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Edit: After this thread was started, and after I wrote the post below, Torn Armor have announced that they are looking at working with Reaper to have their kickstarter minis produced although nothing definate has been announced as to a timeframe or what other changes there might be. So Torn Armor have announced that their miniatures fulfilment portion from their kickstarter is dead. No miniatures for anyone. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/alyssafaden/torn-armor/posts/726991?at=BAh7CDoMcG9zdF9pZGkDzxcLSSIIdWlkBjoGRVRpAxViJ0kiC2V4cGlyeQY7BlRJIhgyMDE0LTAyLTIzIDAyOjIwOjA0BjsGVA%3D%3D--70a9498682ea4cdd9aa695aecc5713692f6481a3#comments In a nutshell, their plans with a manufacturer in China fell through and so instead went with an American company instead. Unfortunately the company they gave all the money earmarked for miniature production to was Tony Reidy and Defiance games. Now Tony has taken Torn Armor's money and is not going to provide them with any minis. This is something he is known for. I'm not going to say much more here, as I enjoy being a part of the community on Reapers forums and don't want to overstep their rules for posting. But I will say that Tony Reidy and his companies have a very infamous history in the miniatures hobby and I can't believe that the people behind Torn Armor went to him. The best thing I can say about that situation is that it was very naive and something that a google search or just searching news sites should have easily avoided. I am peeved at Torn Armor for making such an uninformed decision. Bye bye monies.