wrightjd Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Here are two of my favorite 1000 point armies: Vampire Elsabeth Briarkiss Skeletal Breakers x7 Sir Osric Sir Athak Crimson Knights x6 Railor Skeletal Archers x6 Lord Vandrian Bloodseeker Banshee Crypt Sublegion Lord Kentaur Skeletal Breaker x8 Nivar Lord Dauron Railor Skeletal Archer x6 Zombie x3 Railor Skeletal Warrior x5 Wraith x4 Banshee Here's one I haven't fielded but would like to try someday: Judas Bloodspire w/GMA Crimson Knight x6 Sir Osric Sir Athak Crimson Knight x6 Railor Skeletal Archers x7 If you can't tell I enjoy elites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivrel Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 wait i thought Athak was an elite mage and sir Osric was a uique sergeant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiritual_exorcist Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Athak = Sergeant (not a unique one) Sir Osric = Unique Elite I like the first list, but I would almost surely group the Knights into Elsabeth's unit and use the Breakers to screen them. I've been toying with the notion of putting Vandrian into 1000 points. The Crypt Legion list you've posted I'm not a fan of, maily because you have no way to employ Necromantic Surges, which to me is the #1 Crypt Legion ability despite most people raving ab out Dark Energy; in combination they really work well. Dauron is probably a liability in this size game, but if you've found that he works more power to you. I love Zombies, but in this case I'm not sure why you chose them to go with your Archers. They are a powerful front line unit (combined with musician). Just thoughts. The Judas list might work well too, once you get him in he would be a Nightmare in this size of game, as you are unlikely to run up against many models that could take him down more than 1 track at a time unless your opponent is lucky, and he could just feed back up to full. keep him well supported and I think he is one of the few Warlords that can be taken in such a small game. I've never tried it myself, but I've toyed with the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrightjd Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Athak = Sergeant (not a unique one)Sir Osric = Unique Elite I like the first list, but I would almost surely group the Knights into Elsabeth's unit and use the Breakers to screen them. I've been toying with the notion of putting Vandrian into 1000 points. The Crypt Legion list you've posted I'm not a fan of, maily because you have no way to employ Necromantic Surges, which to me is the #1 Crypt Legion ability despite most people raving ab out Dark Energy; in combination they really work well. Dauron is probably a liability in this size game, but if you've found that he works more power to you. I love Zombies, but in this case I'm not sure why you chose them to go with your Archers. They are a powerful front line unit (combined with musician). I like the zombies iwth the archers for 2 reasons, 1.) in games I've played I've noticed people greatly fear necropolis archers, and keeping them protected by the zombies (who lack mobility anyways) is a good way to keep them from having to cover long distances and still serve a good purpose. Although your point about the necromantic surges is a good one. The best I've used the crypt sublegion is when Moandain is on the board. Other than that, I've had varying success. Best army I used included Moandain and Dauron in a 1000 point army. Dauron had GMA, and I think a lot of luck, but he pretty much destroyed a troop on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foolio_Displasius Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Hey, I'm new & considering getting into the game. What strategies/troops might go well with Azarphan and Naomi, if any? Few people seem to have discussed them. I love the models, and am thinking they'd look nice in a Vampire/Wraith-type force. Would this be viable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushmaster Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 In my crypt legion builds I always use Azaphan with a combined troop of Skeletal Warriors and Breakers with a musician . The whole troop can double move up to 14" in the 1st turn and they seem to work pretty well . As fo Naomi , she's too expensive with the Scry Shot ability to be effective unless you're playing 2000 points or more IMHO . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foolio_Displasius Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Interesting. So she's capable, but her power/cost ratio is better geared towards higher-point games? Is there any conceivable way to use her effectively with a small force? