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  1. I have been wanting to build tree bases of several trees each for use at home. (Conventions will probably require individual trees for transport reasons.). I finally got around to starting a few test bases today. This one is approximately done, and uses a base with some extra scenic materials started at a workshop at Gencon last year. The next two are in progress. I need to paint the rocks, add some flock, and then glue down the trees. While I would expect that 10-15 bases will be wanted for at-home gaming, three will have to do for now, and should feature in the current digression project, an attempt to paint/build everything new for a small-ish skirmish game.
  2. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/chriskrenn/woodland-tribe?ref=discovery_category_newest Story WOODLAND TRIBE is a 3D miniature Kickstarter that includes a collection of 3D printable characters ready to tell their story on your tabletop role playing or war game. The high-resolution, high-detail level in each and every one of the figures make them stand perfectly as miniature sculpts on your gaming table or scaled up as huge collectibles for display. We worked really hard from the very beginning of each concept to the final 3D ready-to-print model in order to create the very best product for you to have fun printing, painting and using it in your favorite game! As you will for sure enjoy your favourite WOODLAND TRIBE sculpt and its creating process, we are absolutely convinced that it will definitely be the jaw-dropping item on the table! The story: The Woodland Tribe were known for their tool trade. Their druids would listen to the land and feel for where an Elkin had fallen, mythical beasts whose antlers grant strange and wondrous powers to those that know how to unlock their secrets. The Woodland Tribe were makers of the finest wares in all the land. They supplied blacksmiths with the handles for their hammers, stocks for hunters rifles, shafts for archers arrows, poles for fisherman. The owners of these tools prized their belongings above all others for they never broke and gave them a sense of well-being. Then disagreement broke out among the council of druids and the delicate harmony between the tribes, maintained for a thousand years, was broken, and the world wept. The sky broke, and torrential rains fell for a month straight. The lands were divided and war broke out. Now each tribe fights to protect their land and families, their homes and livelihoods. Instead of tools of trade the Woodland Tribe now makes weapons of war, and they do not share. Hanola - Druid in Training Hanola feels the fury of the storm, the raging river, and the roaring fire in her bones and channels that when she goes to war. But a druid must also find peace. Maybe if there’s an end to the tribe wars she’ll find that too. Alliar - Reckless Batter Alliar used to play Pineball and was her team’s star hitter. That was before the tribe wars took her husband. Now she still hits, but instead of scoring goals she racks up kills. Gha’Rook - Heaving Golliath The Rooks have always been seen as beasts of burden, but when the tribe wars began they quickly became living siege weapons. Gha’Rook breaks all manner of things; walls, skulls, backs, arms, legs, hopes, and a few dreams too. Lithilla - Shadow Spear Lithilla stalks the shadows, looking for easy prey. The weak and old, the unwary. The last things her victims know is her spear piercing them in the back. Lachial - Holder of Fate The pool Lachial watches over is said to hold visions of the past, the future, but never the present. To see the present one need look anywhere but her waters. <Removed - nudity> Grosteppa - Hacking Thespian No one in the Woodland Tribe knows where Grosteppa came from. He was a dancer, in another life, but now his frenzied moves no longer bring cheers and applause but the sound of breaking bones and splashing blood. Sial - Hacking Razor Before the tribe wars, Sial made handles for the razors barbers used. Now she wields a razor made from a Krezok claw, and she cuts throats, not hair. Sestan - Beast Tamer While the Woodland Tribe’s druids locate fallen Elkin, it’s the beast tamers that go out and collect the horns. Sestan had only worked a year collecting horns before the wars broke out and she longs for a day when she can go back to the way things were. Gnalk - Woodland Elder Gnalk was trained as a druid in his youth, but the land