Hinton Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 First, I want to thank everyone that gave their input, advice and encouragement in the WIP thread while I worked on this. I couldn't have done this without you (or at least, it would have been an extremely bad attempt). You're the best! Second, I'm calling this one done even though there's probably a ton of stuff that I could have done - or could have done better - to improve on this. However, there does come a point where you just have to stop or go crazy. Since Crazy is a very short drive for me (walking distance, really) I'm stopping here. I would still like to hear any advice, comments or critiques on where I went wrong or where I could have improved. I can always use that information on future minis. Thanks! So, after two and a half weeks, here's Alidee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Nice OSL, she looks convincingly lit up by the light coming through the window, well done. Oh, noticed that you asked for comments critiques etc...so here goes. 2nd picture down shows off the effect the best. Two things I notice after awhile are that in the last photo down, it appears that the side of her cowl should be lit up, but it's dark. Maybe the angle of the photo though, can't really tell which angle the side of the cowl is actually directed to. If it *was* facing the window then it should be catching the light there. If that was the case, then the folds of the cowl that are lit up now, would be dimmer, because the cowl would be hiding a bit of light from them. But yeah, can't tell from the angle exactly, just an observation on the photo. Secondly, the highest highlights go beyond yellow and into white. One of the techniques (call them *rules* if you will, I call them *guidelines* heh) to keep in mind when working on OSL is that the brightest highlights on the piece that is being "lit up" by the light source should not exceed in value nor intensity of the color of the brightest highlight that was used to paint your actual light source. Here, the window is a vibrant glowy yellow, so the highlights should be leaning more towards yellow than to white. The way it appears now is that she's being lit by another light source from overhead as well as the window, like maybe a modern day fluorescent streetlamp or something. Ok, just two observations, can't tell if that's the lighting setup used in the photo or not though, could be that as well, as I see that in the second photo down, there is a whiteish light being cast over the top of the wall, that looks like it might be coming from actual room lighting or something. Keep in mind these are not *criticisms* of your work but only *critiques* given to lend you a pair of someone elses eyes for a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orchid_Noir Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 For a first osl this abolutely rocks! (heck for a third or fourth it's still pretty kikkin') On the blue/white highlights that Darkstar mentioned, you could possibly highlight the ground a little (provided that this is an outdoor scene, to give the ground a bit of a moonlit effect, this could, IMHO, bring those highlights on the mini into a more "real" feel. (you could take it a step further and give the wall a little moonlight, too) On a different note, I like most OSL photographed against a black background, it can keep the background from spoiling the illusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG88 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Wow, Thats cool. I think you pegged the effect, looks like shes ready to assassinate or rob someone in the early morning or late afternoon. I think this scene is great and the osl is very good. That window and window sill look very real as do the floor of the room, so real at first I just figured you had a real light bulb on the other side of yellow tinted plastic glass window. Thats when you know you have done well, when another person looks at it and doesn't even realize you created the light with paint. See, I never saw the work in progress so I had no Idea. Very cool. - IG88. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chika Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 WOW! Great job on this fig. The OSL turned very realistic. Unfortunately, I never got the chance to see your WIP. If I didn't know any better, I would say that it looks like there was some kind of light behind the window for the light source and not the fact that the light source is actually the paint. Again, great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voladilk Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Same here. I was looking at the pics and showed my wife and her first reaction was, wow how did he get a light to shine through that window so nicely? You definitely nailed the effect mate. This is what I dream of being able to do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinton Posted December 3, 2006 Author Share Posted December 3, 2006 @DS: Thanks. The white on top of the wall is from a backlight (I used three lamps for shooting). Without it, there were shadows being cast from the other two that was completely destroying the effects on the ground by having her cast three shadows - 1 painted, 2 real. Thanks for the critique; I don't take it as a personal slight, especially when I've asked people to do it. Now, if you said that I was a horrible painter and should just give up, then I'd take it personally. @Orchid: Thank you. It is an outdoor scene, so I'll keep that in mind for the next one I do like this. @IG88, chika and Voladilk: Thanks! Saying that the window looks like a light is really shining through is a great compliment. I think that the window turned out better and more convincing than the mini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhandstudios Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Hinton, this is beautiful. I think the commentary from everyone els pretty much sums up what could be changed a little to make the next one even better. This piece is a major league cool mini! Keep 'em coming, I can't wait to see what you do to top this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vhaidra Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Hinton, that's just great!!! I also thought there were a real light source behind the window. After I read the comments and what you've said I know that it is painted. That's amazing. Looks absolutly real for me. Concerning the mini: The OSL looks good and it seems to be at the right places too. Only thing I would recommended is to paint the light reflections more spread out, you know? A little bit more blended into the blue of the cape. The reflection at her back on the lower right side is a good example for what I mean. It looks like a square with hard borders. I must confess that I don't like to search for other points on the mini which had could been better, because I think you really you outdo yourself with that mini and so I just wanna say: Really, really good Hinton! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanael Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 wow, Hinton! That's some nice stuff. I still haven't really tried any OSL (a few things that still-after several months-haven't made it to the finishing-spray booth), and it's one of the most impressive things I think paint can do. You've really hit it on the head with this mini. I do agree with DS about the highlights up to white, but otherwise the paint on Ali herself is really nice. The thing I'd most like to see in your next attempt would be a little more shape to her shadow on the ground. Not that it should be shaped perfectly like her, but it seems a little square as it is now. Beautiful work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vutpakdi Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Really does look good. I have to admit that, when I first looked at it, I also thought that there was light shining from the window out. It'll be a long time before I try OSL, and I hope that I do half as well with my first attempt. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinton Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 Thanks, everyone; you're all great. I learned a lot from this and I hope that my work will only get better from here on out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogre Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Thanks, everyone; you're all great. I learned a lot from this and I hope that my work will only get better from here on out. I was trying to figure out how you got the yellow light coming through the window to not spill into the rest of the figure and then I realized it was painted. Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nissiana Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Add one more belated, but hearty "well done!" You're not the only one who learned from your (well-documented) progress on this piece. I like the cross-bar in the window, it's a nice extra touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eragon Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 looks realy great any tips i,m about to start my first osl which i am realy looking forward to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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