Cerridwyn1st Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I haven't done a digital bikini for this one, so you'll need to go to the website. Please keep in mind that the linked images are of a nude. The idea was to convert Virina from a demon/succubus to a satyr. I don't know why, but when I saw the sculpt I just thought she'd be cute that way. So far I've done the following: Removed the model from the integral base and mouinted it on pins. Rebuilt the hooves (seemed to loose a bit in cutting her off the base.) Removed the large horns and started sculpting smaller ones. Sculpted over the bracket for mounting the wings in her back to make hair. Began sculpting some fur on her lower right leg. Mounted the arm on a pin so it will be easier to attach. Also so I won't loose the darn thing. Cut off the tail so it can be converted to a goat's tail (like a satyr would have.) I haven't attached the arm yet and I've bent the braid out of the way so I can get to the legs. I have been looking at the Beastman Woodcutters for ideas on how to sculpt the fur. Help or suggestions would be appreciated. Conversion Front (sorry this shot is a bit dark) Conversion Right Conversion Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slop_artist Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Sweet Idea! (But I have always been been a fan of Dorothy Quick's poem "Forest God") Good imagination and follow-through! Very well done! (so far) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versutus Vulpes Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Great Stuff Cerri... I wouldn't normally suggest this - but the GW site has some pretty good information on sculpting. I'd forward a link - but GW is blocked at work... I'll send when I get home:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versutus Vulpes Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I almost feel dirty posting this link... GW Greenstuff tutorials... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHorde Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Good work, so far. I like the idea for conversion, it's original and creative. Looking forward to seeing how this one progresses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordColdsteal Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Nicely done.. very nice. My only questions... and maybe I'm dense on this one... are there female satyrs? I thought they were all male, and the reproduced with human females who then had male satyrs? Anyway... i love the conversion... very nice.. can't wait to see more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurityThruFire Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 I don't think I've ever seen a femal saytr either. Needless to say this is quite an interesting project and I can't wait to see how it turns out. The only thing is her legs seem a little bit on the long side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwyn1st Posted June 29, 2007 Author Share Posted June 29, 2007 (edited) All: Thanks for the cudos. I'll update as soon as I get a chance to do some more sculpting. VV: Thanks for the green stuff link. LCS & PTF: You're not the first to point out that there are no female satyrs in classical mythology. Not sure if they reproduced with human females or nympths. I'd like to point out that there are no female centaurs in classical mythology, either, but after 20+ years of them being depicted, we've gotten used to it. Maybe if Piers Anthony put female satyrs in Xanth along with female centaurs, it wouldn't seem so odd. Edited June 29, 2007 by Cerridwyn1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slop_artist Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 My only questions... and maybe I'm dense on this one... are there female satyrs? I thought they were all male, and the reproduced with human females who then had male satyrs? In classic Greece, Satyrs were symbols of the male sex drive, and were aroused men with human feet. Upon adoption by the Roman culture, they were considered "Fauns" (like the god Faunus and the goddess Fauna) and became "goat like" with hooves, hair, and other Pan-like qualities. This represented a carnal depiction of sexuality being different from the human condition, and the Roman depiction was one where the women could participate as well. The Greeks never had a female version of Pan - as Dionysus was represented in a human form there was no need. It should be understood that the placement of women in the classic Greek culture and the classic Roman culture were adversely different, as demonstrated by their religion, art, and writing. Children and females have been represented for centuries as Satyrs, but never so historically endorsed as the male adult Satyr. That is to say they were recognized, but just not as "main stream". LCS & PTF: You're not the first to point out that there are no female satyrs in classical mythology.... Actually, they are not in European paintings depicting the myths, but they were recognized at the time. I could prattle on about the women's role in western culture rivaling that of western history, the Age of Reason, Plato, and even the Upanishads and how they link to classic Greece, but I think this sums it up the relevance. Be that all as it may - after seeing this mini, if a female Satyr never existed before, there is one now. I would even venture to say its just as real as any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwyn1st Posted June 29, 2007 Author Share Posted June 29, 2007 In classic Greece, Satyrs were symbols of the male sex drive, and were amply endowed men with huge ears and human feet. Upon adoption from by the Roman culture, they were considered "Fauns" (like the god Faunus and the goddess Fauna) and became "goat like" with hooves, hair, and other Pan-like qualities. The Greeks never had a female version of Pan - as Dionysus was represented in a human form there was no need. Be that as it may, after seeing this mini, if a female Satyr never existed before, there is one now. I would even venture to say its just as real as any. When I visited the Louve in Paris with my family, my conservative, Bible-belt, Deep-South mother got to see a Greek Satyr fisrt hand. She was horrified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slop_artist Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 I *SHOULD* post after I write it all in, but I'm an post "post" editor from way back. I keep adding this and that, here and there, in an attempt to make it less "steam of consciousness" and more referenced. I should settle down, but I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slop_artist Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 When I visited the Louvre in Paris with my family, my conservative, Bible-belt, Deep-South mother got to see a Greek Satyr first hand. She was horrified. Yup, culture shock can be a terrible, yet fun, thing to watch. No matter where you go.... there you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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