began to reject him once he passed the trial of adulthood. The woodlands sensed an inferno of anger deep within Gnalk and would no longer heed his call. Gnalk did the unthinkable and trained himself to be a blacksmith. Now with druidic knowledge and trained as a blacksmith, Gnalk has become the leader of the Woodland Tribe. Now the land has once again begun to listen to him, knowing a strong leader is the only way the wars will end. Nesk - Eyes of the Eagle Brother to Rarl, Nesk once sipped waters from a stream not far from Lachial’s pool. Now Nesk sees more than most and his keen vision grants him the ability to throw his spear with incredible accuracy. Rarl - Arms of Stone Rarl, brother of Nesk, is unable to speak. Years ago his tongue was cut from his mouth when he spoke out against Gnalk being made leader of the Woodland Tribe. No one knew the nature of their dispute, but now Rarl is fiercely loyal to Gnalk. The Stag King Bones Giant Walnta - Breaking Beast The Woodland Tribe trained Walntas for generations to carry their wares to neighboring lands. The massive beasts understand basic speech and are typically gentle, but the Woodland Tribe knows how to change that. The druids mix a concoction of water pulled from Lachial’s pool and the visions of past and future drive the Walntas into a rage. 1 inch LED base to for epic minis
  3. I've been waiting to post this until I have enough, but I've just been working on random pieces of scatter terrain in between other projects. Any 3D printed parts are done on my Creality Ender 3. Trees from EC3D . Trees from Dark Realms Barrel, +3 Barrel of Sundering (Warhammer props) Wood bundle, Alchemist's Table and Shelf from Vae Victis, I've honestly forgotten who the other designs were from. "The beacons are lit! Gondor calls for aid!" Beacon Tower from RMPrintables Lounge Chair from Impact! Miniatures, awning from Warhammer, weapon pile from The Hobbit, treasure piles from Reaper Miniatures. Fantasy Objective Tokens by PhysUdo on Thingiverse. Ogre Totem from Warhammer, Town Fountain 3D print from unknown, Alchemist's Wares & Firestick Bundle from Vae Victis, Sandbags by MegaBlox, one tree/odd plant is an old Marauder Giant club and the other is from a Gandalf action figure.
  4. Just before everything shut down, I ordered a Hot Wire Foam Factory kit, and picked up a few easy-to-handle 2x2 foot sections of one-inch pink board. The first warm day, I took it outside and cut a couple of trial hills: I have an FLG game mat lining my gaming table, and I hoped that the usual Woodland Scenics flock would be suitable in color. Unfortunately, with the first hill I tried flocking, I found that I had misplaced my reserve flock supply, and that I did not have any lighter green. Nevertheless, it looked close enough for gaming, so I ordered more flock. The second hill, a dedicated corner piece for my small table, was delayed until the flock arrived, but got an an attempt at a more mottled appearance. With yesterday’s remote game, I finally had a chance to open the table (which has been functioning mostly as my partner’s work-from-home space) and try the hill in the corner. I think that’s close enough for gaming, so that’s probably what I’ll be going forward with.
  5. Another simple piece printed on my Ender-3, "The Smoking Hut" from Hobgoblin3D. I picked it up during the recent Humble Bundle. Definitely a prime spot to hit up for any adventurer heading back into town.
  6. "We gotta climb all that way up just to go get water? The ancients were mad!" Well of Souls, part of the Place of Power series from EC3D Design. Printed, as usual, on my Creality Ender 3.
  7. After a painting hiatus of a couple of weeks, I sat down this morning and finished off this SOLID resin building from Apocalypse Miniatures. As best I can tell, the roofing is supposed to be sawn sections of log, but, as with some of my previous buildings, I don’t necessarily want the roof to be faded to a gray indistinguishable from the stone work, so it’s a “wargame conventional brown”. So, the village progresses. This is #3 of 10 of what I got in the Apocalypse Kickstarter, and 4 of 12 of the resin building upgrade project (with Tabletop World providing the other two). I hope to have them on the table in a battle soon.
  8. My most recent finished piece of terrain is a Viking Brewery, a promotional item from Lovecraft Designs and printed on an Ender-3.
  9. "Get ye Oiles of Snake within!" 3D printed Potion Shop by DNk85 on Thingiverse.
