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kristof65 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 OK fellow vets, I have need of some opinions. No, No, not those opinions! As I've mentioned before, I'm building a T-Trak module (a N-scale train module) that portrays part of a military base, specifically a near future one that will use CAVs. The idea is that the rails on the front of the module travel are for a commuter train that passes just along the base edge (another module will be the station near the base entrance). Anywho...I'm waffling on whether or not there should be some sort of visual barrier between the train tracks and the military buildings beyond, and if there is, what sort of barrier that should be. Some of the options I've considered are: - a tall concrete wall, probably topped by barbwire. Probably the easiest to do, but not sure it's very realistic. - a berm, topped by a chain link/barb wire fence. Realistic, as in I've seen berms like this around Air Force bases, but takes up a lot of useful real estate on the module. - Multi-level, with the tracks at a lower level than the base. Downside of this would mean I'd have to do similar for ALL my modules pertaining to the "base". - don't worry about a visual barrier, make it a chain link fence, and who cares if the commuters gliding by on the train see all the CAVs. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezler the Polychromatic Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 3 minutes ago, kristof65 said: OK fellow vets, I have need of some opinions. No, No, not those opinions! As I've mentioned before, I'm building a T-Trak module (a N-scale train module) that portrays part of a military base, specifically a near future one that will use CAVs. The idea is that the rails on the front of the module travel are for a commuter train that passes just along the base edge (another module will be the station near the base entrance). Anywho...I'm waffling on whether or not there should be some sort of visual barrier between the train tracks and the military buildings beyond, and if there is, what sort of barrier that should be. Some of the options I've considered are: - a tall concrete wall, probably topped by barbwire. Probably the easiest to do, but not sure it's very realistic. - a berm, topped by a chain link/barb wire fence. Realistic, as in I've seen berms like this around Air Force bases, but takes up a lot of useful real estate on the module. - Multi-level, with the tracks at a lower level than the base. Downside of this would mean I'd have to do similar for ALL my modules pertaining to the "base". - don't worry about a visual barrier, make it a chain link fence, and who cares if the commuters gliding by on the train see all the CAVs. Robots. It should definitely be a line of robots. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Eyed Monsty Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 40 minutes ago, kristof65 said: OK fellow vets, I have need of some opinions. No, No, not those opinions! As I've mentioned before, I'm building a T-Trak module (a N-scale train module) that portrays part of a military base, specifically a near future one that will use CAVs. The idea is that the rails on the front of the module travel are for a commuter train that passes just along the base edge (another module will be the station near the base entrance). Anywho...I'm waffling on whether or not there should be some sort of visual barrier between the train tracks and the military buildings beyond, and if there is, what sort of barrier that should be. Some of the options I've considered are: - a tall concrete wall, probably topped by barbwire. Probably the easiest to do, but not sure it's very realistic. - a berm, topped by a chain link/barb wire fence. Realistic, as in I've seen berms like this around Air Force bases, but takes up a lot of useful real estate on the module. - Multi-level, with the tracks at a lower level than the base. Downside of this would mean I'd have to do similar for ALL my modules pertaining to the "base". - don't worry about a visual barrier, make it a chain link fence, and who cares if the commuters gliding by on the train see all the CAVs. National Guard Armory in Carson City is located near a State Prison and has a large number of armored vehicles. Everything is behind the same sort of chain link fencing topped with razor wire as perimeter security for both facilities. I would do a suggestion of a berm, not to scale [skinny and tall ratio] but just enough to suggest a berm, or possibly k rail, with Chain Link and Razor Wire on top. Chain Link fencing should be available for N Scale and you will probably be able to find scale razor wire from the same source. For embellishment, make the area of the fence brightly lit with obvious surveillance cameras, maybe old, and slightly funky, Quonset Huts in the background and your CAV Units in between, possibly with one or two undergoing heavy maintenance. You don't need to model the full quonset huts just the end facing the CAV Units and enough depth to suggest they continue on past the edge of the module on the back side. GEM Edited February 18 by Green Eyed Monsty So Many Tentacles 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TGP Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 5 hours ago, kristof65 said: - don't worry about a visual barrier, make it a chain link fence, and who cares if the commuters gliding by on the train see all the CAVs. This is what ^ Carswell AFB had when it was a SAC base. (Back in the B-36, B-52, B-58 era). It is now a Joint Navy/Air Force Reserve base. NFW. The B-52s live at Barksdale now. (Way too small to read at your scale, but the chain link fence had little signs that read, “Government owned contractor operated facility — no cameras or photographs allowed.”) Edited February 18 by TGP 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Chaoswolf Posted February 18 Author Moderator Share Posted February 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, kristof65 said: OK fellow vets, I have need of some opinions. No, No, not those opinions! As I've mentioned before, I'm building a T-Trak module (a N-scale train module) that portrays part of a military base, specifically a near future one that will use CAVs. The idea is that the rails on the front of the module travel are for a commuter train that passes just along the base edge (another module will be the station near the base entrance). Anywho...I'm waffling on whether or not there should be some sort of visual barrier between the train tracks and the military buildings beyond, and if there is, what sort of barrier that should be. Some of the options I've considered are: - a tall concrete wall, probably topped by barbwire. Probably the easiest to do, but not sure it's very realistic. - a berm, topped by a chain link/barb wire fence. Realistic, as in I've seen berms like this around Air Force bases, but takes up a lot of useful real estate on the module. - Multi-level, with the tracks at a lower level than the base. Downside of this would mean I'd have to do similar for ALL my modules pertaining to the "base". - don't worry about a visual barrier, make it a chain link fence, and who cares if the commuters gliding by on the train see all the CAVs. I think @Green Eyed Monsty threw out some pretty good suggestions; he pretty much said what I was thinking. I understand that this is a modeling project, but do you have any background/fluff in mind for this? Like are CAVs well known, or would they be new and Top Secret, so that civilians wouldn't know about them? The submarine base in Groton, Ct. where I was stationed actually has a train that runs right through part of the base. Anything that the Navy doesn't want people to see is either a great distance away from that train, inside a brick building, or both. The only thing separating the train from the base is chain link fences. Pretty much every base I've ever been on is just surrounded by chain link fencing, usually with either barbed or razor wire along the top of it, so if you wanted to just go with that, it would actually be fairly realistic. Edited February 18 by Chaoswolf 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGP Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, kristof65 said: - a tall concrete wall, probably topped by barbwire. Probably the easiest to do, but not sure it's very realistic. It’s plenty realistic. A wall like this got built around a single building (Building 500) that was solely dedicated to the now Defunct A-12 navy bomber program. That building had no windows. There was nothing to be seen but there was a wall next to the public roads. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarah Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 3 hours ago, kristof65 said: - a tall concrete wall, probably topped by barbwire. Probably the easiest to do, but not sure it's very realistic. - a berm, topped by a chain link/barb wire fence. Realistic, as in I've seen berms like this around Air Force bases, but takes up a lot of useful real estate on the module. - Multi-level, with the tracks at a lower level than the base. Downside of this would mean I'd have to do similar for ALL my modules pertaining to the "base". - don't worry about a visual barrier, make it a chain link fence, and who cares if the commuters gliding by on the train see all the CAVs. Tall concrete would be realistic. That's what we have at the local place, where they used to build Navy fighter jet engines and components for nuclear weapons. The wall is at least 10ft tall. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGP Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 This is Barksdale AFB Note fence in foreground. @kristof 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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