Erion Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Man, I am absolutely loving the new Dark Angels plastic sprues. I built my Master of the Deathwing Last night from it and some spare terminator bits I had laying around. I actually had to curb myself from attaching any more of the spiffy little themed bits to his Terminator armor lest I actually not be able to paint what's underneath. I also built two robed Veteran Sergeants this morning, and the only pieces I needed to get from somewhere other than the DA sprue were a bolt pistol arm and a plasma pistol arm. Very nice stuff. I'm going to need to convert a Terminator standard bearer and Terminator Apothecary before too long for a command squad. A squad of Terminators with three basic attacks that get to ignore the first failed save in the squad every turn? Yes please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertsjf Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I have not even looked at Aeronautica Imperialis. Do you have any flyers/flak vehicles for other epic armies? If so, you're looking at a one time $90 cost. I caved.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erion Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I have not even looked at Aeronautica Imperialis. Do you have any flyers/flak vehicles for other epic armies? If so, you're looking at a one time $90 cost. I caved.... Nope. Pricing out tau for epic was enough to turn me off the game for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberShadow Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Nope. Pricing out tau for epic was enough to turn me off the game for good. You could use the 'standard' SG fliers for the game (or even 40K ones!). Some Eldar Epic metal fliers, and a couple of the 'smaller' Thunderbolts would give you a game... Although now I am thinking about what stats the CAV fliers would have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanite Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 Kinda off topic but I wonder what impact the reaper pre-paints will have on GW. I mean, the PP orcs look to be cheaper then just about any GW orc blister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erion Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 To be honest, I don't know anyone who uses GW models (except out of the old Heroquest and Talisman boxes) as proxies for D&D or any other game, for that matter. That said, the current plastic Orc Boyz are $1.85 a model unassembled/unpainted. One of the best deals per model GW has, actually. The Reaper Pre-paints are going to be about $.50 more per model. Well within my acceptable 'Pre-paint Premium', at least if the paint quality approaches or surpasses what rackham has been doing with AT-43. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristof65 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Kinda off topic but I wonder what impact the reaper pre-paints will have on GW. I mean, the PP orcs look to be cheaper then just about any GW orc blister. I think that's going to depend on the basing Reaper chooses to use, and the particular GW model it's being proxied for. If Reaper's base is either a match to the similar model in Warhammer, or easily convertible to one, I think there will be quite a few players who substitute the prepaints - if enough people do this, GW will stand up and take notice. But they might not notice an impact, since it's well known that you don't show up at an official GW event or GW store with anything other than GW models in your armies. I'm assuming that Reaper will be using a basing that can either be easily converted to the 1" standard Warlord uses, or a 1" base. If they use the 1" base, smaller models like Goblins won't be readily usable in Warhammer, since the GW goblins (and skeletons, I beleive), are mounted on a smaller 20mm base. Either way, I am planning on picking up the Orc PPMs to use for Warhammer, Warlord and any other game I might play that would have an Orc army or faction. I don't like painting Orcs at all, but it's nice to have an army to use to introduce someone to the game. And finally, to bring this back to topic - GW annoyed me with their current version of Epic - I like the new rules, but there is still no official Tyranid army list for it, which happens to be the only Epic army I have fully painted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant_Crunch Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I'm guessing the PPMs are going to be a 1" base, useful for both Warlord and those nice 1" grid battlemats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanite Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 So a bit of praise to GW: they're consistent. Even when their releases are spread over years and not months, they deliver the product. I was at my FLSG today, picking up my Reaper order. Apparently, they were big into Dark Heaven Armaggeddon(sp), Warlord, CAV, and each one went the same way, with the support drying up. And it's not just Reaper either, AT-43 releases are thin on the ground, he's actually selling BF:E, but he can't get more, and who knows when the next wave will hit. In fact, every Mongoose game has gone the same way. He went all the way back to DP9 changing the scale on Heavy Gear, it's endemic to the industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristomeyers Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Part of the reason BF: EVO is so hard to find in the states is because they only sent around 1/4 of the first shipment here. That and, by all reports, the game is really taking off. Business-wise, it was smart, most of their support is in Britain. Not