  10. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/625262290/3d-printable-fantasy-ruins?ref=discovery_category_newest Story Here is my collection of fantasy ruins the can be 3D printed for tabletop games. The pledges will be delivered as STL files for you to print on your home 3D Printer. Disclaimer: i do not own a 3d printer yet so i have not test printed these models, if you find any error let me know and i will sort out the meshes for you. All models have been checked for errors in mesh-mixer and a couple of them will need to be sliced to fit onto smaller build plates some of them already fit onto a 300 x 300 mm plate.
  11. I haven’t really been getting a lot of painting done, but I sat down at my painting desk the other day and noticed that I had two buildings sitting over in one corner, neglected for a couple of months, and decided to start adding paint. This one is from Apocalypse Miniatures. They ran a Kickstarter back in 2017, and my brother and I both ended up backing this. In my case, I backed it to the extent of 10 buildings, of which this is the second I have finished. The first was back in November. In general, this wasn’t too bad to paint. The little detail bits molded into the base look nice in the pictures, but I would really prefer that they were not sculpted in; it detracts from the flexibility of the building somewhat. Sizewise, these are a little small for Reaper figures, and are probably intended for a 28mm scale (e.g. Metal Magic, mid-period Citadel, later Ral Partha), but that’s always negotiable when deploying scenery. This building is a SOLID block of resin, so the game will be played around it rather than through it, and I would as soon buildings in that mode be a bit underscale anyway. When I say solid, I put it on my kitchen scale, and it’s just a bit over two pounds (935g for those in countries with sensible measurement systems). You wouldn’t want to drop it on your toe. As for the building name, that’s how it is spelled on their web site...
  12. Recently completed: The Shipwreck 3D printed from the Kickstarter set Depths of Savage Atoll, by EC3D Designs.
  13. Wire Tree Scratch Built The Twist One Friday evening as we played Batman: Talisman I twisted a tree to life. Formed from 13 strands of wire of approximately 12-inches in length, the tree takes shape by folding them in half and twisting the loop created into the trunk of the tree. The loop created is cut into the roots and the longer tendrils are twisted into limbs and branches to form the crown of the tree. As you can see in the picture, I used one of my Armstrong sample tiles to make a base for the roots and glued it in place with some Loctite Gel Glue. The idea is to form irregular surfaces to cover and create the illusion of a real trunk, roots and limbs. The crown will kind of solve itself when the canopy is applied later. The Ground and Bark Once you have a "skeleton" for the tree, it's time to add the skin. To do this there are a number of ways. You can use liquid latex. You can apply green putty or green stuff. I chose to do the super glue and baking soda method. You've probably seen my work with this insta-cure method before on Frulla Krung and other Frost Giants. I use super thin, insta-cure cyanoacrylate (super glue) that allows it to run well over the wires and base and then coat that with the baking soda. The squeeze bottle, shown in the background, allows me to apply it as a wind blown sediment or just to dust it over the glue. The opposite can be done where you make a pile of baking soda or fill the crevice you want covered and apply the super glue carefully so you don't get an impact crater. Of course, maybe you want impact craters. As you can see above, the effect is quite "chilling." Be careful of fumes. It's still super glue. And super-thin super glue runs everywhere so I suggest putting down something you don't care about. I use box lids. The Crown Once you have the coating applied to your liking, it's time to finalize the branches and make the crown. Here's where random is your friend. Twist the strands into limbs and then twist off the limbs into branches. You can create burls and broken limb ends by adding sharp turns with your pliers. In this case, I left the crown relatively open. It's a small, young tree after all. You can see another much older tree in the works behind it below. Our specimen is primed as well. I added curlicues at the ends of the branches to eat some excess wire and for extra hook points for the canopy. The Canopy The next step after this is to paint the trunk. I used a pair of FolkArt Pickling Washes to achieve this. The first was a dark gray, FolkArt Stormy Sky. To add body to the paint in order to help fill some of the wire gaps, I mixed in some Liquitex Matte Medium. Once the basecoat was applied. I drybrushed the trunk, roots and limbs with FolkArt Cottage White Pickling Wash mixed with some of the Stormy Sky mixture. This gave me a nice light ashen color to the bark. The canopy is made from Woodland Scenics Tree Canopy Green and Yellow mixed with essentially some static grass I got off of Wish. I mixed them into my Hamilton Beech Grinder and ground them down further. You'll prolly have noted that there are some wires visibly still. This has been noted. I ran out of mixed canopy. I will be making another batch shortly to finish it. I used a spritz bottle of glue from Dollar Tree to apply the canopy. It worked really well. Once it was set, I used my favorite finish coat to solidify the canopy, Testors Dullcote. What's Left That's where it's at as of now. As to next, I will be doing a wash of the canopy to add shading to the tree. That will carry down the trunk and roots. Then I will apply an umber paint to the ground and a mixture of cork and bark, ground down in my grinder, over that. Stay tuned, Stay Well and Enjoy
  14. So with the big confrontation coming for my group this Friday, I’ve been busily prepping some terrain to go along with the portal I posted up last week. some crystal formations (wish I had hollowed them). Done with mostly clear resin, though there was a little red left in the tank. Based. Used green painters tape to fill the gap in the bases. I may regret this... Bases have been prepped with some Vallejo texture paste. You may notice a large surprise for my guys who is going to interrupt their encounter with the Drow. His wings are printing right now. Thanks for looking.