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vejlin Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Sure there is. It's just that once you get other models those will probably replace her in the smaller games. I've seen her put to good use in small games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenwolf Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Hey, I'm new & considering getting into the game. What strategies/troops might go well with Azarphan and Naomi, if any? Few people seem to have discussed them. I love the models, and am thinking they'd look nice in a Vampire/Wraith-type force. Would this be viable? Welcome to the lists. If you like Naomi try to focus on a mostly Vampire troop. Swap Elsabeth in for Azarphan and try to have all Vampire Leaders: use Judas, Elsabeth and Athak wherever possible. Maximize on Vampiric Feeding. Get some Crimson Knights and go to town. Mix some Wraiths in there to take advantage of Trencher. Naomi is expensive, but try her out. Scrye Shot is potent and great for picking off wounded Leaders, Elites and Solos. Get a feel for the Model. You may like her while others don't If you favor Azarphan, try a Crypt Legion list. They have some potent Faction Abilities in Dark Energy and Necromantic Surges. You can still field Wraiths and get some Skeletal Breakers and Moandain. Always bring a few Skeletal Archers in whatever list you make. Ranged attacks are very useful for whittling down your opponent before engaging in melee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiritual_exorcist Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Wraiths and Vampires work very well together, in fact Wraiths and Crimson Knights are very much geared to work together, as Crimson Knights have the Trencher ability and Wraiths have Reach, allowing them to function together quite well. Naomi really is a decent caster, she is limited by the fact that she carries the Scrye shot ability, which makes her pricey. In bigger games I agree she might really hold her own. In smaller ones I think you'd have to concentrate on using her as a Scrye shooter, Giving her accuracy upgrades and maybe just a couple of spells. If you like her, use her, shemight nor be terribly cost effective, but she's probably be fun to use. Azarphan is a good mainstay Captain, with a decent cost, use him in any capacity you want, he fits in well with both the Default and Crypt Legion forces. His Move of 6 makes him ideal for running with Skeletons, and lets fac it, even if you want to run Vampires and Wraiths in most Necropolis armies you will be fleshing your force out with Skeletons, even if it is just to bolster your numbers. The only knock against him in comparison to Elsabeth is that he can't use Vampiric feeding, so in most cases in a Vampire force she is likely going to be your first choise as a Captain. If not her, then Lord Kentaur is also often more appealing because he allows you to bring more Elites and he gives you a tactician card. Ultimately Azarphan is an excellent 2nd Captain. ANd I'm of the opinion it is often points well spent to bring a second captain than another sergeant and a couple more grunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwyksilver Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I'd field Naomi with a couple cheap Dispells and Bolts for Defensive Magic purposes to make sure those nasty Archers and Casters leave her alone and allow her to focus on Scrye Shooting. Keep her in the middle of a unit of Crimson Knights and Wraiths and use Dispell to negate the AOE formation busters and since LOS means nothing to her, she can stand in the middle and just fire away. Use her Magic more for Defense than Offense and use her Scyre Shot as her primary offensive tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foolio_Displasius Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Cool, folks. Thanks for giving me confidence that the great-lookin' models can be good for something! Looks like I'll be sticking Skellies, Crimson Knights, & Wraiths on the ol' Christmas List. (And I'll have to show what I indend for Azaphan & Naomi in the proper sub-forum one of these days...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legends Games Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 New player as well. I picked up the Starter Box that has Naomi, Azarphan, and 9 Breakers. I'm still reading through the rules, but would it be wise to add a handful of Crimson Knights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwyksilver Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Unless you're going to field a Crypt Legion list from the Faction book, you should always field at least a few Crimson Knights. With their Vampiric Feeding, they are a force to be reckoned with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiritual_exorcist Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 As a new player I'd likely work on a Default list (including Vampires) first, and then if You like the Crypt Legion you can begin to expand on those models more and more. Default allows you to field everything, so it is the list probably best suited to a new player while they figure out what they do and don't like. Crypt legion has alot of merits, but many the Vampires are fun to use. I'd pick up the Deluxe Necropolis set (if you don't already have the book) if you are looking to go default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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