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  1. YronimosW

    Reaper Bones 5 : Enthusiasm and Commentary Thread

    I also like having some relatively static and nondescript townsfolk to add to the more dynamic characters from previous Kickstarters - in real life, most townsfolk you see around festivals and farmers' markets and what-not aren't very dynamic, either - of course you get a few who are talking animatedly, or paying for something, or carrying something, or working, or whatever, but many of the others are just minding their own business, going from one place to another, waiting for something, window-shopping, gawping at things, and so on. Take a fistful of static townsfolk, and two market stalls, set two of the townies up behind the stalls as shopkeepers, and a smattering of the rest around the stall as shoppers, and they'll work just fine for a standard-issue street scene for adventurers to chase a thief through or whatever.... I don't think the Core Set and Dungeon Dwellers Expansion get a lot of credit for what they've got going for them, either - these sets are filled with some great stuff: I think these sets are quite nice as-is, but it seems like at least a few backers seem to be complaining about these sets, yet nobody seems to have any suggestions for what they would have wanted instead. If you felt let down by this Kickstarter, what would make an ideal Core Set for you?
  2. I think this is actually a great question, but I also think a thread like this is bound to give Reaper some mixed messages since everyone's probably got their own unique needs and preferences, so in that grain-of-sea-salt spirit the question was asked in: I'm an Role-playing game master first and foremost, with customization and painting being a secondary hobby for me; I live in an apartment with limited space, and I'm beginning to feel like I've reached that point of Too Many Minis a long, long time ago - I've got more than I'll practically ever need or use. For my tastes and needs, the things that Reaper Bones does right are: Reaper Bones has the advantage of being relatively inexpensive and highly customizable (especially "classic" Bones, vs. Bones Black). Those are strengths that Reaper can really play to, especially with customization - as always, I'm a big fan of things like weapons and equipment sprues, sprues of heads, etc. I love Reaper's sculpting and modeling style - for most purposes, I prefer Reaper's products, aesthetically, to any of the competing products - Reaper's artists and sculptors are extremely talented, where I kind of feel like the competition's products are fairly workman-like in comparison. Reaper's got a big edge on variety vs. the competition - Reaper may not have too many player-character figures in a fairly generic style, but it's easy to find a dozen different dwarves or two dozen different goblins or whatever to field thanks to Reaper. I like inventive and original monsters, and unique takes on the subject matter - I rather like Reaper's "not-quite-X" monsters like the Eye Beast, Oxidation Beast, etc., and even prefer them to the name-brand versions! And the original stuff without precedent in the monster manuals is always golden, and I appreciate that it exists, even when it's something I might not need or want. Reaper's selection of townsfolk/villagers is unequaled - for those of us who love and use NPC models, there's almost nothing out there quite like the selection Reaper has! Reaper also has a fair selection of related dungeon dressing and terrain - maybe not the biggest selection (Mantic's Terrain Crates are maybe the leader here), but better than, say, Wizkids'. Reaper's Chronoscope Bones line is something that is completely unique - unless you try to do something with the (now out-of-print?) Star Wars pre-painted collectible minis, or Games Workshop's very specific sci-fi miniatures or similar and even more specific kits from GW's direct competitors, there just aren't really very many plastic sci-fi gaming miniatures out there, and even fewer steampunk, cyberpunk, and post-apocalyptic miniatures, let alone weird western and pulp miniatures! Sandy Petersen's Cthulhu Wars has made a lot of Mythos themed plastic monsters available, but you have to raid board games to find an appreciable alternative supply of Mythos investigators. Minis for Paizo's Starfinder sci-fi RPG seem like a relatively untapped market with some strong demand right now.... With a little extra TLC, I have a feeling this is one relatively small market but untapped market that Reaper can dominate and build its own demand for by providing a more complete selection of good miniatures - "If you build it, the RPGs for it will come!" There are some specific niches that I kind of wish that Reaper would fill for me, many of which actually fall under the banner of criticism of the RPG industry in general, and also of taste and style in gaming, but those are perhaps best addressed in separate posts because this post is long enough, and many of those niche things are conversations of their own. Some of those YMMV room-for-improvement items that I will mention now: I don't care for the integral "broccoli" bases, unless they're in a standard, round, relatively plain size - I usually cut the original base off, and glue the mini down to one of Reaper's replacement bases instead. I think I'd actually rather get most minis without the integral bases to save some trouble, and maybe it would save Reaper a TON of plastic. I know the minis are designed to be "plug-and-play" so that you can pull them right out of the package and drop them immediately onto the game table, but maybe we can at least at least sculpt the minis with standard-sized round bases wherever possible? More Bones Weapons Sprues and other Conversion Bits. There seem to be virtually no other companies producing the equivalent of the Bones Weapons Sprues and other Conversion Bits - I know I'm a broken record on the topic, but with regular Bones minis being such a pleasure to modify and customize, Reaper really should be playing up this aspect of their miniatures line compared to the competition by providing a reliable and broad supply of conversion parts and miniatures that can take even better advantage of those conversion parts! Again, I know that Reaper Bones are meant to be dropped immediately onto the table without requiring conversion first, but the ease of conversion for Reaper Bones seems like a much stronger selling point for me.... I mean, with Reaper Bones, gluing a baseless mini, a head swap, weapon swap, or whatever into place takes almost no skill, only a few seconds, a cheap side-cutter clippers, a cheap hobby knife, and a bottle of Wacky Gloo... almost anyone who can be trusted with a hobby knife can do this safely and quickly, and make it look good!
  3. +1 to some of the above (especially the catfolk and female and civilian humanoids), except the less-of--Goblins-and-Trolls bit: I myself don't need any more male warrior Goblins, but Goblin civilians, Goblin ladies, and Goblin player-characters are quite welcome, and it's kind of nice to have so many warrior Goblins in different styles: we all have a great variety to choose from for our favorite style of Goblin to use for general-purpose Goblin horde use... I might not want them all, but I have an excellent selection to choose from for picking just the right style for my game table! (And if I were into tabletop wargaming and needed a source of inexpensive minis for my goblin horde, Reaper's selection would be hard to beat for fielding a mob of them that wouldn't have many duplicate poses!) And, some "Evil Dead" style "not-Deadites" (Necronomicon Ex-Mortis optional!)
  4. YronimosW

