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  1. does anyone know,,,willl we get a Casketworks in our bones shipments?

    If I remember correctly, it was said that, no, there wouldn't be. The cost to produce that many, as well as the time and effort to put them in, would be prohibitive.

  2. I got:

     

    -- Vampire x1

    -- Nethyrmaul x1

    -- Kaladrax Reborn x1

     

    It's easy because it's only those 3 things, but it's a difficult order because it's got 2 of the larger guys. So, I'm in the middle of the process, probably, even though I don't know where that leaves me in the list....

  3. I still haven't decided what I am going to do yet, but I had another really interesting thought, if I'm able to make some skin up, what would you all think about if I was able to put some tubing/wiring in the stomach area and have it look like it's guts are hanging out a little bit? Would make it a bit more grotesque, but I think it might give a little more detail to the inside of it... Should I try it?

  4. When I paint units or groups of the same types of guys, I pick a theme, and even though I change things between guys, the theme stays the same.

     

    For instance, I'll use the 40k Orks I'm painting for someone right now. The Ork flesh is the same mixture on all of them. Now, each one gets similar colors for cloth and weapons, but I interchange the colors between all of them. One might have a brownish color shirt with tan pants, and brown boots, but another may have a red shirt, tan pants and brown boots. Next one will have a tan shirt, red pants, and black boots, etc, etc, etc. The reason for this is I want them to all go together well, but I don't want too many of them looking the same. Best part about it is that I can go through and pick out parts of the minis I want the red on, and paint all of the red in at the same time. Then do the same for the tan, then do the same for the brown, then the black, and it actually speeds the painting process up some. And, I can be random about the colors as well.

     

    i don't know why, but I don't like seeing a unit of 5 guys that are all painted up exactly the same. Variety is the spice of life, no? :)

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    I doubt that people will mind if you ship early.

     

    Ron

    See, we had angry responses during the KS to Stretch goals that were free minis. Hey, here ya go, with this next goal, we'll raise the money to give you free stuff! and people complained. They complained because it wasn't the right free stuff for what they themselves personally had the most use for.

     

    I no longer have faith that we can do *anything* that somebody won't complain about.

     

     

    I've always felt that there are people out there who could win the lottery to the tune of $10 million and still complain. Don't worry, though, I think there are plenty of people, like myself, who are still excitedly looking forward to the minis, delays or not!

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  6. One of the great things about manufacturing nowadays is that, for the most part, you can schedule out in advance when you get your products, and other companies can come in and deliver those products exactly when you need them. They only deliver when you need them, so you don't have to have the entire supply of products on hand before you need them, saving you storage space and money. When it works, it works so well that you don't notice that it's a different model than having all of the product on hand at all times. A lot of companies operate this way, because it's the most efficient, and it can even save the consumer money by reducing prices of the products.

     

    Now, that being said, there are side affects to this as well, like what we are seeing from this shipment that's in customs. If there is any delay at all, it causes the whole shebang to grind to a halt. I've seen this happen on so many levels, from parts being delivered to an auto assembly plant to roofing materials being delivered to my house. Had customs not taken their jolly good ole time with it, we'd never have noticed the process that's going on behind the scenes. This is the nature of manufacturing in this day and age, like it or not.

     

    I think we've been spoiled with having things instantly appear that we want, from digital music you can listen to the moment you purchase it to streaming movies, and it insulates us from having to deal with things when they don't go as quickly as we'd hoped. If you don't get your movie streaming instantly, you call your ISP, or Netflix, or Hulu and have them fix the problem, then you have it 10 minutes later.

     

    So, being disappointed that you don't have your minis is understandable. I'm disappointed as well. But, temper your feelings when it comes to being "pissed". If your Bones miniatures are running later than you had hoped, and that's the worst thing that's happening to you right now, take a step back and take a moment to appreciate that your problems are minor and that you have the ability to not only be disappointed that you haven't gotten a bunch of plastic, but that you actually had the financial ability to purchase it in the first place without taking food off of your table. Find a little perspective, because there are a lot of people in this world that would love to be able to say that their worst disappointment in their life for the past few months was that some miniatures didn't show up on time. That doesn't mean that Reaper is off the hook, or that they don't have to send your minis to you as fast as they can, or that your disappointment isn't justified, it just means that no matter how you look at it, you're lucky that you even had the chance to get them in the first place.

     

    I apologize if that comes across the wrong way. I'm not trying to marginalize anybody's feelings. To be honest though, I know that there's going to be someone else who comes on here later ranting that they weren't first, or that their stuff isn't in yet, or whatever, and that the above words will have no impact, but maybe, hopefully, those words can at least help someone reduce some of that stress their putting on themselves about the situation.

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    Example: When we shipped our first box, we announced that it was to a person named Cindy A from Ohio. Within hours, multiple people commented that we were shipping in alphabetical order, and that was unfair as their last names started with W, T or Z.

