tanker22 Posted February 27, 2008 Author Share Posted February 27, 2008 Well you guys lost me with all the WH 40K lingo. I dont even kow how old these minis are, I guess that means they arnt epic what ever that is. I'll check out that site AD, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versutus Vulpes Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Epic is 6mm scale. Wee little tiny guys... Space hulk was kind of a board game that started the Warhammer 40K ball rolling. <edit> I just did some digging, WH40K predates Space Hulk by 2 years, my apologies for the error</edit> Kind of like a dungeon crawl mixed with aliens (a.k.a. Tyranids or 'nids). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armydillo978 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Yep. The nice thing about 6mm is that they're easier to paint and they fit into a nice small pill box with shrunk ship maps. Great for those road trips. We did a travel version using the 15mm figures (magnets glued to their base) from WotC's Axis and Allies with shrunk terrain maps as a travel Reich of the Dead testbed. Worked out great. For some examples of what I'm looking to make. www.kentaurus.com/tsphulk.htm and http://spacehulk.barsoom.cc/mirrors/shc/travelsh.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixminis Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I thought Tyranid attack pre-dated Space Hulk... wanders off to find GW history threads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enchantra Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Chris, I see you took my advice and came here to ask everyone. If you choose to paint the Terminators, go with one of the standard colors for marketability. I think they would look awesome in Blue myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanker22 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 Thanks again everyone, having done some 15mm historical stuff 6mm is pretty small but I can see the use for it. Interesting idea with the travel game though, that would be pretty cool I think. Any idea how I would list these guys as for the actual title, Want to be correct with the listing. I know what they are but anything special I should include like what generation or "classic", ect. Enachantra- thanks, think I'll try them as bare metal first and see what happens, then if that doesnt work go for painting them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRigger Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I think Bare metal would sell better - unless they have a pretty outstanding paint job. I think the first set of marines you have *may* be early Space Hulk marines - http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic110897_md.jpg Are the marines with the big roundy shoulder pads (the first picture) plastics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanker22 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 SR- No they are all metal in the first pic, going to try and get them stripped today if I have the time. I'll look for any markings or a stamp on the base when I do this. All it says on the base is "Terminator" on one side and "GW 1980" on the other. Nothing on the mini itself as far as imperial markings or the stuff that is normaly there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 For identification and pricing, I'd recommend you stop by the bolterandchainsword.com. Space Marine-only 40k forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberShadow Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Hi there. Most of this, you already know... but... The first picture that you have there are really early Terminators. There were two designs initially, and they are pretty rare. I agree that stripping them is the best idea. When listing them, you may want to set them in pairs, and put cross links in the item descriptions. Second picture are the first wide release of metal Terminators. These guys were around for years, from late 90's until only a couple of years ago. Now is a good time to sell these, since GW stopped its bits ordering and these guys are difficult to find. The rarest of this batch is actually the Inquisitor (cowl head one) and Cyclone (guy with a missile launcher on his back). Do the Cyclone guys have the targetter in their left hands? I cant make it out. For listing purposes, reading left to right, you have: Cyclone (black), Cyclone (black), Inquisitor (metal), Lightning Claws (metal), Terminator (Storm Bolter + ?, metal), Thunder Hammer (metal), Terminator (Power fist + ?, I think that the power fist is from a Marine. Is it plastic? Metal), Librarian (black), Terminator (Flamer + ?, I think, I cant make this guy out, black) and Lightning Claws (metal). You may want to split these up into 'standard' (one Cyclone and all 'standard' Terminators), 'close combat' (Lightning Claws and Thunder Hammers) and individuals (one Cyclone, Inquisitor, Librarian - as a group, this would sell fairly high I think). Traditional Warhammer 40K is a 28mm scale game. Epic is a different game, in the same background, but at 6mm. Epic is a passion of mine! Space Hulk was a board game crossover in 28mm, focussing on Terminators against a alien race (Genestealers). It