    Reaper Bones 5 : Enthusiasm and Commentary Thread

    I have to think that the higher price is partly accounted for in having so many larger minis, and partly in being made from Bones Black: in the online shop, it looks like regular Bones minis of human size average about US $3.00 and Bones Black minis of the same size about US $3.50 - Bones Black appears to be just a bit more expensive!
  5. YronimosW

    Reaper Bones 5 : Enthusiasm and Commentary Thread

    Maybe a matter of perspective, combined with the weird awkwardness of the rendering engine? I remember thinking much the same thing about the zombie shark from the last Kickstarter and the shark-man from an earlier KS, but those both ended up looking much better in person....
  6. YronimosW

    Reaper Bones 5 : Enthusiasm and Commentary Thread

    No doubt I can find a use for them if I really wanted to - after all, that's what makes the Chronoscope minis so much fun for me! :) And I hope nobody takes my disinterest in the aquatic expansion the wrong way - I think those models are cool, and I'm tempted to get the expansion just for a chance to figure out a use for the ogres, fish-men, and mermaids, if for no other reason!
  7. YronimosW

    Reaper Bones 5 : Enthusiasm and Commentary Thread

    I've never done an aquatic adventure, and I'm not inclined to do one, but I bet I could find a use for dire crawdads and hermit crabs, killer octopi, and all-purpose dire slugs and snails... and, my games keep borrowing way too much of the Cthulhu Mythos for me not to be able to find some kind of use for more not-Sahuagin/Deep Ones!
  8. YronimosW

