Cerridwyn1st Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Yeah, but with enrage it does pay to have a decent cleric nearby, unless your opponents a dwarf player then it doesn't matter. Of course, thats why you get MORE ORCS with a reven army . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilbob Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Most friendlys I play are about 750, unless we have something we want to try out. Most tourneys I run are around 1500 (the next is 1200 and the previous was 1600). To be honest, I love a 2k-3k game, but working full time ect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivrel Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Yeah, but with enrage it does pay to have a decent cleric nearby, unless your opponents a dwarf player then it doesn't matter. Of course, thats why you get MORE ORCS with a reven army . Pardon me I forgot to check whether it was me or my mom who was logged in again before I posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Oh..and I also forgot to remember to mention the beauty of having an Enraged orc with the Frenzy SA. If you want to see a mean green one-shot Dice-O-Matic, then there you go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Theurer Posted September 5, 2007 Author Share Posted September 5, 2007 Hi everyone, Thanks for all of the replies and info. I think that I'm going with Reven and will build "blocks" of my army with a Giant, a unit of Ogres and a unit of Beastmen. I still want to go with as few orcs as possible and understand that it might put me at certain disadvantages, but we'll just have to see how things work out. thanks again, Mark, FR www.fictionalreality.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwyksilver Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Thanks for all of the replies and info. I think that I'm going with Reven and will build "blocks" of my army with a Giant, a unit of Ogres and a unit of Beastmen. I still want to go with as few orcs as possible and understand that it might put me at certain disadvantages, but we'll just have to see how things work out. Just remember there are some really liberal proxy rules. If you really like the beastmen look, I would recommend checking out the new Elven Satyr Warriors that are coming out in the not too distant future. You could proxy those guys for your Bull Orc Berzerkers (they already have those big honking axes) or maybe as Gaaguk, the Bull Orc Hero. I don't know how the Faun are going to look, but they could be a possible proxy for Lesser Orcs. Or you could use the Bugbear Warriors for some of the Bull Orcs. Or use the Beastmen of the Wyld set. Right there you have proxies you could use for Bull Orc Warrior (Stag), Berzerker (Boar), and Archer (Fox). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Theurer Posted September 8, 2007 Author Share Posted September 8, 2007 Related to my topic of choosing and starting to build my Reven army I was wanting some input regarding the base of the Hill Giant. Does he go on a CD sized base or the one that's included in his blister? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vutpakdi Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Related to my topic of choosing and starting to build my Reven army I was wanting some input regarding the base of the Hill Giant. Does he go on a CD sized base or the one that's included in his blister? The one in his blister. I believe that the CD sized base has effectively been retired except for the unofficial dragon (and not including the upcoming Elf and Reptus dragons). Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Theurer Posted September 8, 2007 Author Share Posted September 8, 2007 Thanks, that helps. Of course, knowing that a Reptus Dragon is coming doesn't help much at all because now I can see them being a second army for me :) Mark, FR www.fictionalreality.org Related to my topic of choosing and starting to build my Reven army I was wanting some input regarding the base of the Hill Giant. Does he go on a CD sized base or the one that's included in his blister? The one in his blister. I believe that the CD sized base has effectively been retired except for the unofficial dragon (and not including the upcoming Elf and Reptus dragons). Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwyksilver Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Thanks, that helps. Of course, knowing that a Reptus Dragon is coming doesn't help much at all because now I can see them being a second army for me :) You already came back. That decision alone is enough to damn you to 5 armies, 1 fully painted, 1 half painted and the other three in various stages of assembly and prep. Oh yeah, and there are new minis coming out. So make that 6, no 8 armies. Screw it, just buy em all. Get used to the guilt and get bigger army cases Abandon all hope ye who game here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakhak Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Thanks, that helps. Of course, knowing that a Reptus Dragon is coming doesn't help much at all because now I can see them being a second army for me :) You already came back. That decision alone is enough to damn you to 5 armies, 1 fully painted, 1 half painted and the other three in various stages of assembly and prep. Oh yeah, and there are new minis coming out. So make that 6, no 8 armies. Screw it, just buy em all. Get used to the guilt and get bigger army cases Abandon all hope ye who game here. This might be the most truthful and accurate statement, I have ever read on these boards. My name is Adam.. I have all my lupines mercs painted, my reptus all assembled and half painted, my razig and darkspawn mostly put together but both have unopened blisters... /sheeds tears of joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Theurer Posted September 16, 2007 Author Share Posted September 16, 2007 Hi again, Still putting together thoughts for my Reven army and wanted to verify something before making purchases. Am I correct in thinking that a Reven army can only ever have one unit of ogres since there is only one "type" of Ogre unit and they are not basic grunts? Also, would the older hill giants from the Dark Heaven line, which are definitely ogre-sized, be ok for tournament use? I'll be writing an article on the putting together and painting of the army for Fictional Reality (www.fictionalreality.org) in prep for a battle report in an upcoming issue. thanks, Mark, FR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vutpakdi Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Still putting together thoughts for my Reven army and wanted to verify something before making purchases. Am I correct in thinking that a Reven army can only ever have one unit of ogres since there is only one "type" of Ogre unit and they are not basic grunts? If you want an all ogre unit, yes, only one, but not for the reasons that you state. Gurm, the ogre captain, is unique, so there can only be one Gurm in an army. The ogre warriors are adepts. For games under 2000 points, you can only have them in a single troop (unit, in your parlance). After 2000 points, you can have adepts of the same type appear in more than one troop for every 1000 points (2 troops at 2000+ points, 3 troops at 3000+ points). If you were playing a game of 2000 points, you could have two troops of ogres, but one would have to be led by a non ogre. Note that if you can have other types of adepts, it's just that all adepts of a single type have to be in the same troop (for games under 2000 points). Also, would the older hill giants from the Dark Heaven line, which are definitely ogre-sized, be ok for tournament use? As long as they appear on the appropriate sized base, yes. It's actually a bit more broad than that: you can use any mini from any Reaper line to represent non unique models as long as they are on the right sized base. It is poor form to use minis that might confuse others though, so ogre sized minis are a good choice. Ron PS: The proxy thoughts just gave me this rather amusing idea. One of these days, I might have to paint up an Ogre as a proxy for one of my Ogre warriors. A Borsig Spline Ogre that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Theurer Posted September 16, 2007 Author Share Posted September 16, 2007 Ha, that's awesome :) Ok, had a thought about my Reven army. Would it be permissible to use Bugbears or Hobgoblins in place of Orc models? thanks Mark, FR PS: The proxy thoughts just gave me this rather amusing idea. One of these days, I might have to paint up an Ogre as a proxy for one of my Ogre warriors. A Borsig Spline Ogre that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwyksilver Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Ok, had a thought about my Reven army. Would it be permissible to use Bugbears or Hobgoblins in place of Orc models Yup. So long as it is clear what models are what, and they are on the appropriate sized base, pretty much anything goes so long as the model is not Unique and is produced by Reaper (DHL, Warlord, Legendary Encounters, Legend of the Five Rings, Exalted, etc etc. The Bugbears may be tough for the Orcs only because most of them would not fit on a 1" square. But if you wanted an all Goblinoid, Grand Reven list, I would probably consider: Goblins as Goblins Hobgoblins as Lesser Orcs Bugbear as Bull Orcs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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