Brushmaster Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I've only had the faction book a week now , but I've come acrros a couple of quandries . The Nightspecter has listed as having Inate Spell - Fear . How does he cast it without a CP ? Does he use it like the reven Warcry with a CP of 4 ? Secondly , with Bindsouls , how is it activated ? Does one have to Invoke SA or is it a Non-Combat Action or what? Is there a limit to how many you can break in a activation ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrightjd Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I've only had the faction book a week now , but I've come acrros a couple of quandries . The Nightspecter has listed as having Inate Spell - Fear . How does he cast it without a CP ? Does he use it like the reven Warcry with a CP of 4 ? Secondly , with Bindsouls , how is it activated ? Does one have to Invoke SA or is it a Non-Combat Action or what? Is there a limit to how many you can break in a activation ? I believe the bindsoul things are like a free thing to do so to speak. And you can break multiples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristomeyers Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Breaking a Bindsoul requires no action at all, it's a freebie. Any Innate Spell is cast at a CP of 4 unless the model actually has a CP rating. In which case you would use the model's rating (i.e. Lupine Shaman) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_curtoss Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Actually, I believe that the CP would only be 2. The reason the Warcry is CP 4 is because you are casting it on a friendly model. Ie, CP 2 + Cast on friendly (CP 2) = 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwyksilver Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Dark_Curtoss has the right answer. The Innate: Warcry for Reven Leader models is default CP 2, +2 for casting on a friendly model. It's also not a combat spell, so it needs to beat a 10. Fear is not likely to be cast on your own troops, so it's CP 2 vs the target model's MD. Bindsouls, IIRC, are a freebie to break, and you can break as many as you want to. Just remember, all that extra energy goes to the FIRST model that casts Undying Host. That means that if you go and break a metric ton of them, but don't have a caster able to cast the spell in that troop, and then your opponent is activated next and casts Undying Host, they get all the bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperbryan Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Innate Spells are CP 2 by default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushmaster Posted September 3, 2005 Author Share Posted September 3, 2005 Thanks everybody . So the best CP the Nightspecter can hav is 3 with LME since its not a Mage or a Cleric . I wonder at the usefulness of the spell in game terms when its going to need an 8 or 9 for success . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperbryan Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 (edited) Yes, but he can try it free every turn that you don't need him doing anything else - <snip> Edited September 5, 2005 by Reaperbryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drjsallison Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Yes, but he can try it free every turn that you don't need him doing anything else <snip> As I understand it, Breaking bindsouls give bonuses to Undying host only. Bindsouls do not boost other spells such as the Nightspectres fear, for example? Can the nightspecter even take a bindsoul as the Necropolis book states: "Models with Mage and Undead Special abilities only" (page 38, under notes). Given this wording, does this mean Malek is not able to take bindsouls as he is not Undead? Is this a wording issue that should read: Mage or Undead."? Could I get this clarified? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperbryan Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 My Bad. Post edited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristomeyers Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Here's another question, I've noticed a few discrepencies between the Faction Book and the Data Cards. Do I use the Faction Book stats over the Data Cards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperbryan Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Faction book is correct, unless Errata also applies, in which case the cards are probably right, but I am behind on updating all cards to conform to the current errata. Specific questions can be asked here, in which case we can determine the correct answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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