrived in bad shape before. They're just terrible, terrible pots.

 

Otherwise, I wish I had a game shop like that around. But my area just can't support it. We barely support the shops we do have, because there's so few of us. Most of the local business lies in Magic and Warhammer 40k exclusively...

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2 hours ago, Unruly said:

Man, I hope you've got a good turnaround on those Citadel paints.

Yeah, Citadel paints are the most returned product due to quality issues across all my product lines (D&D books come in second) and even when I dealt directly with GW my reps gave me issues about returning them.  They're also my highest shrinkage product (that I can track, I'm sure the loose dice and Magic bulk are worse), which is why they are closer to the front than both Reaper and Army Painter.  Add on the short discount and I'm even less of a fan, but they do sell well...

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7 hours ago, Dragon Snack said:

Yeah, Citadel paints are the most returned product due to quality issues across all my product lines (D&D books come in second) and even when I dealt directly with GW my reps gave me issues about returning them.  They're also my highest shrinkage product (that I can track, I'm sure the loose dice and Magic bulk are worse), which is why they are closer to the front than both Reaper and Army Painter.  Add on the short discount and I'm even less of a fan, but they do sell well...

 

I really do want to like Citadel paints. I do. I like Khorne Red as a color. Their metallic are pretty nice, too. But geez they make it hard, don't they? It's like "Play the lottery by buying our paints! If you win, it's usable for a few months before it dries out. If you lose, you just wasted $5 on an already dried pot."

 

They really need a new pot design. Or better yet, to switch to droppers like everyone else.

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They're on pot design 3 or 4 at least.  And those are just the ones I've seen, I'm sure there were ones from before my time...
 

I don't think they'll switch to droppers anytime soon, a lot of new painters prefer painting out of the pot.

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I believe it's the sixth generation now.  First was the HMG ones (think Formula P3, Coat D'Arms, Foundry, etc size), then similar sized but with a hexagon design for second gen.  First gen paints tend to be found within the Coat D'Arms line now, although renamed.  First two generations were of a flip top design that sealed well, although the hinge had a bad habit of snapping after a while, but such didn't affect the seal.  Many who have paints from these days have paint that is still usable now due to this seal. 

 

Third gen was the bolter shell design, which was a hexagonal base, and a screw top lid...  These are arguably considered to be some of the worst they ever made, as they could dry out in less than a month if you weren't particular about ensuring no paint ever got onto the threads and also made certain you screwed the pot good and tight to the point you felt you were going to break it.  Either that or paint along the threads meant good luck opening it up next time. 

 

Fourth (and also fifth) gen was where the current flip top design came from, although these were flat top with black lids.  Fourth gen wasn't bad, but they tweaked it after a year or two (and came out with the foundation paints) because there was a slight design issue with how the lids sealed. 

 

Sixth gen is what we have now, with the curved tops that let you see a sample of what's in the pot (no more having to put a dab of paint on the top of the pot), but they aren't stackable anymore.  There is also a two step process to sealing the lid, but there still is that annoying issue of paint drying out in the pot itself, even if it's never been cracked open before. 

 

 

From the fourth generation onwards, there's also been that nice lip inside that works as a mini palette, which a lot of novices (and/or those who like thick coats of paint,

) like to use because of how easy it is to use, and how quick it is. No messing around with a palette or measuring out ratios, just dip and go. Problem is, this causes your paint to dry out even faster... 

 

Yes, the first two generations also had this lip, but it was of a different design, and not as easy to be "lazy" with. 

 

 

 

As a footnote, in all honesty I wound up referencing a Bolter and Chainsword article to double check things, because I wanted to make sure.  Half tempted to take a pic of a third gen paint pot and send it to them so they have a proper pic of such... ^_^

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I still have some 1st Gen paints that still usable. Granted they mostly kept in a box in the garage these days. :) 

 

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is it the paint or the pot?  could they be transferred to a dropper bottle and maintained okay?  Never done it so I'm asking.  the only paints I really like from GW are the washes and glazes so I don't usually suffer the death of paints.  I may have to add a little water or thin matte base but I have never had one of those dry out on me (the fact that they are probably 90% water non-withstanding) ::):

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1 hour ago, Kangaroorex said:

is it the paint or the pot?  could they be transferred to a dropper bottle and maintained okay?  Never done it so I'm asking.  the only paints I really like from GW are the washes and glazes so I don't usually suffer the death of paints.  I may have to add a little water or thin matte base but I have never had one of those dry out on me (the fact that they are probably 90% water non-withstanding) ::):

It's generally considered to be the pot, as most who have switched them over to a dropper bottle report no issues even a few years later.  The most common trick I've read about when swapping them over is to add a few drops of flow improve, shake and/or stir thoroughly, then slowly pour it into the dropper bottle (generally with the use of a small, slick funnel to reduce spills). 

 

The main factor most say that causes the drying out are two fold: first being getting the pots to properly seal is difficult, and secondly, just how large the opening for the pot is. 

 

At least that's what I've read anyways. 

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