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  1. I took a stab at tracking down the painters. I didn't find/remember all of them, though. (I did some searches here, on CMON and through Google for the ones I couldn't find through the store, but I guess my searchfu is weak tonight.) Magnus, Wizard of Hope – credited to StudioPFS in the gallery http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Special%20Edition%20Figures/sku-down/01402 Artist Sophie - ? I can see the thumbnail on the Special Editions page, but it doesn’t come up when I look at just that figure. http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Special%20Edition%20Figures/sku-down/01509 Pirate Mousling – I can’t find this one on the store site at all Bourbon Street Sophie – I believe this is Maya Morland (Valloa) http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Special%20Edition%20Figures/sku-down/01503 Adventure Sophie – Anne Foerster http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Special%20Edition%20Figures/sku-down/01514 Sci Fi Sophie – I’m not having any luck finding the painter of this one http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Special%20Edition%20Figures/sku-down/01504 Reclining Sophie – Pretty sure this is the one by Liliana Troy http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Special%20Edition%20Figures/sku-down/01501 Pin-Up Sophie – I’m not finding the painter for this one, either http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/Special%20Edition%20Figures/sku-down/01505 Western Sophie – I can’t find this one in the store, but I know I painted it. (Rhonda Bender) Gen Con promo – likewise, I can’t find this one in the store, but I painted it Thanks Rhonda. Most of the ones I remembered were the ones you mentioned, but there were a few I had forgotten. I didn't know you did the Western Sophie, nice job on it! Does anyone happen to know who did the barbarian and pirate mouse?
  2. The design team felt that cluttering up the 12 days graphic with all 12 product names, numbers, sculptors, and painters was not attractive. You'll note it doesn't list part numbers or sculptors, even. I am highly unlikely to go back and add just the painters without all of that other information, too. Not to mention that for some of the pieces I do not have a painter credit available to reference. At this time, yes, those 2 are available only on their designated day. I am not aware of a return of the stocking. We have filled the space that we used in October to make and store ghoul bags with Bones II fulfillment items, and since we have all but one shipment here, don't have the kind of space we need to execute such a thing. Pity, I don't recognize several of the paintjobs and wanted to know who did them without having to search though each figure on the forum.
  3. Hi Bryan, I see that the special edition miniature release graphic credits the painters for that release but the Twelve Days of Reaper graphic doesn't. Would it be possible to add the names of the painters so we can who painted those models?
  4. He said that he is broke and does not have the money to cast them "for a while". That is the difference between CMoN and Heresy.
  5. I would steer clear of this dragon until he has filled the 214 backorders. He is currently averaging 17 dragons every two months and at this rate it will take 26 months to clear the 214 fully paid backorders. You can see his discussion on why he can not fulfill the backorders on the Forum of Doom.
  6. I like your take on the Valloa figure. :)
  7. Julie Guthrie Saturday 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. Conversions: Sculpting Hands Is this one no longer happening?
  8. A jailers keychain with dangling keys. Maya~
  9. Here's hoping for a speedy recovery cause hospitals suck. Get well soon!
  10. I heard what I heard, if they didn't end up judging they sure as heck felt they were and there is no leyway for misinterpreting what was said, who said it and when it was said. That said, you did illustrate exactly one of my most important points with "Laszlo and I helped make a second cut of six entries. Two of those second-cut entries happened to be Laszlo's and mine (I thought his was worthy, he thought mine was), so then we reclused ourselves and two other judges stepped in." Neither of you should have been making any judging cuts at that point. You shouldn't even have been a judge at that point, if you were a contestant. That illustrates exactly my point and why people were complaining about unfairness. From what you just wrote it sounds like "I scratched his back, he scratched mine" and we both passed our miniatures through. Perception is everything.
  11. No, I heard what I heard when I heard it and they were two judges. Saturday morning at 11am both my father and I were in the same room as the Chicago painters and one of the female judges asked Derek how late he was up Friday night judging and Derek answered that he was up until 11pm. Obviously this is before entries closed at 12. So obviously, judging was done before all the entries were in since the deadline was 12. Now, even if they judged in different batches, the Sophies were STILL decided before 12 noon. Damage control at my expense is a bit late at this point. There was no misunderstandings and YES what I heard did happen both times. I could have asked about this in a crowded room (which was everywhere saturday). That would surely have made a public relations nightmare for Reaper. Personally, I think most of the staff at Reaper are stellar people and it is my favorite miniature company, but there are aspects of ReaperCon that were just plain wrong. Don't you dare try to "explain" away something that actually happened when you were not there at the expense of my reputation. I would not have brought this up here, except Anne said in her first post to discuss anything here, she shouldn't have asked if all she wanted was fuzzy cuddly comments and should not have opened the door to suggesting by complainers should have accepted everything that happened. After her post, there was no reason to have things like this in private PMs because guess what... The same things will keep happening that way. Sometimes those in charge see only see what they want to see and are blind to other things, especially when those things come at them in the form of complaints. They actually are baffled as to why people don't see events like they do. That is the time when they have to stand back and say, "If this many people are saying the same thing, the I am not looking at this correctly because something must be wrong and I'm not seeing it." That is the time that they need to listen closely to the people who spend money at events like ReaperCon because they can go somewhere else. If they can't be objective, then they need to step aside and have someone else look at it. Just because they think a concept, rule or contest structure is good, doesn't mean the majority will if there are problems. They need not take it personally and fix the problem. If its the format, fix it. If its the judges, fix it. If it is the prize structure, fix it. If its the person in charge, fix it.
