CreganTur Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 What about including an empty bag marked as items for review? Anything like low-quality 3d prints or severely broken items could be placed in this bag. When the box gets back to the start, the recipient can review the bag and trash items that don't meet standards. This gives people the option of still looking through these items if they wish. Some people may feel items within are good quality and return them to the general box, and some may not put anything inside. It does allow some level of quality control. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattParody Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) I like the mantra that if it's too miscast for you then it's too miscast for the BoGW. That being said, a badly scaled mini is different than one that is printed with missing and melted bits and bobs. But I don't have a 3D printer, so I feel my skin in this game is minimal just wanted my opinion out there. "No PLA spaghetti" Edited January 13 by MattParody 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Chaoswolf Posted January 19 Moderator Share Posted January 19 Everyone's opinion is welcome. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmaster2000 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Sorry all for not being around much lately, lots of Real life stuff going on the last few months, so much so I've questioned what the hell im doing anymore. Anywho, those who know me know I've been into the 3D printing of both FDM and Resin for well over 2 years now so I have a middling opinion of the subject. My interest is not just as a hobbyist, but I am actively making this a business endeavor, so I strive to make the best possible print I can. So, some of my thoughts and opinions are coming from this viewpoint. First, I think one of the biggest things everyone may be missing is just not the 3D print itself, but what the STL file you start with is. There are some really great sculptors out there that know what they are doing and know what to avoid to make a great print, and then there are some model designs I see that are just crap and have no thought how the model will print or hold up in daily use. This is the biggest thing I look for after the inital style of the model. You would not believe how many kickstarters/patreons I pass over because the designs are so poor or look great in the model, but (as many have mentioned already) just have pieces modeled too thin that they don't even hold up support removal. Second, the quality of the Resin and FDM printers are not only affordable but the quality is really great, even off a printer like the mars 2 pro from Elegoo. They hold detail well, and it allows prints that you may never see on the market. Third, and this applies to ALL materials a mini is made in, not just 3D printed, If it's delicate or thin, PROTECT IT! Have you seen what these carriers (especially USPS) do with your package? I know personally, because I was one for a time. Speaking on FDM, this is not the material for 28mm mini's. Yes, you can get decent bones 1 level quality, but in my opinion , it takes longer then it would on a resin printer (I could do a whole plate of skeletons, which is almost 12-14 if I arrange it right) and the quality if better off the resin printer. Honestly, I have only one set of mini's I print on FDM because the creator designed them for FDM, and they look good, and they are my go to when I am trying to use up a spool of filament. But each skeleton honestly takes over an hour to print, whereas I could fill a whole plate on resin and get better quality and less print time. What FDM is great for is functional prints and in our realm, Terrain! I take a whole bunch of printed terrain to our convention in Los Angeles (collectively know as STRATEGICON, 3 conventions a year, Orccon is this president's day), 2 27 gallon tubs and sell out almost every time. Just terrain or other FDM printed items like mugs. Want to do your own terrain, get a neptune series printer from Elegoo. Don't discount 3D printed mini's out, if designed and printed right, they are on par with most other materials on the market. BTW, if anyone plans to come to Orccon this president's day weekend, I'll be locked in the Dealer room at Ratmaster's house of anime and stuff table with my good friend who runs Line of Sight terrain. Come by and say hi! 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Chaoswolf Posted February 9 Moderator Share Posted February 9 Thanks for the insight! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polgy Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 After reading through some of the comments here, I've gained a lot of insight regarding people's trepidations with printed figures. -- I dont have any friends or coworkers that use 3D printers, so I'm limited to my own habits in my perspective. I use materials that I'm realizing I'm very lucky to be able to afford. It really has surprised me that so many people use materials that aren't suited for making playable figures. A lot of people seem to be opting for the lowest price resin, or just using FDM for its low price entry level. I wish better materials were more available for everyone at affordable prices so no one would have to make these kinds of concessions. -- The quality of retail available miniatures varies wildly, even from the same manufacturer. Its true even for statuette artisans that have single figures priced at the same value as a 4090. Because of this, I don't believe it's possible to fairly exclude 3d printed figures of any quality level without it becoming a double standard in some people's eyes. While a pewter hobbit from the 80s is charming to some, it's seen as rotten luck if you're treating the box-of-goodwill as a gacha. -- My veiw on the BODW is that it's meant as a way for someone to donate unwanted models and figures. I think that's also the healthiest way of viewing it, but I'm observing from the perspective of someone more privileged in what I can invest in this hobby. If there's a way to positively change people's veiw of the BOGW so its not seen as a lottery and no one feels badly after taking part, then that would be the area that effort should be put towards for improvement, as opposed to trying to more heavily regulate what people choose to give. If regulation is the path forward, outside of reviewing every single box, which would cost thousands of dallars to pay someone to do, I don't have a clear solution without depending on volunteer work. -- This is mostly opinion that I've written here, but maybe sharing my thoughts will help promote positive discussion? Here's to hoping! 🍻 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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