  15. Story Who knows what the future holds whether it be a nuclear war or the planets dying climate times are going to change so get stuck in while you can to the near future and beyond with some unique terrain and scenery setups from steampunk styles western towns to container towns and military buildings, along with a selection of vehicles. we are going back for this KS to stretch goals as it makes it easier for me to keep you updated with the goings-on, but rest assured you will AGAIN be getting plenty of value for your dollars/pounds, I have kept this one very affordable. I will be asking for your input for the stretch goals so we can adapt this KS to suit you the gamer's needs as we go so list your thoughts and ideas in the comments and maybe I can make them appear here. so let's see what you are fetting and remember this is just the starter stuff more will be added as we go here is the link to the past apocalypse KS that you get full access to if you back that level https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wowbuildings/apocalypse-wow Ok, so what do you get? all of the following is included in the basic £40 backing CONTAINER TOWN 10 building set is made from 3 types of shipping containers and vehicle shells STEAMPUNK STYLE WILD WESTERN TOWN 8 building set, a mix of wooden wild west buildings and metal plating 3 VEHICLE SET cars from the now adapted for the future CURVED HABITATS 2 building set MILITARY OUTPOST BUILDING SET £1000 STRETCH GOAL DRILL RIG £1500 STRETCH GOAL EXCAVATOR £2000 STRETCH GOAL PUNK TRAIN (wip) £2500 STRETCH GOAL VEHICLE SET 2 (wip) these two shells will make the two additional vehicles this one will be a police car of some kind big engine and exhausts for this one £3000 STRETCH GOAL BUILD YOUR OWN £3500 STRETCH GOAL £4000 STRETCH GOAL £4500 STRETCH GOAL TBA the container town files in all kit form, build you own setups add the detail you want where you want it £5000 STRETCH GOAL BIG TRUCK VEHICLE
  16. Coming in March. "3D printable STL files for RPG / wargaming - support-free minis, terrain, and vehicles for your Scifi and Cyberpunk game tables." https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ecaroth/the-ignis-quadrant-3d-printable-tabletop-models?fbclid=IwAR1Qe9ssykZnV46G-nOv7it4jq_Flry7L4Fufx8_wFOl_-AkRt8Poj8eesQ
  17. Here's a rundown on how I make quick, cheap trees for tabletop games. For well under $10 you can have 3 clumps of good looking terrain using commonly available materials. What you need: - glue, white and cyanocrylic (Super Glue) - 50mm round bases - sand, gravel, or kitty litter - craft paints - craft brushes - wire cutters - flock - plastic flowers from a hobby craft store, commonly called "stems" or a "bush" if there is clump of them. Look for something more or less tree like, with branches. This example is covered with clumps of foam. They come in various colors depending on the time of year. Step one consists of separating each stem of flowers from the clump, discarding the leaves. Leave the "flower" part attached to the wire stems. Use wire cutters to trim stems to about 4" long. Coil each wire tightly so that it fits on your 50mm base. Bend and shape each stem so that you can fit 2 or 3 stems on each base. Use Super Glue to attach firmly. Step two: sand and paint. The sand helps cover up the wires, and adds a little weight for stability. It looks best if you paint the base and wires, then glue down sand or gravel (let it dry) and paint a 2nd time. This gives you good coverage on the base, and on the sand. Step three: flock and details. I already added gravel to make large stones, but you can add more if you want a rocky look. It sticks best if you glue to the sand before adding flock. Cover the base with white glue and then apply flocking of your choice. Now you can add finer details like grass tufts, flowers, leaves, or colored flock. I added orange flock to enhance the autumn theme. My final step was to give the bright grey rocks a little brown wash to make them look more natural.
