dude Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Aren't female dwarves supposed to have beards like the men do? None of the recent Dwarven chicks have whiskers on their chins. How come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Snack Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 This isn't HackMaster... Reaper has it's own world of Adon, in which the Dwarven females don't have beards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsumoto Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 that's a DnD second edition thing that was borrowed from tolkien. thankfully, dwarven females have now been put into the short sexy fat chick department, and have lost the manly goats. WOTC has decide to go with a more women friendly route, thank god. Reaper does what it wants to with the IP, thank God! and Dwarf women are no longer just a male subtype, thank god!!!! (i do seeing Dwarf Gals having peach-fuzz arms and longer 'sideburn' hair...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyn Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Being myself a dwarf woman, I can verify that some of us do actually come unbearded. Hang on... *sorts out reality* Oooh... you mean *fantasy* dwarf women... Never mind then. Jess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Froggy the Great Posted August 1, 2005 Moderator Share Posted August 1, 2005 Being myself a dwarf woman, I can verify that some of us do actually come unbearded. Hang on... *sorts out reality* Oooh... you mean *fantasy* dwarf women... Never mind then. Jess I dunno, Kellyn. You're my fantasy dwarf woman. Not to threadjack or anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakhak Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Being myself a dwarf woman, I can verify that some of us do actually come unbearded. And she comes out with the big guns! Seriously though, if that's what you want to play with, just slap some green stuff on the male dwarves breast plate and there ya go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint of Sinners Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Being myself a dwarf woman, I can verify that some of us do actually come unbearded. Hang on... *sorts out reality* Oooh... you mean *fantasy* dwarf women... Never mind then. Jess bearded or unbearded yer still sexy *runs off to hide from the Froggy Overlord* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyn Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 *BLINK* Um... Thank you. *heh* We now return you to your regularly scheduled miniature-related conversation... *grin* Jess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisler Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 that's a DnD second edition thing that was borrowed from tolkien. thankfully, dwarven females have now been put into the short sexy fat chick department, and have lost the manly goats. WOTC has decide to go with a more women friendly route, thank god. Reaper does what it wants to with the IP, thank God! and Dwarf women are no longer just a male subtype, thank god!!!! (i do seeing Dwarf Gals having peach-fuzz arms and longer 'sideburn' hair...) Actually, Dwarven women with beards IS NOT borrowed from Tolkien. Tolkien does not once say in any of his books that dwarf women had beards in the land of Middle Earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Java Fiend Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 This comes up regularly on the Tolkien discussion groups. Did Dwarf women have beards? [This updates question V.D.1 of the Tolkien FAQ.] Yes. The most canonical evidence for this comes in Appendix A, where it is said of Dwarf women that They are in voice and appearance, and in garb if they must go on a journey, so like to the dwarf-men that the eyes and ears of other peoples cannot tell them apart. It seems that (male) Dwarves in Middle-earth all have beards: among other evidence, as Bilbo sets out on his adventure in The Hobbit, we read that "His only comfort was that he couldn't be mistaken for a dwarf, as he had no beard." Given that, the quote above must imply that Dwarf women were bearded as well. However, we do not need to rely on such implications: Tolkien answered this question explicitly in other texts. In The War of the Jewels ("The Later Quenta Silmarillion: Of the Naugrim and the Edain", written ~1951), Tolkien wrote that no Man nor Elf has ever seen a beardless Dwarf - unless he were shaven in mockery, and would then be more like to die of shame... For the Naugrim have beards from the beginning of their lives, male and female alike... In The Peoples of Middle-earth, Christopher Tolkien says that a similar statement was present in an earlier draft of Appendix A as well. As these statements are entirely in agreement with the canonical evidence cited above, the conclusion that Dwarf women had beards seems inescapable. (Steuard Jensen's Tolkien FAQ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pae Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 If you like your dwarven women with beards, just use the bearded ones. You know, Snori Oathbreaker could very well be female. As could Dain Deepaxe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsumoto Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Heisler, if i could only beleive as you do!! however, it's indirect, but it is there. the path of logic that java Fiends is in there--i am enough of a nerdish tolkier that i read the appendicies to LOTR first, then read the three books. yeah...it's not cool. bt i thank all fantasy companies who have turned away from the old bearded lady approach to do what comes natural. remeber guys...tolkien is hobbit forming!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemist Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I always thought the idea that dwarven women had beards was just a snide rumour circulated by the elves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsumoto Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 i seriously hope it is. afterall, last time i was too drunk to tell if there was a beard there or not.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint of Sinners Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I always thought the idea that dwarven women had beards was just a snide rumour circulated by the elves. which is why dwarves and elves don't get along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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