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I need to get some black primer*, and Rustoleum Sandable comes in Grey and White only. I have heard only nice things about Krylon, but does it come in black primer?

 

 

 

 

*Actually, some white and grey, too. We had a break in the weather, so I blew off 1 1/2 cans of grey and 1 can of white primer on about 100 minis, 50-odd Ogre vehicles, and some Armorcast and home-made terrain. About time, too, I spent all winter filing and prepping minis to prime.

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Krylon does make a black primer, + the other colors as well.

 

Also the primer I use Duplicolor makes it in the trad. shades as well, DC is a good one due to it's thinner than Krylon + more durable (I think) You can find it in the auto section of 'marts or at a auto supply store.

 

Randy M

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I need to get some black primer*, and Rustoleum Sandable comes in Grey and White only. I have heard only nice things about Krylon, but does it come in black primer?

 

 

 

 

*Actually, some white and grey, too. We had a break in the weather, so I blew off 1 1/2 cans of grey and 1 can of white primer on about 100 minis, 50-odd Ogre vehicles, and some Armorcast and home-made terrain. About time, too, I spent all winter filing and prepping minis to prime.

I have had problems with thier brown 'rusty metal' primer. a perfect brown, but it goes powdery fast and the nozzels are defective alot of the time.

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Oh am I glad that someone brought this up because I was about to look for the old thread on primers.  I just used Krylon Black Primer for the 3rd time and I must say that I'm less than happy with it.  I know some people on the boards have had better experiences, but I just felt like venting.  

 

What happened was that the primer left granual spots on the mini and the spray clogged up after every couple sprays.  :angry:  :angry:  I think I'll still be sticking with Rust-oleum.

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I find that Krylon Black tends to not cover as well as white, but then again, it's possible that I don't notice with white.  Silver shining through black is a lot easier to see than silver shining through white.

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Well, if not Krylon black, which blacks are out there? I have never seen Rustoleum Black Primer, just flat black paint (which I have).

 

I will check out Duplicolor (thanks Haldir) but what else would people recommend?

 

Just assume GW and Armory are too expensive and skip those. :)

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I've also wondered why Rust-oleum doesn't have a black primer.  I've been leary about trying their flat black paint as I'm not sure as to the comparisson between consistancies (sp?).  If you don't mind shelling out more money (about 2x more) you could always buy Citidels black primer.  I've never used it, only their matte sealer.

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If you don't mind shelling out more money (about 2x more) you could always buy Citidels black primer.  I've never used it, only their matte sealer.

Well, I can get Rustoleum for $2.27, and Citadel for more than twice that.

 

As for the flat black, I *have* used it as primer in a pinch, but only on terrain - Armorcast and some assorted plastics from old toys I wanted to re-paint. None of those needed real detail, so I was not worried. I also use flat black Rustoleum on any 1/285 or 1/300 scale armor I am painting black...may as well...detail is going to be a few bright colors and white numbers. But yeah, I am leery of doing on a mini without another primer under it.

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Well, here's the official word from the Rust-Oleum people about not having black 'clean metal primer':

 

"I'm not sure why we do not manufacture this product. I would guess because it is easier to cover up a light primer with a dark paint than it is tocover up a dark primer with a light paint."

 

But what about dark paint on dark primer?  Anyway, that's what I was able to get out of their 'Technical Services' guy.

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Seeing as how this is the most recent 'Primer' thread, I thought I'd just continue with another question.

 

Not being entirely intelligent when it comes to the different types of primers, does anyone know the differences between automotive, sandable, wet sandable or clean metal (which I'm currently using) primers?  Asking anyone knowledgable about any of these.

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automotive is what I use due to it can stand practically any paint on top of it (I also nascar car model  & I use lacquers with those)

 

I think it's pretty much the paints on top of it that matter, I wouldn't use Krylon on the bottom of lacquers due to the lacq are a "hotter" paint & will eat that primer.

 

I also find the auto primers (Duplicolor in my case) goes on thinner too, does obscure minor details, then Krylon. Not a big fan of Krylon primers actually.

 

Sandable ones let you sand off minor areas  that need fixed during priming stages (body work in my cars for example)

 

other than that they are all about the same

 

Randy M

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I use Krylon Grey primer.

It works well, covers well, and I've never had problems with clogged nozzles, pitting or granulation with it.

 

I also find that with subsequent applications of acrylic paint, the grey primer acts as a good neutral tone, because the light colors cover without needing more than one coat, and the dark colors seem to flow over the primer nicely.  Just my own observation.

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I've had a lot of success using krylon ultra flat black paint as a base primer.  It's a nice matte finish that's thin enough to show all the detail.

 

That said, I've had terrible luck using mini brand primers, other than floquil.  I'm busy trying to clean up my last batch from having a chalky effect that the primer gave them.  It's wierd; I can brush off the most of it by touch.  Anyone have this happen to them before?

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