  18. I was cleaning up behind my barn and found this half-buried in the dirt. Was just on the way to throwing it out when I just couldn't. So I washed most of the dirt off, and cut a base from scrap plywood I had, and away I go! I actually have a semi-solid plan. I want to knock this one out fast, first of all, so maybe it'll get done this year (ideally before spring or even March, but I know how things go). I want it to evoke a few things without quite indicating any of them. The Tyrell building from Blade Runner is a big one. The magitek factory from Final Fantasy VI is another. But I also want to maintain that primitive temple look--like a Mayan or Aztek pyramid--which the shape itself lends to. I also want it to appear as though it's either been abandoned or nearly so, and nature has started to retake it. So lots of pipes and vines and gears (see my initial bits pile) and maybe a surprise if I can keep motivated... Let me know what you think! Ha, also noticed my little Narshe cottage in the background--it's nearly complete as far as building. That'll be for another topic though!
  19. Since I’m getting close to finishing my trike and mechs I want to try to get some.....bigger projects finished that have been languishing in the U.F.O. (Unfinished Objects) Status for some time now. Here are the ones I’ll be focusing on. The bridge. With a 28mm figure for comparison. Now fo the other more ambitious pieces. This is going to be a modular fortress. So far I have only two pieces based. Once again more 28mm figures for scale. And my most ambitious project. It will only be used on a 6x6 area most likely. Multiple paths allow access to the top of the mountain. And the top can be removed allowing for battles inside of the mountain. Thanks for looking!
  20. I got this fake bonsai at a dollar store for a couple of dollars. Pulled it out of the small vase with rock and styrofoam, trimmed the trunk that was below "ground" and then stuck it on a yogurt lid. I put paper towel down for some texture and modgepodged it with brown and various greens. I still intend to flock it a bit. I may also stick it on a cd (hence the waiting to flock). But for now it's playable. I never took process pics. Oops. Maybe more to come. MSP bottle for rough scale (about 3"high by 6" span).
  21. Finished this a few days ago. One thing I have to say. I've looked at a lot of people's online before doing mine. And not to be rude but I don't like any of theirs. Nobody seemed to try and do a theme to the rocks that location wise made more sense for the fossilized dinosaur on its back. Lots of people made gems and all kinds of other things. You wouldn't find those things around fossil remains. So this was my attempt to have something more surreal and actually include the fossils better and since I collect museum quality fossils apart from painting minis. I've seen enough to try my hand at what it would look like more on an excavation site. :)
  22. I got my caverns terrain, and... Wow! Cave Cliff Pack, Natural Bridge, stairway to violence, stone banks pack, and webbed lair adventure pack. Apparently a tote is still coming? And I already got texture patches. Things are currently getting scrubbed.
