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Alliance Troops and Browncoats? Played a great Serenity based miniature game at a con here in Denver a couple of years ago. The host had managed to find miniatures to fill the bill, but specific ones would be great. Alliance guys would work great for gallactic cops for darn near anything. And heck the Browncoats might work with an Old West game.

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Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but I'd really like to see highly detailed modern military figures. Most figures I find for this sort of thing just seem off in some way - like their rifles are cartoonishly huge, half of their equipment looks like it dates from the Vietnam era, or they "pull a Foundry" - they insist on putting some female fig in there who's usually more skimpily dressed than her male counterparts and is always using a smaller weapon than her male counterparts (I don't know who thought that's cute, but frankly it really makes me avoid Foundry - enough with the "chicks with tiny guns" or the polar opposite "chicks with huge guns" if I want to cop a feel of some scantily-clad female fig, there's plenty of other manufacturers I can buy from). While I'd be satisfied with just US figs appropriate to perhaps Iraq or Afganistan (no political statement here - I'd just like some guys carrying M4s instead of M16s, the helmet attachments, and so on), "special forces" in other themes would be interesting as well - especially if they're NOT in berets, or standard "fritz" helmets (or God forbid, old metal M1 helmets from Vietnam) or look like SAS from Iran embassy storming (black outfits with gasmasks) - I think the market's seen enough of those styles.

 

Other themes:

 

* A unit of "modern mercs" might also be fun in a similar theme. I don't mean rambo types, or similar "Soldier of Fortune" reading loonies, or refugees from John Woo Hong Kong era gun-fu movies (though ... there'd be a market for those, I think), but people who look like a mix between military people and civilians, suitable for use as merc NPCs or as player characters. I find such a characters to be suitable for use in most near-future and hard sci-fi settings as well.

 

* A sniper in a ghillie suit with a similarly attired spotter (they could even be sold as a pair!).

 

* Guys using modern looking missile launchers - you know, that don't look like bazooka/LAWs or RPGs or if not shooting them, at least toting them on their backs.

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Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but I'd really like to see highly detailed modern military figures. Most figures I find for this sort of thing just seem off in some way - like their rifles are cartoonishly huge, half of their equipment looks like it dates from the Vietnam era, or they "pull a Foundry" - they insist on putting some female fig in there who's usually more skimpily dressed than her male counterparts and is always using a smaller weapon than her male counterparts (I don't know who thought that's cute, but frankly it really makes me avoid Foundry - enough with the "chicks with tiny guns" or the polar opposite "chicks with huge guns" if I want to cop a feel of some scantily-clad female fig, there's plenty of other manufacturers I can buy from). While I'd be satisfied with just US figs appropriate to perhaps Iraq or Afganistan (no political statement here - I'd just like some guys carrying M4s instead of M16s, the helmet attachments, and so on), "special forces" in other themes would be interesting as well - especially if they're NOT in berets, or standard "fritz" helmets (or God forbid, old metal M1 helmets from Vietnam) or look like SAS from Iran embassy storming (black outfits with gasmasks) - I think the market's seen enough of those styles.

 

Other themes:

 

* A unit of "modern mercs" might also be fun in a similar theme. I don't mean rambo types, or similar "Soldier of Fortune" reading loonies, or refugees from John Woo Hong Kong era gun-fu movies (though ... there'd be a market for those, I think), but people who look like a mix between military people and civilians, suitable for use as merc NPCs or as player characters. I find such a characters to be suitable for use in most near-future and hard sci-fi settings as well.

 

* A sniper in a ghillie suit with a similarly attired spotter (they could even be sold as a pair!).

 

* Guys using modern looking missile launchers - you know, that don't look like bazooka/LAWs or RPGs or if not shooting them, at least toting them on their backs.

 

A lot of companies do these. I just finished a load of US marine from Eureka and I have some Bundswehr and NATO special forces making a beach landing.

 

But, yes - I agree. One can never have too many. :D Especially when it comes to zombie containment.

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Maybe a team of special forces members who were wrongfully accused of a crime they didn't commit and can be now found in the underground and can be hired as soldiers of fortune...

 

Check IMDB.com - 2009 or 2010 that comes out. Only they are Iraq war vets accused of a crime they didn't commit. Movie, not a series.

 

Honestly - I want to see some sort of video game type sculpts. The muscle bound marine with the minigun and a backpack of ammo. Or a BFG. Or anything along those lines - way too big weapons for a normal human to hold.

 

Minguns take out zombies, too......

 

Mike

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I want every Team Fortress 2 character:

 

http://cordweekly.com/bank/Image/team_fort...group_photo.jpg

 

While we're at it, I wouldn't mind a Dr. Freeman, Dr, Vance, Alix, a Voragaunt, a pack of headcrabs, and some Combine Elites!

 

Edit- I'm a roll:

 

Beaulah, from It Conquored the World

Peter Graves in labcoat or suit.

Planet of the Apes style apes.

The Brain from Planet Arous

Fiends without Faces

Saucermen, from Invasion of the...

 

A sci-fi familiars pack. that includes Trumpy.

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A lot of companies do these. I just finished a load of US marine from Eureka and I have some Bundswehr and NATO special forces making a beach landing.