    Reaper Bones 5 : Enthusiasm and Commentary Thread

    I could be waaay off base, but I'm getting the impression that at least some of the negativity is an attempt by a couple activists who have some sort of drum they want to beat against Kickstarter and/or Reaper about unionization and/or labor practices. I noticed a handful of comments relating to that really early in the Kickstarter, followed by a lot of weird, vague, and wildly over-the-top complaints about the Reaper Kickstarter and its backers. I didn't really think of it again until I noticed that some of those negative comments keep coming back around to complaints about labor practices. Basically, someone's hijacked the Kickstarter comments and Reaper's fund-raising project to try to use it as their personal (or their organization's) soap-box. Ha - I used to work with someone who was the same way about "The Cloud" - "The competition is beating us, and it's because they're leveraging The Cloud - WE NEED MORE CLOUD!" "More Cloud" became a running theme for them, using it in some really inappropriate and weird ways to do things that were completely unnecessary, and it turned a meme for those of us who had to deal with it: "The company can't afford any bonus this year. We need more cloud!" "My laptop's battery just died - quick, someone get me a bucket of cloud!" "I can't make it in to work today, I had a flat tire!" "Well, if your car had more cloud, that wouldn't be a problem, would it?" I agree completely about the ship model (and other large terrain), and that what's good for modeling is not necessarily good for gaming: I'd rather see the material, creativity, and energy diverted elsewhere, with a dedicated scale model company producing old-fashioned injection-molded styrene plastic sailing ship model kits in 28mm scale for those who like that sort of thing (and I've built more than a couple plastic sailing ship model kits in my time - nothing wrong with those who like that sort of thing!) For my money, a tabletop map, dry-erase grid, or even a sheet of graph paper is plenty good enough for my tabletop RPG terrain needs, and in fact it's a heck of a lot more practical and affordable than fighting against a ship model might be. Sure, I don't mind dropping some dungeon dressing and other scatter terrain on those maps where it can add something interesting to a tactical fight, but over all, I find the modeling for elaborate terrain and 3D dungeon tiles to be a different hobby from the role-playing and tactical dice-tossing. Especially considering how limited my storage and gaming space is these days! Of course, I'm well aware that I'm not the only voice of Reaper's backers, and that my style of gaming is not the only one nor necessarily the biggest one, and I'm also well aware that there's been a huge demand from fans for that ship, so if Reaper can in fact produce such a thing, and sell enough of them at the price needed to both keep themselves in business AND make those fans happy, then I can't really complain - it's a win for everyone involved, I think, and to be fair, Reaper really has produced the vast majority of the character minis, monsters, and scatter terrain that I'd ever want or need, plus more alternatives than I'd ever practically need, so if there's a market for large ships, terrain, dioramas, safe-queen display pieces, busts, and novelty items instead of more of the stuff I already have and am quite happy with, then I'm really not missing out on much, right? I can always request those few items I do still want but haven't seen yet in the mean time! :)
  9. YronimosW

    Reaper Bones 5 : Enthusiasm and Commentary Thread

    That would make sense, too - I mean, they've got to be cutting pretty close to their bottom line as it is, and I can't see how they could add VERY many more minis to the core set at the current price-per-mini! That said, if they can afford a 200-mini core set at this price, I'm definitely all for it! :)
  10. YronimosW

