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Quick rundown on the M3 Halftrack variants, note there are always unofficial variants and in the field conversions:

 

M3 Halftrack

M3 GMC - 75mm Cannon M1897

T48 GMC - 57mm Cannon (Lend Lease only, SU-57 in Soviet Service)

M15A1 MGMC - 1 37mm AAG, 2 50 Caliber Mgs

M16 MGMC - Quad 50 Caliber MGs

T30 HMC - 75mm Howitzer

T19 HMC - 105mm Howitzer

M21 - 81mm Mortar Carrier

 

There are lots of experimental vehicles based on this chassis as well most of the list above is for in service production vehicles.

 

It is known that the Marines mounted 40mm Bofors AAGs on M3/M5s in the PTO but not in Europe or Africa.

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M3 Halftrack

M3 GMC - 75mm Cannon M1897

T48 GMC - 57mm Cannon (Lend Lease only, SU-57 in Soviet Service)

M15A1 MGMC - 1 37mm AAG, 2 50 Caliber Mgs

M16 MGMC - Quad 50 Caliber MGs

T30 HMC - 75mm Howitzer

T19 HMC - 105mm Howitzer

M21 - 81mm Mortar Carrier

You could also add the M13 MGMC (had dual .50s instead of quad .50s)

 

Not to mention M2 variants...

 

Damon.

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Thoughts on MicroArmor (1/300):

 

1) Change the timescale to reflect the larger distances, or

 

2) Cut the movement in half but keep the same weapon ranges. After all, 60" in 1/300 scale = 500 Yards.

 

Am I being formally asked to drop the Armor on the Halftrack to +0 and change its Target Type to "Soft"?

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Models...

 

Now I'm just going to post little pics of models that are available in 1/144th. The producer here is Mini Hobby Model, which is distributed by IMEX (who also handles the Russian Tehnolog scenery sets and the Astroid game). {And if you really want to get ambitious about scenery, IMEX also has the Revell Germany 1/200 scale North Sea Oil Drilling Platform kit for $100. :devil: } The Mini Hobby Model kits have two tanks in a pack and sell for $4 retail.

 

So, we have...

 

T-54s and T-55s

MHM82101.JPG

 

Leopard 2

MHM82106-T.JPG

 

LeClerc

MHM82107-T.JPG

 

T-72s

MHM82110-T.JPG

 

M1A1 Abrams

MHM82112-T.JPG

 

Japanese Type 90

MHM82113-T.JPG

 

And the Merkava, which we've already seen.

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Now here's an ambitious entry... (It's a shame I can't make an 8 DT tank--yeah right! :poke: )

 

MAUS & E-100

 

The Maus and its stablemate the E-100 were the biggest tanks ever constructed--the ultimate attempt at a supertank and the dream machines of tank enthusiasts ever after. Both weighed in at well over 100 tons and required crews of six. In some places, the armor was nearly a foot thick! Only one E-100 prototype was made, and it never had its turret mounted. A few Maus prototypes were made, but Hitler finally cancelled production in 1944 and what scant information is available suggests that none of the prototypes ever went into combat. (Dragon has models of both the Maus and the E-100 in its "Panzer Korps" product line.)

 

4 DAMAGE TRACKS

MM: 4. POWER: 4. COST: 8

ACA: +1. COST: 1

DCA: +1. COST: 1

ARM: +2. COST: 14

PW: 16. COST: 29

TL: +1. COST: 6

ECM: +1. COST: 4

WEAPONRY:

MACHINE GUN; RNG 18; H/S (+0/+4); POWER: 4; COST: 18

128MM MAIN GUN; RNG 36; H/S (+5/+1); POWER: 4; COST: 52

75MM SECONDARY GUN; RNG 24; H/S (+3/+1); POWER: 4; COST: 31

BREEDER: DAIMLER-BENZ MB509

TARGET: KRUPP TWZF-1

ECM: PORSCHE F5/F8

TARGET TYPE: HARD

MOVE TYPE: TRACKED

ROLE: TANK

COST: 164 POINTS

 

P.S.: If an 8 DT tank were legal, it would look like this...

