rowdymon Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Ok, went out today and got a Nikon CoolPix 4100, good little camera... But this thing shows flaws that I'm having problems seeing with my nekkid eye... *grumble* I don't know how y'all do such perfect paint jobs.... Well, lets start from the beginning... Here are a few that I painted in the months before discovering the wealth of information about mini's on the web...before thinning paints...They are going to be simple green'd and done over....probably after I go through the other 80 or so mini's I've got to paint... This one I didn't even realize the leg detail until now that I've now sealed...*sigh* I think I need some new eyes. And now go on to my WIP, well one of them anyways...here's my complaint...The paint keeps chipping off for what seems to be no reason. This mini has been handled only on the unpained blades, thus far...yet it seems the paint wants to chip off it's frickin annoying... Here's what I'm talking about... and a front view So at this point I've figured out that my eyes are bad, and I can't figure out why the new paint isn't sticking to the model well... Suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Tam Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 What are you using for a primer? That may be part of the problem. LT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durak Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Primer would be my first guess like Lady Tam said. Humidity could also be another factor. Does your primer tend to flake off or bubble up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdymon Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 These were done in GW black primer, this set didn't flake, powder or bubble...however some other's did....expecially with white. I've got one I've primed with automotive silver primer...I'll have to see if that works worth a crap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durak Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 You might want to give testors flat gray primer a go. Some of those GW primers aren't worth the can they are put in. Others swear by their primers, me I have had nothing but problems with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Tam Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 I actually use a gray spray primer, and it does well for me. And Primer problems would be my first guess. I never have much luck with white primer, andnever tried black, yet. LT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Tam Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 By the way, I love how the camera really gets up close and personal with the mini. By far superior to my own 35mm. LT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdymon Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 By the way, I love how the camera really gets up close and personal with the mini. By far superior to my own 35mm.LT Laugh...I was shopping for this camera for about three hours today...I thought the salesguy was going to LOOSE HIS MIND. He was starting to get frustrated with me I could tell...*laugh* The Cool Pix were the only camera's under $300 that could get close enough to satisfy my personal taste. And since this camera will be used almost exclusively for Macro Photography, well so be it. I just need to play with the lighting and camera settings to get some better pics... I may start painting on the one I did in automotive primer, just to see what goes on, I thought primer might be the cluprit...and that's why I'm going to bug Jester at the conference to show me how he does his...Somewhere around hee I've got plans for an airbrush booth that evacuates the fumes out a window, so you can paint/primer inside, where the humidity in an area like Houston, where it's rare for us to drop below 50%, doesn't really come into account...since the AC system removes humidty from the air.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichabod Crane Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Regarding the paint chipping off mysteriously ... do you wash and dry them before you prime them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdymon Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 Yeah...washed in a mild soap/water combo with a toothbrush, then rinsed in water... the other I did is worse....any edge of the cloak is showing primer...just rubs off down to the primer...I figured if the primer was bad though....it would rub off down the bare metal...no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwyksilver Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 How long are your minis sitting waiting to be painted after you prime them? The issue could just be dust has settled onto your mini and thus, the paint isn't even bonding to the primer, but to the coating of dust. I try not to keep too many primed minis sitting around because then it just wastes the effort of having spent the time prepping it so well, to turn around and have your primer coat now being a mess because of a light dusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdymon Posted September 16, 2004 Author Share Posted September 16, 2004 How long are your minis sitting waiting to be painted after you prime them? The issue could just be dust has settled onto your mini and thus, the paint isn't even bonding to the primer, but to the coating of dust. I try not to keep too many primed minis sitting around because then it just wastes the effort of having spent the time prepping it so well, to turn around and have your primer coat now being a mess because of a light dusting. Not something I had considered...these probably sat for two months in a nuts/bolts holder before painting. Is there a way to remove the dust them before painting or is it pretty much a lost cause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixminis Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 I, too, have a tendency to prep & prime waaay too many minis. I use one or more of these methods to "dust" them Compressed Air 1/2" brush Wash 'em gently The washing is a last resort... and I've only had to do it a few times. I also have a few boxes that I store prepped figs in and that's an even better way to do it.... don't let 'em get dusty!! Rgds, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwyksilver Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 If you have access to an air compressor (or canned air for cleaning a keyboard) and blow it off. Or use the nylon brush or a buffing pad on a Dremel. I've also just quickly placed it under some cool running water. Let it dry (often with a little hair dryer on low heat help) and gone from there. Water shouldn't hurt the primer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errex Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 But this thing shows flaws that I'm having problems seeing with my nekkid eye... *grumble* I don't know how y'all do such perfect paint jobs.... Precisely. Part of the whole operation consists on snapping some pics after each painting session (well, not EVERYTIME, but often). That way it is easier to spot the places that need to be retouched, and what effects are working and what not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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