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  1. I got a shipping notice on my pledge. I ordered the War Elephant, the Cold Steel girls, the Queen, and the Knight Commander... I think I got 2 of the Knight commander... so I can make with both of her head options.

     

    I went with the plastic/ Siocast which is why this has been slightly delayed. Looking forward to getting these, and the Creator is talking about another smaller kickstarter later this year. 

     

    Edit: Just checked Backer Kit... looks like I only ordered one of the Knight Commander... shucks...

     

     

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  2. 38 minutes ago, Knight of the Dinner Table said:

    Solution: Put in a dollar and go for the pledge manager ... 😉


    backed for $1… you sir are evil… 😉

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  3. This is really beautiful... but luckily (unluckily?) I currently lack the funds for it. I had debated dropping out of Bones 6 for this... I guess time will see if I made the right decision. 

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  4. 4 minutes ago, kristof65 said:

    He's referring to the fact that if you spend thousands of dollars in the pledge manager, it doesn't help unlock anything in the initial KS campaign.  

    If the 7600+ of us who already pledged only put the $10 minimum in to lock in a chance at the pledge manager, we'd only be at around $76k.  So it means that people have to pledge hundreds. 

    Ah... well I think that has more to do with the world economy than Reaper... I mean... I spent nearly $1000 on Bones 4... far less on 5... But if I were to do that in 6... It would not be all at once as I have to weigh being able to afford gas for my car... and the kids school, and food vs unlocking stuff... :) So thankfully the pledge manager and being able to add to it there exists... :)

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  5. 12 minutes ago, cawatrooper said:

    One thing I don't like about Kickstarter is how it isn't friendly to a budget.

     

    I bought in almost entirely in Bones V by the end, but I did so in the Pledge Manager over the months after the campaign ended, having only put in a dollar for my initial pledge. So, even though I heavily supported the project, my contributions did almost nothing for the campaign itself. 

     

    Especially frustrating is stuff like Tomb of Hakir. I'd love to see an Egypt set... but if it's just gonna be full price for a third of the set, why back for that? 

     

    I get that there are logistics that rely on this, but the fact remains that not all of us are able to drop hundreds all at once on something like this, especially in today's economy. I hope we see more stuff unlocked soon, because there are definitely some things in Bones 6 I'm still excited for... but man, maybe a different platform would be better for next time?  Any thoughts on what could work better?

    Did something change? Will the pledge manager be different this time? or cant you just do the same thing and wait until the pledge manager again this time?

     

    The Lost tombs... it has been said that either they will just release the whole set if it doesn't fully unlock, or the price will be reduced. 

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  6. 2 minutes ago, Disciple of Sakura said:

    They're NOT breaking apart the Core set for the PM? They have in all the others. That sucks. I absolutely don't care about large chunks of this Core, and I've gotten every other Bones Core because it's been more cost efficient to get one than to get piecemeal the parts I wanted.

     

    From the FAQ

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    Will the Core Set be broken into options like previous KS's?

    Never say never, however at this time there is no plan to break it apart."

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  7. 2 minutes ago, Fnordlover said:

    I dreamt last night that they released another variant of the ant queen for people that don't buy the core. She was on a three inch base and was a cross between the ant queen and the queen from Aliens, with a horrible, slimy ovipositor wrapped around in front of her, halfway through laying an egg. I was very disappointed when I woke up.

    If they had such a queen, AND offered the core set "queen" for individual sale as "warriors" that would be just about perfect. 

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  8. Yeah... I dont really consider the Owlbears an encounter pack when comparing to the encounters in Bones 5. I mean... I guess a single Owlbear could be an encounter for a low level party... but yeah, not really the same category as what we had in 5. 

     

    I could be biased on this too, as I have actually run this encounter... but at a higher level. 

     

     

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  9. I am waffling, but will likely get the Core set. I didnt get the core in Bones 5... after getting 2 core sets in 1-4. I am really only wanting the core this time because they arent breaking it apart... if they did, I likely would not get the core... I wonder if that is also a factor in their decision. The thought that people just wont get the core if they can just buy the pieces that they want.

     

    The one major thing i am missing in this is teh encounters. I thought they were the best part of Bones 5... but we have not had a single encounter and with 4 days, 5? left, it doesnt look like we will get a single one this time. 

     

    There is still more than enough in this Kickstarter for me to keep my pledge... but I will admit, i thought about dropping out and backing Anastyr instead. 

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  10. That dragon is nice... I am definitely getting 1, but if the pledge manager is open for as long as 5 was, i will try and get a couple... maybe even one for each of the 5 guys in my gaming group. The Lich is cool, but i wont likely use him with the dragon. 

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  11. Well... reaper Ron and reaper John keep saying in the comments that the best is yet to come... It does not look like they are in a panic to change how this is going, and the next stretch goal went up to a $45,000 stretch (vs the $40,000 we had been on). So it could be that they are confident that things will pick up with later reveals... or it could be that they are content with a slower/lower overall finish this time. If they have a minimum they want to achieve and are confident they will get there, but at the same time dont want the crazyness that massively overfunding might bring... No idea, just thinking out loud. 

