SaintRigger Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 I hate the new GW primer for metal, but I am growing really fond of it for plastics. The only downside is the cost, it is really spendy - but I can get it personally relatively inexpensively. Jenna was working on some plastic empire soldiers for a friend and was impressed at how smooth the white undercoat was. The krylon seems ok.. I've used it and have been relatively happy with the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodnik Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Just to support some of the statements here--- Priming problem your having---one of two things Humidity or overspray. Which, incidentally, are the two most common things that cause texture in a prime. Overspray was covered with the primer drying before it hit the mini---- Humidity---some will object and say they've had great results in all conditions, etc..etc...but generally speaking, the ideal humidity for priming is less than 50%. If the humidity gets too high, you'll end up with a condition I affectionately refer to as "sponge coat". Basically, it's a lot of texture and it soaks up the friggin' paint like a sponge. A couple of ways to deal with humidity---so..high humidity means there's too much moisture in the air. The only way to solve the problem is to remove the moisture. You can do this by heating the air, warming the primer, etc.. Being in Georgia, humidity is a major problem for me. So, I have a booth---I have a humidity meter (about 12 bucks at Wal Mart), and I use a combination of heat lamp/ac to regulate the humidity inside the booth. You can do the same thing with a simple box and an incandescent light. You can help matters, too, by slightly warming the primer can in water.... As far as good primers--- I concur on the Krylon suggestion--same makeup as GW primer and at a third the price. I've always had more luck with the Krylon primer in terms of QC. I'm reasonably sure GW doesn't manufacturer their own....they just buy it and slap a label on it. For the advanced/competition painter--I recommend Tamiya Fine or Super Fine. Both require a little extra care on mini prep....and they are extremely expensive. About 8 bucks for a can half the size of the Krylon can. And that's my primer info-dump. Cheers, Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwyn1st Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 BTW, in a Painting for Competition class I attended this weekend, the instructor suggested sitting your can of primer in warm tap water for 15 minutes before priming to heat it up slightly. As for primer for plastics, there is always Krylon Fushion. It is specifically made for priming plastics and you can get it in a wide range of colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougrob173 Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Yea yea yea.. some people glue their fingers together.. I spray prime my face :P Well at least I'm not the only one to accidently spray primer my face. Of course it had to be black primer and I didnt have any paint thinner around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orcsoul Posted August 24, 2007 Author Share Posted August 24, 2007 Oh trust me I've read some stories about people who sprayed primer in their face, or sealant... lol Mine was barely an incident.. just a mist that got blown in my face and all over my body and into my pores. Though I have a question... the krylon fusion isn't advertised as a primer, but as an actual paint... does it even matter? Asked a few folks at the local hobby lobby that couldn't really suggest anything except stick with tried and true methods and use the actual primer over the fusion stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurityThruFire Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Oh trust me I've read some stories about people who sprayed primer in their face, or sealant... lol Mine was barely an incident.. just a mist that got blown in my face and all over my body and into my pores. Though I have a question... the krylon fusion isn't advertised as a primer, but as an actual paint... does it even matter? Asked a few folks at the local hobby lobby that couldn't really suggest anything except stick with tried and true methods and use the actual primer over the fusion stuff. I tried using the black fusion on my plastic minis, I did not like it one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orcsoul Posted August 24, 2007 Author Share Posted August 24, 2007 By the very name of the paint it sounds like stripping a paint job with fusion would be nigh impossible to get the primer off... i'm guessing the paint melts/fuses (fusion.. hah.. imagine that) to the plastic creating a permanent layer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kutz Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Most of the time when priming plastics I'll use one of the model primers available (Testors, Tamiya...). That said, Duplicolor should work quite well on plastic. I normally use it on cars and have used it with no problems on polyester compounds, ABS and acrylic (fiberglass resins). Now the styrene used in a lot of plastic minis is a bit different, but in my expierance if it sticks to ployester it will stick to nearly anything. As far as Krylon Plastic Primer...nope, Fusion doesn't work very good, when playing around with it paints didn't stick well to it. But Rust-oleum Plastic Primer works well enough. Only comes in white last I looked, but the spray lays down pretty well. When I get a chance I want to check out the quart containers to see how well they work through an airbrush. One quart of plastic primer would probably last me through most of the plastic minis I still need to prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orcsoul Posted August 24, 2007 Author Share Posted August 24, 2007 Yea maybe when it starts to cool down in a month or two *crosses fingers* i'll have a go at spray priming again ... lately it's just not worth the sweat invested in the mini to go outside and brave the humidity... bugger the effect it has on the primer :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orcsoul Posted August 25, 2007 Author Share Posted August 25, 2007 By the way, Orcsoul, if you catch me at War Dogs I can show you priming technique. If we ask nice Devon should let us go out back to prime. That reminds me.. when does the painting croud tend to meet up at War Dogs? Is it just a kinda random thing every weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwyn1st Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Painting workshop is the first Saturday of the month, approximately 2pm. Bill Smith doesn't usually show up until after 5pm, when he gets off work. I used to do the Painting Workshop every week on Sunday, but that became a real drag for everyone involved. Once a month seems to work just fine. If you catch me in the Game Store at another time I'd be willing to sit down and paint if I'm not too busy, but the First Saturday of the Month is the biggie. It is rare that a convention conflicts with that, which is another good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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