Sergeant_Crunch Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 I resurrect the horse with the sole intent of flailing upon it some more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy8 Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 By all means, flail away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mughzee Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 I'm not trying to kick any dead horses....but 14 pages and this is the end of it. talking trash about a dead horse. Just not right. well, I'll guess off to other horses we can kick and not have any results after 14 pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy8 Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Well... we did kind of exhaust every plausible avenue with that. Unless you had another one that no one has brought to the table yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan6 Posted August 27, 2005 Author Share Posted August 27, 2005 There were a lot of good ideas and some of them I'm going to keep in mind for scenario rules. I'm glad simple won out over complex though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Pat Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 god trust me i really really hate to be the one who throws gas on the fire, but what do all of you think of Convert or Die being driect attacks only. Tabasco did a great job of blowing the hell out of a warden today using a single critical shot from a IA attack, and turned that into a convert or die. Thoughts on Direct attacks only? Mad Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy8 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Uh yeah, "C or D" should be with DA attacks only. How the hell are you going to give the "C or D" option if you IA somebody from the other side of a mountain!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mughzee Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 ON Strikes: The end point is until the book comes out, I'm playing that you deploy 12" out by table width wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivarr Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 god trust me i really really hate to be the one who throws gas on the fire, but what do all of you think of Convert or Die being driect attacks only. Tabasco did a great job of blowing the hell out of a warden today using a single critical shot from a IA attack, and turned that into a convert or die. Thoughts on Direct attacks only? Mad Pat I dont think it should be direct only. Convert or Die does not need to be a face to face offer in the CAV setting...Convert or Die is a "com" message..... <malvie pilot>Come brother, join us or I will be forced to bring the considerable power of the Mavernian Empire to bear on you right here and right now. <poor sucker>Um you cant even see me. <malvie pilot>Do you really wanna give up your life on that bet? <poor sucker>Um....No. malvie inquisitor>Good choice my son....welcome to the Light of Khardullis. I think that its great that he managed to CorD something with more than one DT left on it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy8 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 "C or D" should be "face to face" regardless of the setting. "C or D" should also be an action of DA's only. Why? Because it makes sense. Using our imaginations a bit... you have a CAV that is all shot up, and a Malvie CAV has got it dead center ready to vaporize it. He then gives the "C or D" option to the other pilot, who takes it. Ok, reasonable situation and I can buy that. Now, same CAV as before on the other side of a mountain/forest/rock outcrop/building, whatever, the Malvie is threatening a "C or D", how is he going to enforce it, as it were? I know CAV is only a simulation and we take a lot of liberties but you have to draw the line somewhere. Personally I think the Malvie unit should be within 12 inches to even get the chance to "C or D". But I will accept any DA long before I'd accept an IA "C or D". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrome Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 How about some other restrictions in addition or in exchange for LoS, such as: 1) target model has to be within attacker's 1st range band or 12"-24", this simulates the immediate threat that the target would feel. 2) no range, LoS limitations, but Malvies can only convert last model in Platoon/Flight. This represents the target model feeling all alone and more susceptable to the Malvie rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrome Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Could we get a Mod to move the Convert or Die stuff over to the Convert or Die thread? No sense changing topics in this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy8 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 How about some other restrictions in addition or in exchange for LoS, such as: 1) target model has to be within attacker's 1st range band or 12"-24", this simulates the immediate threat that the target would feel. 2) no range, LoS limitations, but Malvies can only convert last model in Platoon/Flight. This represents the target model feeling all alone and more susceptable to the Malvie rhetoric. 1) I like it. I think that makes a lot of sense. 2) I don't like it. Even if there is a unit all alone there are already rules in place that make retreating a viable (if unwanted) option. Also, it doesn't give that feeling of impending doom like 1 does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erion Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 ON Strikes: The end point is until the book comes out, I'm playing that you deploy 12" out by table width wide. Deployment is totally scenario driven, as far as I'm concerned. As seen in another thread the 12" deep 72" long deployment zone brings with it another set of circumstance you have to deal with that people started out by saying "is this broken". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mughzee Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I can see that. but as for now I dont' have any scenerios xempt the ones i'm making up, so until the book..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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