did indeed follow 40K, but was a huge leap forwards as it was the first game to include plastic minis in quantity. There were two editions of this game. (I have SO MANY copies of it. I collected it for the board sections.) Tyranid Attack came after Space Hulk. It was an attempt by GW to appeal to younger gamers. Tyranid Attack provided the link between Space Hulk and Advanced Space Crusade (another favourite of mine!). I hope that this helps. All the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixminis Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Found it: Space hulk 1989, Tyranid attack 1992... got models from both. The Space hulk edition I had, the termies could swivel at the hip if you let 'em (plastic and modelled after the 2nd metal release). Termies: Earliest release didn't have missile launchers, 2nd release did, and they were an organic shaped missile launcher, 3rd release had a "rectangular" missile launcher... ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanker22 Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 striped these guys this morning and have some better pics for detail, there must have beenfive layers of paint on the old ones couldnt even see the detail until now. Actually very impressed with the amount on the newer ones as well, didnt really look at them that close until now. CS- thanks for the info, very informative. Yes the one guy did have a plastic arm so I guess I'm one short I assume the cyclone ones have the targeters, this is a better pic to be able to tell since I dont know for sure what I am looking at. Why do you suggest listing them in pairs though? Guess I should look to see how the blisters are normally sold. Once agina thanks to every for for you suggestions and help in this great mystery Chris Holy crap batman! I just got on the GW site and the normal terminators sell for between 5 and 8 pounds a peice! These things arnt cheap at all are they? I think I'm in the wrong buisness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enchantra Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 If one had a plastic arm that sounds like someone did a conversion, especially if all the others have everything in metal. I wouldn't worry to much about that one. Perhaps if the whole group doesn't sell as bare metal you can paint the plastic-armed one up with the others as a painted army. The great thing about all the stripping is that you found the hidden detail. If you went ahead and painted them you might have some fun with all that detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixminis Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 If'd you'd number 'em on the piccie, it'd be easier, but you've got a grey knight in their as well. Just found my old mariachi grey knight pictures as well (mariachi because the 'Eavy Metal paint jobs in some oooold White Dwarfs were quite colorful)... 2nd Piccie: Yup, those are the old ones (pointy-er shoulder pads and storm bolters that look like two bolters fused together/ the clips being slightly offset) 1st Piccie: Yes, targeters with cyclones, another grey knight and inquisitor in the upper right... and assault termies (thunder hammer/storm shield, and lightning claws)... oh and I think I'm seeing an old school flamer on the guy to the upper right of the lower left grey knight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epicenter Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 As someone who does almost all of his 40k fig buying off of eBay... Just to echo what others say, metal GW figs, especially older ones (like your early terminators) sell better and for a higher price if they're not painted. If you can strip them so that they basically look new, very early / rare Space Marine armors (especially Terminators) will fetch you a decent eBay price. As a rule, New In Blister/Box is the way to get the best price for something on eBay for 40k. Unpainted/unmodified/stripped of paint will fetch you the second best price (in some cases, the same as NIB). The minute the brush touches the mini for 40k, its value drops considerably in many cases. Even minis painted well by skilled painters or pretty hit or miss their value - occasionally people will get into a bidding war over the mini, but often contest quality minis go for like half of what you they could have gone for otherwise - unless the painter is known on eBay. The minute someone "converts" their mini (ie; replacing weapons and such), unless the conversion and painting are major Golden Daemon winning quality, the value almost entirely vanishes. I think stripped of paint with a certain amount of provenance (do a bit of research on Stuff of Legends and include the year and production run) and good photos, the early terminators could earn you a pretty penny. EDIT: Your post #28 photos are actually of fairly recent Terminators for the most part. Unfortunately, they suffer from "recently replaced" syndrome - I'm not really sure if you can get a good price at all for those. A lot of people have replaced them the newer plastic Terminators who aren't in that pronounced "coach huddle" and dump them on eBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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