     

    Things I really like so far: Dragon, Pig guys, Crayfish, Ants. (I like the green Griffin set but I dont "like- like it. We are just friends)

    Things I really liked in Bones 5: Pirate Ship, Brinewind, Brinewind extras. Ravenhome, Ghoul encounter. Canons.  The Landsknecht...  I liked the mermaid set but didnt get it. 

     

    This was brought up in the KS comments. But the Landsknecht was my favorite mini from Bones 5... I ended up getting her on ebay. A unit of female landsknechts... (a set of 6) with say options for a drummer and a standard... at $14 would have me instantly drop another $70 for a unit of 30...

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  12. 2 minutes ago, Arkady said:

    What this project really needs to attract all the wronbg kinds of attention is an R-rated Green Griffin Nights expansion...

     

    I already have the Incubus and Succubus sets from bones 5... 😐 why are  you trying to rehash stuff we already have!!! 😝

     

    Though along those lines, (sort of) I wouldnt mind an expansion pack of entertainers... Jugglers, musicians, actors, etc... that might be at the Green Griffin on any given night.

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  13. The giant crayfish is cool. I will proxy it as a giant lobster... If i can get multiple at retail, I will have my party go to an all you can eat giant lobster buffet... where the lobsters rebel and fight back...

     

    There is an all-you can eat lobster buffet in CT (about 6 hours from me... The Nordic. Its $125 per person and a 2 hour limit... My wife says "no!" as it would be $500 to eat with our 2 kids... so I will make my players pay for me not getting to go there!!!

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  14. 11 minutes ago, GoldenPiggy said:

    I'm pretty new here, this being my first Bones Kickstarter, and only painting miniatures for about a year now (unless you count a little painting in my youth, a quarter-century ago), so maybe chalk this idea up to a lack of experience.  But I have been wondering the last few days why Reaper bothers to include a core set at all?  Why not have, say, 8-10 $50 sets, and require every backer to choose at least one (though they can buy as many of them as they want, or all of them, of course)?  They could have several sets with basic figures (orcs/goblins/other humanoids, skeletons/zombies, PC figures, common monsters, etc.) for those who are newer to this and don't have dozens of figures like those at home already.  They could have others that are much more specific (faerie creatures, Egypt, Greece, underwater, etc.), and they could have a set that consists only of strange stuff that is unlike other miniatures out there.  Newbies can collect lots of basic minis without the old-timers complaining about how many zombies they already have, and the people with the big collections already can focus on the stuff they don't have.  There could even be specialized collections: all-chibi (I really don't get the draw of those, honestly, but to each their own...), science fiction, cyberpunk, zombie apocalypse, modern, whatever.  Throw it all in together so everyone helps unlock everything.  Maybe even have a small set of promotional miniatures that everybody gets (from social media promos, number of backers, whatever).

     

    Maybe I am failing to realize something here, but I can see no reason that approach would not work.  And by keeping it all in the same Kickstarter, it keeps the community together, despite our differences. 

     

    Just a thought I wanted to share.  I've been thinking way too much about this Kickstarter the last few days, when I should be working like a responsible adult.


    the thing about the core set is the perceived value. The expansions are great and are usually the better models imho but you don’t get the $/mini value in them that you do with the core set. That core set is very appealing and helps draw people in. And they never require you to buy it. 
     

    if they divided the minis from the core set into $50 expansions, it would still be the same minis offered but at a less attractive price and people would still not have to buy them. So I can’t really see an upside to it and can only see it having prices for the same minis be more expensive. 
     

    Not trying to rain too much on your idea. 

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  15. 10 minutes ago, Cyradis said:

     

    Frost Grave wizards: $2.33/figure. Fireforge $2.33/figure. Greatsword guys $2.33/fig. That's Reaper's price point.

     

    Since when is $2.33/figure expensive? When I was a kid and metal prices were lower, a humanoid figure was probably ~$5. Now that's $7-15 for a general humanoid, depending on quantity of metal. Bones prices at retail are only ~$2.50 for tiny figures like halflings or random bits like jars and crates, otherwise tend to be in the $4-5 range, I think.

     

    If I like the figure, $2.33 is not bad. It just isn't the possible pennies-per-figure of some previous core set offerings.

    That $2.33 is those other companies retail price vs reaper's KS price... meaning after kickstarter the reaper ones are likely to be more expensive... and thos other ones give you 5 times as many options... ( I am being generous as its more like 20 times...) I am not saying the price is horrible... but if the prices are the same (or close to it) then I am going to go with the one that has more options... 

     

    Edit: To be fair as some have pointed out, the reaper guys are larger than Frostgrave (though not really when compared to fireforge) and if that is a concern then that could be worth the extra money to some. Its not a huge concern for me. I am still going to get the reaper ones as I like reaper and am curious... but I still think they are on teh expensive side when compared to the market it seems they are trying to enter.