  12. No, 100% sure it wasn't you. It was Saturday, well before the entries they were still allowing to come in, were closed. And since you aren't female, not you. So nope 300%it was not you. :) Believe me, this conversation couldn't be mistaken with anyone "rooting" for anyone. It was pretty specific in what it was. Plus I wasn't at the Con at that time on Friday. I was trying not to die in a coughing fit in the hotel room. So absolutely not a chance it was you.
  13. I understand your concerns, I really do - but you seem to be proposing an outright ban, instead of offering up suggestions of other ways to deal with the problem. Actually I proposed an "only for" category way back in my first posts so they could still compete, but fairly.
  14. Ditto, see above post made while you posted this <G>
  15. Maya, if you don't like the system then don't participate. That simple. Go ahead and send that to everyone who complained about the contest, then lets see how low the bottom line of sales works for Reaper. Really, you should be very careful, you are not a Reaper employee and there are VERY valid complaints out there for a reason. If you feel the need to defend your wins, no one has said anything or gives a crap. But that is how you are coming across. One of the things I found very irritating at the con was the manner in which your friends were bugging everyone who would listen about how much you *needed* to win to boost your ego AND your Ebay sales. This after overhearing the judges was two of the things that did make me wish I hadn't come since it left me with a bad taste in my mouth about Reapercon. Except for the business I needed to attend to, the painting contest was an afterthought for me, but doesn't excuse the unprofessional-ism. Just because 2 people acted unprofessionally you are going to damn the entire competition? Yep, because these two people were JUDGES and it ruined the entire competition by making it grossly unfair as well as unprofessional. Think on that for a bit. If they weren't judges I would have ignored it and moved on. Would you take your car into a garage to be fixed, find out a couple of the people acted unprofessionally and replaced good parts with used parts. You had heard people complain about the garage and found out that these people did the majority of repair after your car broke down. The quality of work coming out of there was just like your car. Would you damn the entire garage and not go back? Sensible people would. I'm not going to answer anymore of your posts Meg. It's obvious you can't grasp what I am saying and I'm pretty much talking to air. I'm wasting bandwidth responding to stuff I already answered.
  16. Wow...ok. What are the odds, especially with as small a place and attendance as Reaper.. you get two people pretending to be judges, talking about their choices to award awards to, then talking with other volunteers, at the table, in the room about the best time to close it down for the next group to judge... don't you think the other volunteers in the room would have immediately stopped that. They were, after all, less than three feet away. Solid proof is if you show me a copy of your archaeology degree. You say you have one, but I have no solid proof that you do. I can show you mine and that would be solid proof. The point you are saying here is reliability. You are implying that I am not reliable, therefore you are implying that I am not being honest. I have no reason to say something so unsavory and I truly wish I had not overheard the conversation. By overhearing it, I will be forever thinking of this with any contest associated with Reaper. How many judges were there at Reapercon? Anne knows exactly who was there and exactly who was judging the Trophies.
  17. Anne already knows. And for anyone thinking its the "'Elephant in the room" I also put it on my survey which I turned in Saturday before the awards were ever announced. I couldn't get anyone alone and saying "Hey you have a major judging problem!!!" in the front hall of a crowded convention would not have done Reaper any favors. And style, I answered those questions and directed to examples in an earlier post. The point here is... prejudging is not fair. NO ONE, no matter how good, can win a contest where you have prejudging bias. This is assuming, of course, the judges even bother to look at your miniature after they have decided on the winners. If you come in near the end of the deadline, well sucks to be you. No matter how good, you're not winning! You don't have to identify a contract painter. The judges should be independent and not able to tell who painted what. If you are friendly or look at a lot of miniatures, you know who painted what and personal opinions come into play with the best of people. It is impossible to be fully impartial if you know a particular person painted a particular miniature. What I see as a major problem with staff painters is... there were two Sophies on Reapers front page with paint jobs done for Reaper. These were in the contest and surprise...got trophies. Whether this was because the paint job was good or the judges felt reaper needed to see them get an award is moot. They shouldn't have been there. Reaper commissioned them, they shouldn't have been there. For the comment that you'd have less people enter if anyone with a Reaper affiliation was not allowed to enter, I believe is incorrect. You will have more because the problems with unfairness or perceived unfairness will not be there. Why do you think there is a law that says, people can not enter contests if they or someone in their family works for the company that sponsoring the contest? Read the fine print of any corporation run contest, such as Coke, Publishers Clearing House, HGTV, and so on. This came out of the rigged game shows of the 50s. No matter how good the system, this will still happen, thus the law.