  23. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stonehavenmini/pop-up-fantasy-settings-kit-vol-ii?ref=discovery&term=miniatures Story I love pop-ups. It never fails to surprise me when a pop-up unfolds into 3D space from seeming nothingness. I hope you guys will have some of the fun that I had when I got to put these together. These kits are part miniature model, part 3d puzzle, and all paper-craft! As you build them, you'll be guided by the instructions and labels found in the kit, and also full instructional walk-through videos where I build them with you step-by-step. I put a lot of work into making sure these designs would work consistently and look good. It makes me happy every time I see them! These pop-ups are a great way to fill your table up with neat working terrain that doesn't break the bank and is easy to carry around and store. This time around, we are only offering the digital files. That being said, these files are designed to be printed on both A4 and American standard 8.5 x 11 inch letter-sized paper. All of the files (at least those that are completed at the end of the Kickstarter, including the first 5 settings) will be made available to all backers as soon as the Kickstarter funds are distributed to us (Usually within 2 weeks of the project end date). After printing, the pages will look something like this: You'll need additional supplies such as a hobby knife, double-sided tape, and backing material in order to assemble your pop-ups. Once you put them together, you will be able to combine them into fantastic miniature worlds! Our initial funding goal will cover the design of the first five settings and one flat terrain peice. These will include the Mageboat, the Market Square, the Traveler's Wagon, the Castle Wall, Charlie's Castle, and the Mysterious Grate Flat Hex. Mageboat The Mageboat is a watercraft designed to be steered and propelled by magical means. At a 28mm scale it would measure 50 feet from bow to stern. Take your adventures to the high seas with this sturdy vessel! Market Square At the Market Square, you can find food, drink, weapons, and a host of other curios. This is probably where that stolen painting wound up, now coated in a thick layer of dust, after nearly 2 decades. Traveler's Wagon The travelers are the continent's most prolific traders, and are always a welcome sight. But this cart seems to have been left unattended. Its team of horses and usual occupants are mysteriously missing. It was probably the giant ants. Again. Yes . . . that was what happened. Castle Wall The castle wall is the perfect place to hatch a "storming the castle" plot. All you need is a wheelbarrow and a holocaust robe. You probably already have both! Print out and assemble 6 copies of the castle wall and you'll have yourself a stronghold! Charlie's Castle Charlie's castle is a very small castle (more of a fort really) that is mostly used as a customs checkpoint these days. It's fortunate that you adventurers came along, you can clear out the tribe of goblins that have set up camp within its walls. Mysterious Grate Flat Hex Not technically a pop-up, this hex tile provides some space for your characters to cross on their way to somewhere else. Because is it really a journey if no one journeys? Also, what's going on with that mysterious ground hole? We are excited about making as many pop-up settings as we can to be included in this kit! That's why we are going to keep adding more stretch goals as these ones are met. Our current plan is that every additional thousand dollars pledged to the kickstarter adds a setting to the digital kit! CORRUPTED SHRINE: $3000 Stretch Goal This shrine honors the great philosophers and scientific minds that together founded the Elipsiconian council. Unfortunately, the shrine has lately become the site of several unexplained deaths. It's up to you to discover it's dark secrets! (This setting is a redesign using the basic structure of the Gazebo from our previous Pop-up Kickstarter.) WATERFRONT FLAT HEX (Unpictured): $4000 Stretch Goal This flat hex serves as a transition from land to water. Here you can fish, swim, and relax as you prepare to head back into the nearby ruins. LONE TOWER (Unpictured): $5000 Stretch Goal This lonely tower is where the orcish sniper is holed up, shooting hapless travelers as they move along the nearby roadway. You guys should head up there and make sure he (OR SHE! Petra asks why it couldn't be a female orcish sniper. Girls can be snipers too!) is stopped. As we reach these goals, more will be added to the kickstarter. We already have some pretty awesome stuff planned, but we also want your suggestions for the terrain you'd like to see in the set! We are excited to get these pop-up files completed and have them in your hands so you can make them too! Risks and challenges Because the focus of this kickstarter is the creation of digital files, there will be very little that can go wrong. That being said, we could get sick or something. That could cause some delays. As with all digital files, backers might have difficulty opening and printing .pdf files on their end. We will do everything we can to ensure that backers can access and use the files from this kickstarter to make some awesome pop-ups.
  24. I did this one a while ago. My first attempt to recreate the painted version on the packaging. I'm just missing the foliage. This was super fun! :D
  25. I’ve struggled with a good marble in the past. There is room for improvement but it’s finally looking like marble. For anyone trying to learn this technique, start with green marble. It seems to be more forgiving.
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