urion Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 A bit hard for some to make the trip all the way to the US of A ! I knew that not everyone can make it to Reapercon even as I wrote my post. It was meant more to show that Reaper is not in the least bit like GW when it comes to milking its customers for all their worth. They are willing to go further to please their customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeFall Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 YOu know something else to consider is that you can still have two troops of warriors, if you are playing a 1500 point game. This has never been a hinderance to me, primarily because I think 1500 is the best level of play. 1000 is too low, IMNSHO. This is incorrect. You aren't allowed a 2nd troop of adepts until 2000 points. You get one for every FULL 1000 points, as specified on page 49 of the 2nd printing core rulebook (bottom left corner of the page). You're absolutely right, Gus. I had 1500 points on the brain because I had just been discussing the 1501 pt level requiring a Warlord model. I'll stand by my point though, just replace 2000 for 1500 in the above argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbiter10 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 So, what do people think of the Overlords getting two sub-lists in their upcoming book? I'm pretty excited about this, and I don't even play them (yet)! So let's see... the first faction to get two new warlords AND two sublists, good melee models, lots of mages, fair number of clerics, great selection of other elite models, pretty good cavalry (or great cavalry if Chevaliers can be fielded as adepts in the Onyx Legion), good solos, useful faction abilities ("Do Your Duty" and "Lock Shields")... do the Overlords have any apparent weaknesses? Oh wait, I just thought of one: they do lack a two-weapon/two-attack adept; but I wouldn't call this a substantial weakness in light of everything else they've got going for them. Next to the Reven, it looks like these guys are shaping up to be another rock-solid faction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltrath Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 As someone who has only play what...four or five games as the O'Lords, I'm looking forward to the two sublists, even without knowing what exactly they'll contain. I started with Mercs but have found my true calling with the Overlords....they just suit my playstyle so much better. Of course it's easy to speculate about the Onyx Legion.. Matisse leading oodles of warriors (who'll be grunts I'm betting in the sublist), few if any mages (Maybe Kevis only, give us a reason to use him over Arik ), and who knows...Onyx Chevaliers as an adept...nah, too expensive pointswise for that I'd think. Throw in some Onyx Phalanx, spearmen, crossbowmen, and maybe Balthorn as a cleric, not the new evangelist though. The other sublist...Followers of Khardullis...that makes me wonder. Maybe Zora at the helm of that one with Daughters of the Whip as grunts? Lots of Bondslaves? I'm not sure what to expect for this one other than Arik being almost a requirement in it, given that he's an Inquisitor or maybe that new evangelist will be a big part of this army as well. Of course I'd expect Moraia to be a pivitol part of the army as well. Ah well though, speculation just breeds rumors that usually have little end result in what actually happens, especially in wargaming. Though one thing I do know for certain...I'll be ordering Phalanx, Daughters and a few other models once the book is released...I'm wanting to wait to see in print what they all do, officially, before I get any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeFall Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Oh wait, I just thought of one: they do lack a two-weapon/two-attack adept; but I wouldn't call this a substantial weakness in light of everything else they've got going for them. Daughters of the Whip are a 2 MA adept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbiter10 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Daughters of the Whip are a 2 MA adept. I stand corrected. And now it appears that the Overlords truly are without any discernible weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiritual_exorcist Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 They are a very well rounded faction, probably the only one that rivals them in that regard are the Reven. Looking at the options I think you'd be hard pressed to say out right one of those factions has more options and stand out further than the other (granted we've yet to see the Overlord book), but it seems pretty clear that if you want a jack of all trades army either the Orcs, or Overlords are for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcrosby Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 They are a very well rounded faction, probably the only one that rivals them in that regard are the Reven. Overlords max. range is 18". (Reven can shoot to 30".) Stand back and shoot is one thing that the Overlords can't do which is a handicap for time-limited tourney games. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenwolf Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 So, what do people think of the Overlords getting two sub-lists in their upcoming book? I'm pretty excited about this, and I don't even play them (yet)! So let's see... the first faction to get two new warlords AND two sublists... Did I miss something? Has there been an official post regarding the Overlord book? Can anyone cofirm this? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladystorm Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 My guess is they are taking this information from the posted back cover of the book in the New Previews Gallery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storminator Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 So, what do people think of the Overlords getting two sub-lists in their upcoming book? I'm pretty excited about this, and I don't even play them (yet)! So let's see... the first faction to get two new warlords AND two sublists... Did I miss something? Has there been an official post regarding the Overlord book? Can anyone cofirm this? Thanks. Some of us are getting quite twitchy waiting... PS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenwolf Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 My guess is they are taking this information from the posted back cover of the book in the New Previews Gallery. Thanks ladystorm. I missed that. Some of us are getting quite twitchy waiting... PS I bet you are . I'm getting a little anxious myself. Overlords are looking better everytime I read something new about them. They may become my second faction yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey wolf Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 I wish they'd do a spoiler like the did for the nefsokar and let us see our sub-lists for playtesting. Any one know a realease date for the book? Are we getting any more or are we done? (not trying to be greedy ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltrath Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Alright, I think I did this correctly...here are the changes from the new faction data cards compared to what was up before then... Ashkrypt add 1 to point cost add Defensive Magic SA Arik drop 3 from point cost Balthorn drop 2 from point cost Kevis drop 4 from point cost Ymrillix add 9 to points cost Warriors change Grunt to Adept Onyx Chevalier add 3 to point cost add Cavalry SA Onyx Golem drop 4 from point cost That should be everything...I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Landt Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Weltrath got all the main stuff. Missed a few nitpicky bits, so I'll post this for completion. OK, here is a COMPLETE list of changes with the new datacards: Ashkrypt: Gain 1 point from 165 to 166 Gain 'Defensive Magic' special ability Ymrilix the False: Gain 9 points from 158 to 167 Lola Darkslip: Change from Hero to Rogue Arik: Drop 3 points from 48 to 45 Kevis: Drop 4 points from 42 to 38 Balthon: Gain 2 points from 81 to 83 Overlord Warriros: Change from Grunt to Adept Onyx Golem: Drop 4 points from 189 to 185 Change from Monster to Solitaire Onyx Chevalier: Gain 3 points from 75 to 78 Gain 'Cavalry' special ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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