doing them a whole lot of favors over here though. Pity, it's a great game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erion Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 So a bit of praise to GW: they're consistent. Even when their releases are spread over years and not months, they deliver the product. I was at my FLSG today, picking up my Reaper order. Apparently, they were big into Dark Heaven Armaggeddon(sp), Warlord, CAV, and each one went the same way, with the support drying up. And it's not just Reaper either, AT-43 releases are thin on the ground, he's actually selling BF:E, but he can't get more, and who knows when the next wave will hit. In fact, every Mongoose game has gone the same way. He went all the way back to DP9 changing the scale on Heavy Gear, it's endemic to the industry. That's something I've been trying to pound into Reaper's Collective skull (no pun intended) ever Since the release dates for CAV1 models started to slide after the printed rulebook was released. The single most important thing Reaper can do to build their reputation as quality gamesmiths is to publish a release schedule and stick to it. If the release of anything is going to be late, make an announcement in advance, apologize, and estimate when it will come out, if possible. Even if you have to produce three or four months worth of releases in advance before you even announce that a line is coming out, at least you'll be able to meet your initially announced schedule because you have everything in hand before anything was publicly set into motion. Privateer Press was a perfect examle of this. Models for release produced well in advance of the target date, and even then demand for Warmachine when it first came out was so high they had to delay the third or fourth months worth of releases to catch up production and restock already released models. They let everybody know in advance that it was going to happen, and during that time they also brought more casting capacity online to keep up with demand. They made it through that little hiccup stronger than ever. I've been seriously playing tabletop wargames since 2000, and in that time I can not recall a single printed product from Reaper that was available on or before it's originally announced release date (and someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). CAV was plagued by problems with 3-d printing and model breakage. I used to be glad that Reaper was so forthcoming with information about upcoming product, but all they've done is build a reputation for themselves as a company with great models and big ideas for games that they have a hard time delivering on. GW's the industry leader because some of the 'new' Eldar models I bought in November had ©2005 on the little tabs for insertion into slottabases -- meaning they had likely been designed and approved at least 11 months before they were made available for sale. I'm actually sort of afraid for Warlord right now. Not only are large numbers of datacards getting thier second revamp in less than a year, but they're also changing the format of their update books before they even got thorugh each faction. Hooray for responding to customers, but you're undoubtably going to rub some folks who end up without a faction-specific book the wrong way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanite Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 I'm actually sort of afraid for Warlord right now. Not only are large numbers of datacards getting thier second revamp in less than a year, but they're also changing the format of their update books before they even got thorugh each faction. Hooray for responding to customers, but you're undoubtably going to rub some folks who end up without a faction-specific book the wrong way. There's that, and the announcement is that it makes it sound like CAV is all finished, when it's not. I mean, if it wasn't for Alliance listing we wouldn't even know when the paper book is due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erion Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Well, Reaper has pretty much said they're done doing anything new for CAV, at least in-house. I'm hoping the delay for pre-orders of the hardback is because of revisions they've already said they plan to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingwreckage Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Was someone here in love with the gasmasked Forgeworld dudes for the IG? http://theminiaturespage.com/news/704849/ Not really the same, but they might scratch the same itch. On the subject of Epic: http://darkrealmminiatures.com/DRMrange/rangeindex.htm http://www.commandhorizon.com/ http://ironwindmetals.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=16 Why on earth would you use Epic miniatures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Porsenna Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Why on earth would you use Epic miniatures? For the best reason why one plays miniatures games: because one likes the miniatures. I play Eldar not because they are the "killingest" army in the game, or for any especial love of 40K, but because I like the figures, a lot. If I ever decide to get into Epic, the first army I'd build would be Eldar (for the same reasons). Rules are a dime a dozen; if you're not going to use or play 40K minis in a 40K/Epic game, might as well play a better ruleset and dispense with it altogether (or perhaps just use the 40K/Epic minis in a better ruleset). Minis are an INVESTMENT, rules are NOT. Damon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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