 

8 DAMAGE TRACKS

MM: 4. POWER: 4. COST: 15

ACA: +1. COST: 1

DCA: +1. COST: 1

ARM: +2. COST: 28

PW: 16. COST: 60

TL: +1. COST: 6

ECM: +1. COST: 4

WEAPONRY:

MACHINE GUN; RNG 18; H/S (+0/+4); POWER: 4; COST: 21

128MM MAIN GUN; RNG 36; H/S (+5/+1); POWER: 4; COST: 93

75MM SECONDARY GUN; RNG 24; H/S (+3/+1); POWER: 4; COST: 50

BREEDER: DAIMLER-BENZ MB509

TARGET: KRUPP TWZF-1

ECM: PORSCHE F5/F8

TARGET TYPE: HARD

MOVE TYPE: TRACKED

ROLE: TANK

COST: 279 POINTS

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Add a rule that any road movement nullifies the road for the rest of the game. The test drive threw pavement divots everywhere.

 

We ran a Command Decision game with one of these supported by a Nebelwerfer platoon and a company of infantry. It had only one "hit" to be destroyed,as it represented a single vehicle. It held off the beter part of a Soviet Brigade before finally being "bum-rushed", and the supprt troops eliminated. The crew "abandonned ship" finally, and fled. It had destroyed several companies of T34s and a few JS2s.

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IIRC the E100 never made it anywhere...

 

The Maus had 2 production versions constructed and tested. There were minor differences between the 2. There is some suggestion that at least one of these vehicles was used in action against the advancing Soviets in 1945, when they threatened to overrun the test grounds. The Maus now held in the museum at Kubinka is actually a hybrid, and has the turret from one vehicle mated to the hull of another.

 

Damon.

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Models...

 

Now I'm just going to post little pics of models that are available in 1/144th. The producer here is Mini Hobby Model, which is distributed by IMEX (who also handles the Russian Tehnolog scenery sets and the Astroid game). {And if you really want to get ambitious about scenery, IMEX also has the Revell Germany 1/200 scale North Sea Oil Drilling Platform kit for $100. :devil: } The Mini Hobby Model kits have two tanks in a pack and sell for $4 retail.

Any links? and do you have pics of any next to CAVs?

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This is a pic from www.dragonmodelsusa.com:

 

l_DRA14003.jpg

 

Check out both "Panzer Korps" and "Can.Do".

 

And you can look up the Mini Hobby Models at www.phoenix-model.com

 

As for the size, most 1/144th tanks are about the same size as CAV's own tanks--although the Maus and E-100 are big enough to rival CAVs. The top of a Maus should come up to the chest of most CAVs.

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A BRIEF COMMENTARY

 

I've been doing a bunch of research these days toward perpetuating this thread, and let's just say that there's a rather stiff roadblock in the way...armor.

 

It's understandable that the armies of the world don't want to specify just how much armor there is on the vehicles they have now. The latest battle tanks from which I have hard information are all obsolete: the T-62, the Vickers Vijayanta (which was important in the India/Pakistan wars of the 1960s/1970s) and the M48A5 Patton. The latter two both predate the introduction of Chobham composite armor, which muddies the statistics, when they are quoted.

 

Some of the sources I've found quote the effective thicknesses of modern Russian tanks' armor, but I find those figures to be fantastically implausible. Do I take them as face value, and assume that Western tanks have likeable armor? Or just keep everything at an arbitrary level?

 

Now, most of the modern tanks (Abrams, Leopard II, Japanese Type 90, LeClerc) have basically the same stats: 4 Damage Tracks, Movement of 14, a 120mm (+5/+1) main gun...and probably the same levels of TL and ECM. (The ex-Soviet T-80, T-90, T-72M, the Italian Ariete and the British Challenger II are all roughly the same as the above types but slower.) But I'm reluctant to set armor levels.

 

And further research has confirmed that I should reset the Halftrack's Armor to +0 and its Target Type to "Soft".

 

Any comments before I add more entries?

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