  18. Yep they were. They were talking to each other one said "I have chosen the three I am voting to give the trophies to", the other said "I have only chosen two" Then the conversation turned to when they needed to close the room so the other judges could come in and judge. Yes, I think it is safe to say they were judges. The valid point is that they did not speak about the entries they liked. They pre-picked winners and then talked about having pre-picked winners while entries were still coming in. Pre-picking is a nono anyway you slice it.
  19. Yes that is a valid point about the judges speaking openly and like that. It shouldn't have happened. Hopefully it won't again. Which is the valid point that shouldn't happen again? The prejudging or the judges speaking openly about prejudging. I think neither should be happening again.
  20. Elephant in the room.. Heh, as I told one of the sculptors, I entered and expected to get nothing,b ecause I do not paint in the style they like. The contest was not my primary reason for attending, but I did garner two bronzes. It was those comments from the judges in the display room that ticked me off. There is nothing fair about prejudging anyone's work when the entries have no even closed. It is totally unprofessional to blab it in full volume where anyone could overhear. No wonder people were complaining about how it was run. Most people would not complain at all because they will be entering next year. I don't have that problem. I never had. If there is an injustice that I see, then it should be righted. Yes, I was homeschooled and at 12 I was a docent at the Alabama Department of History, leading tours in three galleries, hosting monthly speaker events and was a full-time on a dig under the mentorship of two archaeologists. At 13 I won a grant from the Endowment for the Humanities to conduct and publish my own research. At 14 I wrote a chapter for the archaeologists to be included in the digs final publications and at 15 I was asked by a third archaeologist to write a chapter that would be included in another historical digs final publication. At 12 I was not just a helper for running events, I was doing my own at that age. They ranged from small groups of a hundred to several thousand for Tae Kwon Do tournaments. Just like time doesn't equal quality, age doesn't give experience. :)
  21. So what you are saying here is that either they should go with a competition based contest OR an open system only? That there is no way the two can exist side by side? There is no way they can exist side by side when you have judges making their picks and saying they have decided on the trophy winners before entry taking is even closed. But it was misleading to tell public that this was to be the open concept where it is based against a standard but not that the standard was for one style only. The original complaints are getting lost here. They were "pros winning". By "pro" in this case it is people who paint for Reaper or paint-jobs Reaper commissioned where before all of Reapers staff and commissioned painters had their own category, which was fair in most entrants eyes. "The unfairness". Means you need independent people judging. It kills any question of unfairness and frankly, Reaper staff, contract painters entering, judges entering and judging and winning, all of this comes across as unfair no matter how you slice it or how well intentioned, or how many safeguards are there. It will never come across any other way. And for gods sake, have your judges, independent or not, NOT discuss their already made up choices in the hallway, or crowded display room while you are still taking entries. Unprofessional and unfair.
  22. I agree with number 1. IF you kill the trophy part of the contest. OR have a plain ordinary contest. It is hard to change peoples minds when they have observed and overhead a lot of things that should not have happened.
  23. Emphasis mine - Maya, you're kind of shooting yourself in the foot here. You're arguing for more objectiveness, while apparently unable to be objective yourself. If different styles should be able to compete objectively, how can one be better than another? Why am I shooting myself in the foot, I'm not a judge. :) If asked to judge I would not, because I could recognize too many peoples work to be objective. That is the point. Different styles SHOULD be able to compete objectively, THAT is the thought behind the open system. Something that is not working here because there is no objectivity. The open system works because it has no true competitiveness to it. Having an open system PLUS a "true" contest embedded in it, defeats the entire concept of an open contest.
  24. So what happens the next year then Maya? You can't use those same judges and you have to find new ones. What happens when there's no one left? Saying that you don't have to know how to paint in order to appreciate good paint jobs--sure to a degree though and then the painting wouldn't be the thing getting judged it would be another version of CoolMiniorNot just in person. There is already a format for that kind of format--just go to their website and enter their competitions. Reaper is different and trying to bring a different format to the fantasy/sci fi miniature arena. If this happened I would not take Reaper Con seriously at all. Urm...you do what true art contests and most form of creative contests do...you get other people. Unless the world ends, you are not going to run out of judges!! No, it would not be another version of CMoN because you have a set group of educated people judging each time. Reapers form of "different" is what people are saying they don't like in the complaints. If you look at the complaints, there are already people NOT taking the Reaper Con contest seriously at all.
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