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  16. 11 minutes ago, Bane Of Humanity said:

    Oh let me tell you somethin...

    Wizkids Frameworks miniatures beats all of those even GW in being the most expensive.  Its kind of sad
    1 set of 5 muilti-part kobolds  $50

    Yeah its discussed a little after what you quoted. $14 for a character... maybe... $50 for 5 orcs (or kobolds) ... no... never. no

     

     

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  17. 3 minutes ago, JoeGKushner said:

     

    Unless things have changed, both the Frost Grave and Fireforge figures are 'true' 28mm while Reaper is Heroic 28mm.

     

    I'd also note that one of the Bones US figures from last month, two months ago? is selling for $5.99.  I think we'll continue to see prices rise.  Current oil issues are not going to cause anyone to suddenly jump up and shout "Damn I've got to decrease prices immediately!"

    Fireforge is heroic 28mm. Their northman and fantasy stuff always was, but they have started making their historical range in that size as well. Frost grave is smaller though. 

     

    and $5.99 is the retail price... these are kickstarter prices. I am comparing kickstarter reaper prices to retail Fireforge and Frostgrave... So presumably the reaper multipart guys will be more expensive outside of kickstarter.

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  18. 1 minute ago, Goddesstio said:

    Reaper is the cheapest on all of those except the middle one? And only by $4 there. 

    You get 3 heads (x2) and 4 sets of arms though. Those others give you like 20 heads and many more weapon options. The amount of stuff you get is vastly different. 

    3 minutes ago, amuller33 said:

    Wizkids Frameworks are $15 for singles and $50 for a pack of 5... granted they seem to be coming in way too high. IMy Local FLGS asked me If I wanted to preorder a "quick pick" for $700 I think I disturbed a few MTG games when i  cackled NO WAY MAN 

    Yeah... I am not sure what they were thinking with 5 orcs for $50... The $15 for a single,... maybe... 5 orcs for $50... no thanks

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  19. 1 minute ago, Inarah said:

     

    Come now. The forum has always been a place where we can discuss what we like or don't like and why. Nobody here is saying "this sucks, don't support it".  A lot of us are underwhelmed and are hoping for something more interesting.   The minis market is changing and Reaper has a lot more competition these days.  It's not like it was ~10 years ago when Bones1 came out and wowed everyone.  If we're reduced to only saying "nice" things we might as well not have a discussion at all. 

     

     

     

    I agree with this. Unless you are coming on and telling people "dont back this, or dont support this" then saying what you like or dislike helps reaper to know what worked or didnt so they cant do things different in the future. Though there was a guy on the comments of KS doing that... someone said it was the guy "Tupperware" from bones 5 with a different name...

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  20. So from a price point... I think the reaper multi-part guys are kind of expensive. 

     

    The 6 multipart figures for $14. Not a horrible price, but if we compare to other places.

     

    Frost Grave wizards 2. 8 multi-part figures for $22 so 3 sets (24 figures) is $66. 4 sets of reaper (24 figures) is $56...

    Fireforge Northmen. 12 Multipart for $24. 2 sets of reaper (12 figures) is $28

    GW Greatswords 10 multipart for $50. 3 sets (30 figures) is $150... 5 sets of reaper (30 figures) are $70...

     

    So other than GW, the Reaper guys are more expensive... or close to the same price but with far less options. 

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  21. 17 minutes ago, ManvsMini said:

     

    I'd be down for some of those on that wishlist. The Green Griffin is really the only thing that interests me in this thus far, I like having bar/tavern scenes in my adventures. But I'm on the fence as I'm not sure I want to wait 2 years for it when I can probably get something comparable from a 3d print vendor. It's quite a dilemma. It'll just be a $10 pledge for now until I make up my mind.

     

    Get it. In the mean time you can get the other tavern set you want and use immediately. Have in your game the players get to know the bar/tavern you bought. Have it become familiar in all your campaigns to the point that they consider it a second home (for their murder hobos).  In 2 years when you receive this one, set up a Cobra Kai style rival bar open up across the street. Then you can uses both sets and have them have meaning. At $50 over 2 years... thats less then $2 a month. Just cut back that $2 on your gaming budget every month and it will have paid for itself. 

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  22. So... I know the Green Griffin is not for everyone, but I like it. Its definitely on my list. I hope we get an expansion to it like the brinewind extras, 

    My wishlist for it would be

     

    * Stools for the bar for patrons who wish to sit at the bar.

    * More food choices for the tables. Bread, chicken, etc...

    * female patrons, both standing and sitting. A female adventuring group at rest (no weapons in hand) or with drinks in hand

    * A male serving wench

    * A female Bartender

    * A dog to lay in front of the fire place

    * So rowdy patrons/Thugs startin' trouble

    * Some bouncers and a cooler. The Bouncers are nice (until its time not to be nice... but they wont know when that is, the cooler will let them know.)

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