Proxie Hell

[airhead]

Nathaniel & Spartan,

 

I think that you both have the spirit of the proxie down:

 

"elf archer = elf archer"

 

"templar knight = crusader grunt" (historically true?) Sword & Shield = grunt, 2-handed swords = unforgiven, pole arms = breakers, etc.

 

or in my case "skeleton = skeleton grunt", skeleton with bow = skeleton archer, etc.

 

Order (or make) a bunch of square bases and play.

 

The only place that I am aware of REQUIRING the CORRECT mini is major Reaper run tournaments. I am running a smaller tourney next month. As the game is still new, we are expecting lots of proxie. (may have to put some sticky tabs on the bases or something) Unless I hear word from "on high" we are going to play and have fun.

 

Yes, I can rule lawyer with the best of them, but would rather play, show off this neat "new" game and have a good time. As a BL, I thought that is what my job was.

 

Spartan, why not slap some paint on some standard grunts and save them for the "no-proxie" games? Use the others the rest of the time.

[ReaperDarryl]

(quote)"templar knight = crusader grunt" (historically true?) Sword & Shield = grunt, 2-handed swords = unforgiven, pole arms = breakers, etc.(/quote)

 

actually 2handers ie unforgiven are breakers, polearms spears and other long weapons would be reach troops like ironspines

[Nathaniel]

"Reach troops?"

 

I'm wishing I had my copy of the rules already more and more!

 

Another "pardon my ignorance" post, but which forces have reach troops? I've always like the idea of pikes and wouldn't mind converting up some spearmen to actually have decent length pikes.

 

Hmmm. The probelm of wanting to play factions based entirely on painting and converting something cool is that they are all cool! I've asked about flyers, big trolls and whatnot, mummies and now this! Looks like I might start more than one faction given enough time. It's a shame how easily it sucks you in

 

Nathaniel

[Qwyksilver]

Psssst Nathaniel...

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's their evil genius plan

[abngi]

"Reach troops?"

If a model with Reach is in contact with your rear base side, you get a +1 melee buff.

 

It isn't necessarily tied in to a long weapon, though it can represent that.

[madmonk]

I think (having played "other systems"for a number of years ,that proxies are something that have to be watched VERY carefully.

They are probably IMHO the most abused part of any game system going.

Not saying they shouldn't be allowed ever,just controlled.

Buzz

[Xaaon]

I just bought Warlord, neat system, very well thought out and it looks fun...

 

I have a couple armies from War****er FB, so I'll be using those to play friendly games...I'll be trying to convert a friend of my over with EXTENSIVE W*FB. If anyone wants to give me grief over it...well maybe I won't support Reaper the way I'm not supporting Gouge Workshop anymore...

 

I'd prefer to support reaper, cuz they're not rip-off artists!!!! The game requires intellect to play, the games from Gouge Workhop seem to keep getting less IQ challenging, being of Mensa level intellect, I like a challenging game, not tiddlywinks...

[Froggy the Great]

Heck, for friendly games, use chess-peices on cardboard, so long as the base sizes are approximately right and your opponent agrees. It's only BL-run and Reapercon/Origins/Gencon tournaments that Official Models come in to play.

[Tannhauser]

Wow, that was one helluva bit of dead-post-necromancy.

 

Anyway, I plan on using the upcoming Ilkhan of Malvernis fig in my Overlords army, so there!

[spiritual_exorcist]

Most Black Lightning memebers are pretty flexible from what I can see here on the boards. I doubt anyone would step in and say anything if you used a DHL elf as one of your Warlord Sergeants for example, so long as you made it clear that is what it was to your opponents.

 

THe big 3 tournies are the only place where you have to have all Warlord models without question, so ask organisers about their policy on proxies at other events.

[Sergeant_Crunch]

I think that in areas where Warlord isn't as prominent, there needs to be a certain amount of flexibility on proxies so that folks can get hooked on the rules. Get 'em hooked on the rules and they will buy the minis.

[Qwyksilver]

I've run a demo letting a guy use his own GW models as Crusaders because he wanted to use his own figures. Not a problem. We could clearly identify every model and there was no confusion. Plus it was a demo. The bases were a little smaller, but not enough to make a difference. We then spent 15 minutes after the demo going over Warlord Models on the racks he could pick up since he liked the game and I didn't give him crap about using GW models.

 

I tend to draw the line when people are fielding models that are extremely difficult to differentiate or make no sense.

"Umm no THAT guy there is my sergeant, the one that looks just like him that you just hit is a grunt. I thought he was the captain. No that's this guy here. You said that was a grunt. Did I, I think he's my Captain."

"This model here, the halfling, I am proxying for my Hill Giant. I put him on a big base."

 

That kind of stuff wouldn't fly with me.

[Sergeant_Crunch]

Well, common sense would apply. Just make sure the proxies are clearly identified beforehand. If I'm going to proxy for any game, I write what model is what so that there's no confusion on either side.

[Shadowhunter]

All of our group uses or has used proxies, I myself use a Dain Deepaxe from DHL as and in addition to Gragram Heavyhand to give some variety. I will soon have the two DHL dwarven bear riders to use as additional Thorvalds so I can more easily tell them apart. I don't see why Reaper won't let you use DHL figures as proxies for leaders, elites, and solos as long as you have one of the Warlord figures it represents fielded ; I mean look at how many Trolls and Ogres the DHL line has in it . Varity is the spice of life.

 

BTW did you notice there is a DHL Razig and a Warlord Razig?

 

http://www.reapermini.com/store/customer/p...50&cat=0&page=1

 

http://www.reapermini.com/store/customer/p...78&cat=0&page=1

[ladystorm]

I don't see why Reaper won't let you use DHL figures as proxies for leaders, elites, and solos as long as you have one of the Warlord figures it represents fielded;

 

Reaper does, unless it is one of our Official Tournaments, generally found at Reaper Con, Origins or Gen Con Indy. Those are our big deal events, we put a lot of time, energy and money into those and the expectation that your models will all be Warlord models is not unreasonable.

 

Review the Offical Letter written. Generally the decision to allow the use of proxies is made by the event organizer not Reaper. Reaper just wants you to play.