     

    Isn't this actually an example of someone jumping to conclusions because the official update on KS about shipping starting and the order of shipping didn't show up until after small tidbit were thrown up on facebook and the reaper forum? If the update on KS had come first instead of a day later wouldn't it have perhaps headed off these complaints?

     

    My first thought would be to say, no, it wouldn't. There are a lot of people out there that complain just to complain. They could have been the first person to get their stuff and they would have complained. Unfortunately, there are many out there that you just can't please no matter how you try.

     

    Reaper: Thanks for the update! While it's not the best of news for those of us with add ons, you can't control what the US customs does. Hopefully they realize the error of holding the shipment up, release it, and that Kaladrax and Nethymaul are in that shipment :)

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    Once you add anything to the basic vampire set the box probably goes up a size. A extra set of storm giants or an set of the optional mind your manors are the same approximate size so the distinction seems strange. The distinction makes perfect sense in the idea that all the minis in the vampire sets where done and shipped first then the additional mini options are arriving later. Maybe they are all sitting in containers around the warehouse but they should have shipped the pure vampire sets way earlier instead of having them sit around the warehouse for a month waiting on what?

     

    End of the day we can complain all we want but they already have our money so they know as long as we like the minis when we do finally get them then we will forget the slow delivery by the time we think we are done with these 240 minis and need more.

     

    I do not think that a daily counter and weekly few line update is to much to ask.

     

    For Example:

    Shipped: 9235 of 18000 Orders

    Currently Shipping: Vampire+Vampire Extras+Paint Sets+Cases

     

    Takes about 10 seconds.

     

    Nymerias has it right. The only issue with this is that if someone saw 9235 orders out of 18000 shipped by day 10, then said, "well, that means they are shipping around 923 orders a day". They get into the larger orders, and all of a sudden, they only had 53 sent out in one day and only take the total up to 9288, because of the added complexity and the changeover of boxes and such. All of a sudden, you have 8712 people upset because they didn't send out 923 on that day. Also, that 10 seconds that you mention is only the time that it takes POST a message about it, that's not including the amount of time it takes to actually calculate how many were done. Even if they are doing scans or punching in numbers, somebody has to sit down and actually go through and determine what was sent out or what was boxed up, and that takes time as well. As much as I'd love to know where I am on the list to get stuff, I'd rather them take that extra time to figure out where I am at and actually just get it sent out quicker. If them not updating us every day telling us where they are means I get my pledge 3 days sooner, then I'd rather not make them update me. Considering there's somebody on the kickstarter bashing the minis already, you know there are going to be people who flip out because as the complexity ramps up, the shipping slows down. Of course, for some reason, the person who was complaining about the material for the minis on the kickstarter comments appears to me to sound like a plant from another company attempting to make people second guess their Bones purchase (it just seemed way too scripted of a rant).

     

    But we are not at day 10 here, we are on day like 70 since the vampire sets arrived. I doubt that they are able to maintain 1000 shipped per day but if they fall down to 53 regardless of complexity for more than a single day except way near the end when they are shipping out thousand dollar orders they are not devoting the proper attention to the shipping. They have know that they were going need to ship out 18000 orders for 6 months. Give 2 months at 5 days a week minus 1 week for reapercon you have 35 shipping days. So to get it done in that time you need to average 500 shipments a day. The last 1000 might be pretty time comsuming so you better have made good progress when you could have earlier.

     

    I was annoyed at the idea of May but I have heard discussion about it dragging all the way into middle of June now. That is getting pretty late for something that was supposed to be shipped in March.

     

    Well, from the sounds of it, they are working diligently to keep the pace up. I do agree, a headsup that they are shipping again and approximately where they are at would be nice, but, in the end, they are only going to be able to go as fast as they can go. As a company, they would be utterly braindead to not get these out as quickly as humanely possible without breaking the bank trying to hire someone in to come in to help them, so I would say that they are going to do what they need to do to get it done. Getting upset about their pace, or even that they haven't updated recently, doesn't really do anybody any good (not saying you're upset, just saying it across the board). And, I know you're probably sick of hearing it, but the "supposed to be shipped in March" was actually "estimated to be shipped in March", which is just another way of saying "We hope we can ship in March, but don't be surprised if we can't". Several thousand people already have their stuff, so it's not like they even really missed March, because they did start shipping in March. Wasn't there a saying once that went something along the lines of "Good things come to those who wait?"

     

    If you're having a hard time waiting, find something else to pass the time until you get the email. Personally, I like the wait, because it gives me a chance to get caught up on painting for other people that I have to do. I need 240+ more minis to paint right now like I need another hole in the head, and this is giving me the time I need to get other stuff painted.

  9. Once you add anything to the basic vampire set the box probably goes up a size. A extra set of storm giants or an set of the optional mind your manors are the same approximate size so the distinction seems strange. The distinction makes perfect sense in the idea that all the minis in the vampire sets where done and shipped first then the additional mini options are arriving later. Maybe they are all sitting in containers around the warehouse but they should have shipped the pure vampire sets way earlier instead of having them sit around the warehouse for a month waiting on what?

