kristof65 Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 <sigh> I very much wanted to get Space Hulk, until I read this: This is a one-off, limited edition product, with a single print run. If you have any interest in owning your own Space Hulk, I strongly suggest you advance order a copy today. What's the fricking point? It doesn't change the status quo, except for a very limited time - for years I've been able to get people to try Space Hulk, but the fact that they can't buy their own version of it does nothing to keep them excited about the game. This limited edition doesn't change that equation beyond a limited time frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanite Posted August 17, 2009 Author Share Posted August 17, 2009 While I doubt it will be bad like the planetscape, I agree with Erion, and there's no way it's as limited as GW is claiming. Unless they really are that stupid at marketing, and have zero interest in growing their customer base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOldcorn Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 New Space Hulk!! Damn it, resistance check failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orcsoul Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 100 dollars? That better be one heck of a set for that kind of price... I spent ~50 on maccrage and got a similar number of mini's .. granted they were lower point value so GW decided they were worth less... ugh, I can't stand GW's price model, it's so backwards :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlordgarou Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Let's see. I still have 2 copies of the original Space Hulk, plus Deathwing and Genestealer. If I need new tiles, I think I have two copies of Legions of Steel, as well as extra map packs. Toss in modifiers for a limited print run, and yeah, I easily made my saving throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Porsenna Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 IIRC Macragge originally retailed for $60. So for that extra $40 with Space Hulk you get a bunch of tiles, 2 rulebooks and dice. Worth $40? Maybe... Damon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristof65 Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I think SH was going for $50-$60 a box when I bought my copies back in the early 90s - given inflation, GWs pricing model, etc, $100 isn't as outrageous as it could be for all you're getting - in addition to the models, you are getting quite a bit extra - doors, floor tiles, etc, etc. Heck, FFG's Descent is $90, and really doesn't include that much more than this edition of SH. If they keep this as a true limited edition, you'll see these on eBay for $200-300 easy come Christmas time. Hmm - I may buy one for that reason alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erion Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 It's not really a bad deal (something like $2.80 per figure). But I'm exquisitely pissed off about the limited edition "Buy it now or miss it forever" mentality. It wasn't so very long ago that GW were justifying the cost of the Land Raider kit by saying the mold cost a quarter of a bajillion dollars or something insane and that the kit wasn't making much money. Well, here's a sprue they've made that, by the same "molds are super expensive" logic, They must be selling at a loss, since they won't have made nearly as many as they have made land raiders. Which is it? You will see these "Limited edition" models again. I'm firmly of the opinion that the "limited edition" involves only a gold sticker on the box that says "20th anniversary edition" and that within 18 months the game will be on sale pretty much as you'll get it next month, but without the sticker. Note well that the box art is lacking any sort of "limited edition" markings, as is the product description on the website. Only in the marketing materials is the limited edition nature of the product mentioned. Gw have done this before, and they will do it again. Descent comes with FAR more than 35 figures, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Porsenna Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I think SH was going for $50-$60 a box when I bought my copies back in the early 90s - given inflation, GWs pricing model, etc, $100 isn't as outrageous as it could be for all you're getting - in addition to the models, you are getting quite a bit extra - doors, floor tiles, etc, etc. Heck, FFG's Descent is $90, and really doesn't include that much more than this edition of SH. If they keep this as a true limited edition, you'll see these on eBay for $200-300 easy come Christmas time. Hmm - I may buy one for that reason alone. According to this site, the rate of inflation since 1993 was 51.02%. If you got the previous edition at $60, this edition is (adjusted) $10 more. Worth it just for the figures (the previous SH editions figures were pretty lame, even by the standards of the era...except maybe the Genestealers). As for Decent, saying it has a lot more figures is relative. Risk 2320 has orders of magnitude more figures. How do the figures compare objectively is the real question... Damon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristof65 Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 But I'm exquisitely pissed off about the limited edition "Buy it now or miss it forever" mentality. Same here. I refuse to buy it under a limited edition status. I'm firmly of the opinion that the "limited edition" involves only a gold sticker on the box that says "20th anniversary edition" and that within 18 months the game will be on sale pretty much as you'll get it next month, but without the sticker. I hope you're right - because as much as want to pick up some more copies, and possibly give some as gifts, I'm not doing so under a limited edition release. If it becomes a general release, I'll probably pick up at least two copies to supplement the original sets I already have. Descent comes with FAR more than 35 figures, by the way. Yeah, I know - it's 80 figures in Descent, vs the 38 in SH (if you include the 3 objective markers) - I looked it up before I posted the Descent price. It comes with about the same number of tiles, and booklets, but more counters, dice and three decks of cards. However, IMO, the quality of the Descent figures really isn't up to GW standards - in that regard, I don't think the new edition of SH is far off - 38 GW plastic minis are worth nearly 80 Descent minis. As much as I dislike GWs pricing policies, I think they're reasonably close with this one, given it's "Limited Edition" status, frankly I'm suprised they didn't price it at $150 or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanite Posted August 17, 2009 Author Share Posted August 17, 2009 I'm not really enticed by the models themselves. The dynamism of the terminators is nice, but I've never liked the standard terminator design, it would take forever to scrape off the blood angles gribbles if I wanted to use them for something else, and I've got a pile of stealers from the macragge box (and off ebay) that I have yet to paint. From the description, the box includes a: Cyber-Altered Task Unit What's that? It's listed with the dead marine, and Blood-Angles artifact pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisler Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 That was one of the original little objective markers in the first release of the game. You had to retrieve it in one of the scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billr Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Setters of Catan costs about $35, and it looks like there are more cardboard pieces in Space Hulk. Plus about 50 pages of rules, and a bunch of really nice minis. Black Reach minis are nice, but I think these are better. At least, the ones we've seen are. Its certainly not cheap, but I don't think its outrageous either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyberwolfe1 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Setters of Catan costs about $35, and it looks like there are more cardboard pieces in Space Hulk. Plus about 50 pages of rules, and a bunch of really nice minis. Black Reach minis are nice, but I think these are better. At least, the ones we've seen are. Its certainly not cheap, but I don't think its outrageous either. I care to disagree. First the models do not come with legal 40K bases, and they will have to be remounted. Second the genestealers are larger than their 40k counterparts meaning they are useless. Third GW has a nasty habit of producing better than production run models for the box art and you get stuck with... wait for it... sloppy seconds. Finally for the same price I can buy a 3-4 Hirst Arts molds and make a bajilliondy times better looking map. With a few tweaks to the basic rule set I have a game just as awesome and I can create a map tha would fill my entire house if I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristof65 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Sure you can - but the SH game is nice in that it's all inclusive. I can make my own SH maps, too, but how many people will actually sit down and make their own? Not many. Plus you can carry everything to a game convention or a friend's house in one box. Can't do that with Hirst Arts. Is it the best value in gaming? No. But it's a pretty good value, considering other factors - like the fact it's coming from the messed up pricing policies at GW. Space Hulk is the perfect game for getting people into 40k. GW should be treating it as such, not as some nostalgic limited edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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