mrbuddylee Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Is it released yet? And any plans to redo the learn to paints with the new paints or they all going to have the older paints in them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastman Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I don't think it's been released yet, but from the picture in the latest Casket Works (and what was posted earlier) it uses the Pro-Paints, not the Master Paints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperbryan Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 It is being released this week. It uses Pro Paints, and includes the largest painting tutorial yet written in a LTP kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbuddylee Posted December 22, 2004 Author Share Posted December 22, 2004 hooray! thanks for the update! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper User Vaitalla Posted December 23, 2004 Reaper User Share Posted December 23, 2004 Okie, well, this is just base rumor at this point, so don't quote me on it, but... There's been some discussion on what to do with the old LTPK's now that Master Paints are out. The first thought was to do the kits over with Master Paints and revamped instructions, but now I'm thinking of other options. Such as... I would like to switch up the format of the kits a bit. For example, instead of having paint kit one be basic (drybrushing and washing, etc.) techniques, and then progressing to more complex techniques from set to set, I would like to expand all of the instructions to being the size of the ones in the new LTPK3 (small poster-size) and have the set cover all the techniques from basic to advanced on a given subject. That way, each set will appeal to both beginners and more advanced painters. Here's an example. One of the first LTPK's with Master Paints will probably be "Fur and Feather" which might include something like the Winter Wolf and one of the Pegasi (Pegasuses? Ugh...). The instructions would start with drybrushing (basic level), then give examples of the model painted with, say, graduated washes and a bit of layering (intermediate), and then give examples of how to do the funky advanced make-a-smooth-surface-look-like-fur layering and advanced feather techniques. I would want to give horse and wolf color formulas and show how to do some of the more advanced horse patterns, like pure white and dapple grey and such, as well as simple ones like bay and palomino. What d'you guys think? Does this approach, with the something-for-everybody format, sound interesting to you? If you're a beginner it means you can keep using the kit as you master each stage, which is why I like it. Sure, if you're more advanced, you can skip over the bit on drybrushing, but that's probably going to be a relatively small section of the instructions so you should still get your money's worth. Other suggestions on subject matter for the new format LTPK's include: Armor, both Metallics and NMM; Skintones, both light shades and dark shades; Cloth, everything from basic washes to putting in pseudo texture and plaids and such; and possibly Undead, which would cover bone, rotting flesh colors, portraying blood on the model, and vampiric ultra-pale skintones. I'm sure we'll think of more. Any suggestions? Remember that each set has a very limited color palette to work with in order to keep the kits affordable. --Anne, opening a keg of worms with this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naithan Kain Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I really need a learn to paint video/dvd. I cant make it to the classes but I need to SEE the process. Reading the message boards and the learn to paint kit is fine but some of us learn from seeing better than reading. I have had great success from airbrushing videos and I think miniture painting videos would be just as helpful. I have seen the amazing results of people that have gone to the classes and that is what I need. 2 or 3 videos at different levels would be perfect. It is also great advertising for your products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital M@ Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 Painting video's I have heard good things about these videos. Although, they do not cover "advanced" techniques. They do however deomstrate the basics very well and would make it easier to pick up the advanced techniques through practice. I think they are priced well and worth the purchase for people who are struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital M@ Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 Anne, I think that is a great idea, the paint kits will attract a wider variety of buyer that way. The only drawback is many people will still shy away from them because they do not want to buy the paints that they already own. There is nothing you can do about that though. Now if the miniantures included were only available in the paint kits, I think you would entice many suckers, I mean customers who feel a need to own one of everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kheprera Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 I love those ideas, Anne. That would make me go out and buy the LTP I&II again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorderl Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 I love the idea Anne. Also since the Master Paints are relatively new I believe they would do quite well if released with a LTPK. I own all of the Pro paints, I suppose like most members I would like to own the Master paints line but not till I have used my current paints up. I would purchase a LTPK right away (even if I haven’t used my current paints up) if it included the Master paints (I hoped LTPK #3 included the MS paints) as it would allow me to try out the paints following the included step by step painting guide. Yes. it would be great if the older kits painting instructions were revamped. Here’s an idea that I know I would go for ASAP!, how about making the various LTPK painting instructions available for purchase online, included with a list of needed paints and the miniature(s), etc.. that the guide follows. Now this will allow for those individuals that own the PRO or MS paints to only acquire the needed paints, miniatures and not have multiple colors of paints (it’s the reason why I never purchased the previous LTPKs). Perhaps additional online guides where different miniatures are used, say something like the Griffon or Giant Eagle. ERL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep_sashelas Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 The something-for-everybody LTPK with Master Paints is a great idea. I'd also support Lorderl's idea of purchasable online, learn-to-paint guides for the different techniques and for certain popular miniatures - like dragon scales and colors, etc. Not sure if it's economically viable, but speaking for myself personally, I'm already staring at 3 shelves of Vallejo, Citadel and Pro paints in all colors of the rainbow and a little leery of getting a bad case of Pigmentia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizl Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 How about including a CD/DVD with static images and maybe some short video footage of using the techniques? So many people are visual when it comes to learning, and even if they don't want to buy the kit, I bet a fair few would buy the CD seperately :D Shaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Landt Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 How about including a CD/DVD with static images and maybe some short video footage of using the techniques? So many people are visual when it comes to learning, and even if they don't want to buy the kit, I bet a fair few would buy the CD seperately :D This is an idea that pops up frequently, and is very popular. I've heard of a couple of 'master level painters' kicking around the idea of instructional video clips, but no one has completed it so far. I'm with you, Shaz. Heck, I think Reaper would sell a ton of LTP kits just for the CD if it wasn't sold seperately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naithan Kain Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 The paint kits are going to appeal to the beginers mostly. I bought the first learn to paint kit and was happy with it. Got me started enough to get hooked. But since then I have bought a complete line of paints and brushes. A dvd/video would appeal to those who allready have paints. If I bought the kit it would just be to get the instructions or maybe try out the new line of paints. Unless it had a mini you could only get in the kit and I just had to have it. A video could cover everything from preping & priming to paint techniques to basing in begining to advanced levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichabod Crane Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 I must agree. That's a great idea, Anne!!! Please and thank-you. I hope you're permitted to follow through with this. Will the original pages of the "Paintronomicon" for Paint Kit III ever be made available? I heard you had to condense a lil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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