     

    End of the day we can complain all we want but they already have our money so they know as long as we like the minis when we do finally get them then we will forget the slow delivery by the time we think we are done with these 240 minis and need more.

     

    I do not think that a daily counter and weekly few line update is to much to ask.

     

    For Example:

    Shipped: 9235 of 18000 Orders

    Currently Shipping: Vampire+Vampire Extras+Paint Sets+Cases

     

    Takes about 10 seconds.

     

    Nymerias has it right. The only issue with this is that if someone saw 9235 orders out of 18000 shipped by day 10, then said, "well, that means they are shipping around 923 orders a day". They get into the larger orders, and all of a sudden, they only had 53 sent out in one day and only take the total up to 9288, because of the added complexity and the changeover of boxes and such. All of a sudden, you have 8712 people upset because they didn't send out 923 on that day. Also, that 10 seconds that you mention is only the time that it takes POST a message about it, that's not including the amount of time it takes to actually calculate how many were done. Even if they are doing scans or punching in numbers, somebody has to sit down and actually go through and determine what was sent out or what was boxed up, and that takes time as well. As much as I'd love to know where I am on the list to get stuff, I'd rather them take that extra time to figure out where I am at and actually just get it sent out quicker. If them not updating us every day telling us where they are means I get my pledge 3 days sooner, then I'd rather not make them update me. Considering there's somebody on the kickstarter bashing the minis already, you know there are going to be people who flip out because as the complexity ramps up, the shipping slows down. Of course, for some reason, the person who was complaining about the material for the minis on the kickstarter comments appears to me to sound like a plant from another company attempting to make people second guess their Bones purchase (it just seemed way too scripted of a rant).

  10. I actually regret kissing the girl, what a terrible mess that ended up as. I am also kinda regreting realising I could have opted out of the t-shirt and maybe added a Kaly to the mix. I don't need a Nethy. I bet he smells pretty bad, but Kaly is all bone now, so he shouldn't have the stench of decay about him.

     

    My Kaladrax is going to get some sort of decayed skin added to him.... For some reason I must enjoy that smell, because these won't even be my first undead dragons! lol

  11. I'm just glad that I've got stuff I'm painting for other people to keep me busy until my Vampire + Kaladrax + Nethyrmaul arrive! 60+ 40k Orks plus 2 vehicles should keep me busy until then.... Not to mention the Privateer Press minis for my own collection that are still sitting in a drawer waiting for paint so they can go on display with the other painted ones. Too bad I painted my KS Sophie UL two days after I got it LOL Man, I just realized with the fact I have two huge shelves of Privateer Press stuff, and two more of Dropzone Commander minis, I don't know if I'm going to have enough room to display the two dragons and all of the Vampire minis that I'm going to want to display!!! Looks like I'm going to have to buy another set of shelves!!

  12. Hmmm.... Thanks, Kay, I may try to using that technique. I'm still researching it, as the last thing I want to do is pick a technique that I'm not comfortable with and screw Kaladrax up. Guess I could try on the metal undead dragon from Reaper I have sitting on my desk at work!

  13. Vallejo also has liquid greenstuff.

     

    The liquid stuff is really for filling holes, stippling for rust or dirt effects, or use for advanced stuff. It slips around a lot, so maybe not great for somebody who is looking for a more basic method.

     

    The paper mache thing isn't a bad idea, but there's a product somewhere between that and the paper towel/glue method, that works great for this sort of thing. I used to use it to make big patches of fleshy stuff for a rather nasty D&D game I was running. When it dries, it looks like strips of flesh. Trouble is, I can't remember what it's called at the moment.

     

    I'll go look for the book I originally found it in, and come back and post it in just a bit.

    Yeah, I've got liquid green stuff, and I can't even do simple sculpting with it. I can paint pretty good, but sculpting....

     

    i thought they had re-sculpted those areas with texture, no?

    I had thought they said something along those lines, but I couldn't specifically find the post about it. I hope so. Maybe one of the first people who get it can post something about it, because that would be awesome of I don't have to try to sculpt it myself!

     

     

     

    You may find this fellow's videos useful.

     

    The Auld Grump

    Thanks Auld, I'll have to sit down and watch through those when I get a free moment

     

    Thanks for the replies everybody. This will give me some stuff to think about before my shipment comes in :)

  14. So, I know no one has probably gotten Kaladrax yet, but I was thinking about how I am going to be painting mine up when I get it. I noticed that the preview still has the plastic filling in the chest cavity between the ribs, with nothing really covering it up, and it got me thinking that I may want to add on some decayed skin to make it look like it more recently died, and to cover the underlying plastic. Now, my question is, how would you add skin to it? I'm not all that good at sculpting, so I don't think I would be able to get too good of a looking skin if I were to try to use modelling putty. I thought of maybe doing a cloth and coating it in glue to get it to harden and then priming and painting it, but I don't know if that would look too... fake? I also thought about cutting out some of the blister plastic into shapes and then using a heat gun to kind of melt it into place, but didn't know if that would harm the Bones plastic...

     

    Anybody have any ideas?

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