    Reaper Bones 5 : Enthusiasm and Commentary Thread

    There were two giants (cloud and storm) that might or might not fit the theme, there was Cerberus, there were three "succubi" that might actually be furies/erinyes, there were at least four heroes that I can think of (a warrior woman, a male warrior that might represent Perseus, a guy who looks like a scholar or philosopher, and Heracles), and a hippogryph.... For things that haven't been revealed yet (to my knowledge), I think a gorgon/medusa seems like a natural fit for this theme that I haven't seen Reaper do in Bones yet. Satyrs/fauns, dryads/nymphs, etc. also seem like a natural fit and relatively under-represented. A lot of folks have been hoping for more minotaurs; I feel like we've already got more in Bones than I'm likely to use, but there is only one female minotaur that I know of, so if they add one or two at all, maybe another female minotaur wouldn't be a bad choice? With only two columns to represent terrain in this expansion, seems like it's a bit light on terrain (so far) compared to most expansions until now, though I really can't think of any other terrain other than maybe statues, and at only four hero-types revealed so far it seems like this expansion is also light on heroes, townfolk, and human-sized mooks and monsters, and perhaps animals (say, like Pegasus and the Nemean Lion?)
  11. YronimosW

    Reaper Bones 5 : Enthusiasm and Commentary Thread

    I'm kind of like that with the Dungeon Dwellers expansion vs. the others: I think the Dungeon Dwellers expansion was loaded with win even if it does have a couple of minis we've seen before, and I don't get the complaining about it - it's my favorite so far of the three expansions. But, I agree completely: I'm happy with the Kickstarter, and happy to see other people excited, and, like you, fascinated with that broad cross-section. It's kind of like the way there's a vocal part of that cross-section that is excited by bigger and bigger monsters and terrain pieces, large-scale figures, and busts, while I like smaller, more practically manageable, tabletop dungeon-crawl-friendly minis, and don't get so excited for pirate ships and gargantuan dragons and the like... that vocal cross-section isn't wrong, none of us are - it's just that Reaper's base of fans and backers contains a really diverse group of hobbyists of all sorts....
  12. You're welcome. And, I guess what I'm getting at is that there's at least two kinds of people who get offended about the naughty bits of minis: those who object on a general "NSW" level, and those who object based on a perceived objectification of women through the heroic proportions (which are, to be fair, as exaggerated as anything else at a scale where more realistic proportions would be kind of hard to distinguish!) To put it in context, there was something of a tempest-in-a-teacup a couple Kickstarters ago, over the size of a Valkyerie's girly-parts....
  13. YronimosW

    Reaper Bones 5 : Enthusiasm and Commentary Thread

    I think that sounds about right, Nunae! Certainly, based on the fulfillment shipping from the Kickstarters in the past, most of the orders seemed to go to the U.S., followed by Canada and the UK, and then perhaps Latin America. Still though, Europe and Asia were hardly backing with an insignificant amount of pledges: I recall being surprised more than once by how much the total could climb overnight, and it seems like many goals that the western hemisphere had barely touched at the end of the night would get pushed over the top thanks to the ROW! :) As for the expansions: I might be remembering things wrong, but I think that the last Kickstarter ran one expansion at a time without much - if any - overlap between them, and the way the maps look so far, I suppose that'll be the case this time. No reason it HAS to be that way, though: I think the first couple Kickstarters did run the expansions side-by-side. I don't know if Reaper has any advantage in running it one way vs. the other, and they do seem to have tried things a little different in every Kickstarter to see what happens....
  14. YronimosW

    Reaper Bones 5 : Enthusiasm and Commentary Thread

    Or maybe drop a the goal for a really big, high-dollar Option at the end of the night, one which might get reached overnight, or later the next day, with little or no overnight intervention required... a really big dragon maybe, or a big scenic item like that circle of standing stones from a couple Kickstarters ago, or... I don't know, that pirate ship everyone keeps talking about? ;) In all seriousness, it seems like the large-scale items are popular enough to keep things going overnight, but might be just expensive enough to do so without getting blown through too quickly and easily.... EDIT: it occurs to me that I don't really know how different the ROW's taste in miniatures are from Reaper's western hemisphere backers. Do the European, Australian, and Asian backers go for the large-scale items? Do some regional segments of Reaper's customer base tend to prefer e.g. Chronoscope to fantasy? I mean, a high-dollar fantasy-themed item might make sense in the 'States, but maybe it would be counerproductive in the UK or Korea or whatever.
  15. YronimosW

