possible dumb question

[hater dave]

Looking at the half Orc minis am I correct in assuming the other "half" is human?

 

So if your playing a game can the half Orcs be used along with humans or do they fight along with their Orc brothers?

[Erion]

If you're talking about Warlord, then the only true restriction is that Good and Evil models can't be in the same force.

 

Since there are Good Humans in the Crusaders and Evil Humans in the overlords, and the Reven (orcs) are neutral, you can go either way.

 

Of course, if you play a faction-pure force, you get special abilities for your army...

[haldir]

the most common "other half" for half orcs is usually human

 

basically the raging pillaging & raping of women or if your female then I guess men of orcs or humans usually is how half orcs come about.

 

Don't think I've seen a dwarf-orc mini thou, that would be a interesting combo that's for sure.

 

are you talking about D&D or a fantasty rpg??

 

Depends on the way you want to play the half orc, was he brought up on which side?? if it's orc, he basically a orc, if a human brought him up then he more or less a butt ugly human, or you could totally forgo that & say he was raised by orcs but learned the ways of life from watchin humans in the area, etc etc. pretty much depends on how you want it.

 

hope that's what you wanted to hear.

 

Randy M

[Reaperbryan]

Don't think I've seen a dwarf-orc mini thou, that would be a interesting combo that's for sure.

Our D&D group decided a half-Dwarf/half-orc would be called a Dorc.

are you talking about D&D or a fantasty rpg??

 

Depends on the way you want to play the half orc, was he brought up on which side?? if it's orc, he basically a orc, if a human brought him up then he more or less a butt ugly human, or you could totally forgo that & say he was raised by orcs but learned the ways of life from watchin humans in the area, etc etc. pretty much depends on how you want it.

 

hope that's what you wanted to hear.

 

Randy M

In general, it assumed that the other half of any given half-orc is Human. Presumably Orc and Elves, Dwarves, Halflings, Gnomes, etc. cannot interbreed. Although elves and Humand can interbreed, and orc and humans can, elves and orc are either unable to, or each species finds the other so repulsive that they never try . . .

[haldir]

Bryan

 

you think like I do, Ha Ha

 

yah I've always said dwarves & elves can't mate, they may love each other but can't have offspring (both are sterile to each other), I can see gnomes or halflings & dwarves breeding thou, sorta of the same type of race, just a tad bit different.

 

Also something to concider, using a half-something the half is usually human in most games (half-ogre, half-elf, half-dragon (thou that could be anything) & of course half orc), in Eberron the shifter is race that is decendent of a lycanthrope & human I beleive, just generation down the line that it evolved to it's own species, same with the changeling (offspring species of dopplegangers & human)

[Cadaver]

Well, if we go by Tolkien (All, Hail the Father)

Orcs are elves twisted by Sauron, so they should be able to breed,

However the hatred of each other is so intense that it is unlikely to happen.

[Almathea Toes]

If you are feeling picky the most common definition for species is that they are unable to create fertile offspring with any other species. Of course this defintiion doesn't even work very well in real life never mind in a fantasy setting.

 

In the games I run, everything can breed with humans or their own kind and nothing else. The offspring is always viable, but only with one of the parent races. For the sake of simplicity, I say that there can be 1/4 elves, etc, and that no bloody, pale, loss of function mutation is going to be dominant. Oh and there's no magical "elf" gene that some how resets 90% of your development.

 

[pompous] I reject the elven universal promoter theory. [/pompous] (Sorry, I think bio classes have fried my brain.)

[Froggy the Great]

In my game world, the Human template is more or less a universal breeder, and is dominant. Races can create hybrids with humans, and those hybrids will produce the same hybrid when mating with one of the same hybrid race. If two different Human-hybrid races mate, the offspring wil either be stillborn or nonviable. I dunno, it jsut seems easier than dealing with 83/111th-Elves.

[Almathea Toes]

If any of my players decided to play an 83/111 th elve I'd probably take evil delight in insisting that they decide which 83 of 111 elven they were.

 

"So do you digest cheese at the lactose tolerance level of a human or an elf, or are you hybrid in this characteristic, resulting in a medium amount of lactase beign produced?"

 

"Right now on to your cotychrome-c levels."

 

[evil] ha ha ha [/evil]

[Qwyksilver]

I think the easiest way to look at it is, Humans are the genetic super hybridizer, they can blend with anything.

 

I'll just use elves for example, but my thinking holds true for any half race.

 

Elf + Human = Half Elf.

 

Elf + Half Elf = Elf (although likely one subject to stigma for the human taint in their blood, maybe they are bit sturdier than a normal elf, but for game purpose, they are elven, differences are purely for fluff, description and RPG)

 

Human + Half Elf = Human (Likely a more slight, fair complexion than standard human, but for game purposes, a human, differences are purely for fluff, description and RPG)

 

Half Elf + Half Elf = Half Elf (You could have some fun, and roll some percentile and say there's a 25% chance for a true human or true elf in the breeding, using an old Punnett Square, but that's just for comedic purposes. Who did the half elf female really sleep with? )

 

 

Just my thoughts.

[Kengar]

Well, if we go by Tolkien (All, Hail the Father)

Orcs are elves twisted by Sauron, so they should be able to breed,

However the hatred of each other is so intense that it is unlikely to happen.

 

Morgoth, but whatever.

 

Saruman bred half-orcs for his army (in the books).

 

In my RPG campaigns, half-orcs are half human/half orc. As to whether they fight with orcs or humans, it depends on the particular setting and character.

 

The most typical way for a half-orc to come about is the rape of a human woman by an orc, usually as part of an orc raid on a human settlement. The half-orc offspring would therefore probably be born among humans. Whether the mother (or other humans) would raise him and how is questionable, but it seems possible that some of the cross-breeds would grow up among humans and identiy with their non-orc kin.

[Bill_Adcock]

Hehe. In our (now on infinite-hiatus) D&D game, one of the guys played a half-orc...who had a human father and orcish mother.

[eastman]

Hehe. In our (now on infinite-hiatus) D&D game, one of the guys played a half-orc...who had a human father and orcish mother.

 

That was the origin of my 1/2-Orc Barbarian/Cleric as well. His father was a blind "professional wrestler". And in a different game, my human barbarian and a friend's 1/2-Orc barbarian were half-brothers (different mothers)

[Cadaver]

Well, if we go by Tolkien (All, Hail the Father)

Orcs are elves twisted by Sauron, so they should be able to breed,

However the hatred of each other is so intense that it is unlikely to happen.

 

Morgoth, but whatever.

 

 

Or Melkor

Ididn't want to go into a long discussion of who he was.

[Yoshi]

In the last group I gamed with, my half-orc was the only good character and irked the group for killing another character (he went over-board on the evil acts and murdering innocents).

Call me crazy, but a good aligned orc killing an evil sun elf sort of broke the sterotype.