    Reaper Bones 5 : Enthusiasm and Commentary Thread

    I don't know, looks like that total keeps climbing, so the ROW don't seem too discouraged yet... if at least some of them are like me, they're throwing money at what's already been unlocked rather than what will be unlocked, anyway, so maybe it works out even in the end. Those kid adventurers are great! :) Seems like most of the long-running games I've been involved in have seen high-level adventurers take on a mentor role for a young sidekick, and those kids look like they fit that role exactly. Those townsfolk kids are bound to get a lot of use from me, too: I tend to run horror-themed scenarios, and creepy kids as supporting characters fit right in with those kinds of stories.... The Yokai monsters and boulder-guys look like they'll be a lot of fun, too. There's a lot of other cool stuff going on there - it's great to see a good set of cat-folk at last, the halflings and plague doctors are some great sculpts, I always like townfolk and other NPCs and the selection here is fantastic, I liked the undead giant and trolls but not enough to get them as add-ons, but as part of the core set they're perfect, it's great to see those hooded elf rangers in a variety of poses (I've been using these guys for all sorts of things - hooded cultists, bandits, elves, drow....), the wolves and stick-men and Grave Kings and golems are great monsters, I could certainly use some of these mid-sized dragons more than the larger dragons Reaper usually deals in, and the adventurers as always are welcome: I can't really argue much with a good supply of inexpensive Player-Character and NPC minis. I might have to curate my collection of adventurer models a little better and sell off some extras, but with this sort of variety, I certainly have a good selection to choose the best from.... I'm sure I can still find good uses for the wolves and rats, too. They're good sculpts, though not particularly exciting monsters, but useful, and I never seem to have enough, especially when I need them. Overall, I can't really say I feel like there are any "losers" in the core set or in the newbie-friendly "Dungeon Dwellers" expansion - these work fine for me, and ought to be fantastic for those who missed the first few Kickstarters. A good set of basic, stock, old-favorite minis like that expansion would make a nice gift for a new RPG gamemaster! To be honest, I need more goblins, orcs, and undead like I need a hole in the head: I've got mountains of those, but rarely use more than a fistful at a time in an actual game. Still, these aren't bad sculpts, especially those orcs, so maybe I'll let some of my less favorite mook monsters of these kinds go on auction to clear up some space; and, again, these sorts of old standby-monsters fit nicely with that expansion in the context of a gift for a budding tabletop rpg GM - I may just bundle a bunch of my old extra monsters up for exactly that purpose. I like the bridge with goats a lot even as it seems a bit like an extravagance that I really ought to decline, but the old fight-at-a-bridge-over-a-chasm cliche comes up frequently enough that I think I can justify it in this case. The Mouselings seem like a no-brainer as a gift: seems like the ladies in my gaming group really like them, and at that price, why not? On the other hand... That catapult and the war mammoth seem like great items for "table" top wargaming to bulk up armies with siege engines and such. That's not my thing, but they're great miniatures - I really have to resist the temptation to find excuses to get them anyway. Similarly, I've never run a game that uses dragon-men, but they're nice sculpts, and I know they've been a popular request, so I'm glad to see those as Options for those folks who do want and need them. The fantasy dino-people are the one thing I don't quite understand: I'd be just fine using generic lizard-men for that purpose, so I'm glad to see these are an option, for those who do want and need them. I've got way too many giants and humongous dragons from the previous Kickstarters; I'll be skipping those optional ones, but for those who collect these, or missed the ones from previous sets, these look great. The busts are not my thing, but there were a lot of folks excited about them, and I'm excited for those who have the option to add the dragon bust now! So, all of the stuff I feel kind of ambivalent about is either optional, or makes a great gift for folks who don't do the Kickstarters and/or don't have a miniature budget - perfect! :) Great stuff so far - I can't wait to see what unlocks tomorrow.
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