 

But, yes - I agree. One can never have too many. :D Especially when it comes to zombie containment.

 

A lot of companies do them, but I always feel like I'm paying as much for a Reaper fig (or more) for a step down - for something Reaper (or really, Games Workshop, Rackham, or Privateer Press to be fair) would never accept to put into production - except maybe in the bad old days.

 

I'm convinced that historical gamers are so used to 10mm, 15mm, and 20mm minis that there's an acceptance of lower quality to reach the "5 star" rating, even at the 28mm "heroic" scale. I catch myself doing it all the time - my expectations for detail, proportion, and quality always drop when I start looking for historical minis as opposed to fantasy (or to a lesser extent sci-fi). I've seen those Kreigenspiel US Marines, and for me, they just reinforce what I'm talking about - the weird body proportions (like the guys who look like they have necks a foot long - and sure, "pencilnecks" exist IRL, but nobody ever goes to the effort of modelling them, it's just bad sculpting IMO), the badly sculpted guns, the weird press-mould friendly static poses.

 

I think it's honestly one of my biggest pet peeves. For instance, if you look at some Garrity or Klocke sculpt on Reaper and you'll notice the finely done chainmail, the detail on the sword hilts, the attention the folds of cloaks, the way the material of a belt pouch bunches up as it nears the drawstring. Meanwhile, for historical minis, we'll cheerfully accept glass-smooth fabric covers on helmets, night vision equipment that looks like a few pieces of chopped up plastic sprue glued onto someone's head, and so on.

 

What gives? That's what I'd like to see - Reaper to do some historical figs with the same lavish attention to detail that fantasy figs seem to have as standard.

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First things first, in SF/Fantasy gaming there is a "culture" of more detail = better. I don't necessarily think this is a good thing, as it can fail, the figure doesn't look especially distinct, or too "busy." Nonetheless, that's what people want, and I think the yardstick has become one were in order to compete, you have to cram as many pouches, filigree, rings, potions, etc on the figure to make it "good."

 

Second, even if you accept more detail = better for fantasy, you are naturally not going to get that level of complexity in historicals since people do not (nor did they) dress like that in real life. A 13th C knight isn't going to be festooned with pouches and paraphernalia. Sure, you can get more enhanced details (like FREX folds in his gamboissed cuisses, details in his scabbard, etc), but fantasy minis tend to take this a bit OTT.

 

Third, I think there are plenty of high quality historical manufacturers, just like there are plenty of crap quality SF/Fantasy manufacturers. Historicals are probably orders of magnitude more diverse than SF/Fantasy in terms of consumers. While there are plenty of people who are satisfied with a lump of metal that looks vaguely like a Sherman ("it passes the 3ft test!"), there are plenty of others that want detailed scale models that also happen to be wargame friendly. I very solidly fall in the 2nd camp.

 

Finally, I'm not so sure throwing a historical subject at fantasy sculptors will automatically make for better figures. Sculpting historicals (or even current) figures takes a lot of research, lots to do it well. While some have shown they can (Tom Meier's Fox minis sculpts FREX...except someone mentioned the GI's helmets appear to be backwards...)...

 

Damon.

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I've found myself buying a lot more under-detailed minis these days, because they're easier to convert to add personal touches to. A little pro-create here and there, and Viola! A "custom" mini.

 

I hope Reaper keeps that in mind on some of the Chronoscope line - FREX, many GW 40K minis have so many 40k specific icons sculpted all over them that they are a pain to convert to a more generic usage.

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Maybe a team of special forces members who were wrongfully accused of a crime they didn't commit and can be now found in the underground and can be hired as soldiers of fortune...

 

Already done by...The Foundry (appropriately called "The B Team")

 

Damon.

 

 

Good call. I'd forgotten about them. Awesome figs, though Sissy is kinda dorky, but the Team is really dead on good.

 

All I want is someone with a flame thrower. I've got AT-43 flamers for the various factions, and 40k flamers. I need some civilian, non-military type with flamers.

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Good call. I'd forgotten about them. Awesome figs, though Sissy is kinda dorky, but the Team is really dead on good.

 

All I want is someone with a flame thrower. I've got AT-43 flamers for the various factions, and 40k flamers. I need some civilian, non-military type with flamers.

 

Like Mr T with a flamethrower...oh man that would be awesome!

 

Damon.

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Speaking of Mystery Clocks, the Chronoscope clock thread reminded me that it occurred to me the other night that what this line needs are some Strangers.

 

I know Dark City isn't the highest-profile sci-fi movie ever, but ghoulish dudes in pulled-down hats and long overcoats would be menacing in any modern setting. I know there are a couple pulp figures out there in long coats, but they really are not to Reaper quality and not very customizable.

 

I would love to get something of quality in such a look as I could wrangle a Stranger out of it.

 

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2159843584/tt0118929

 

There's a great picture of what I mean.

 

Also their coatless, all-leather look is very Borg/City of Lost Children. Just a classic sci-fi baddie.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:The_Strangers.jpg

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I could definitely use strangers as spice guild navigators and guard for dune, as well as a bunch of other things.

They'd be some pretty killer models.

 

They'd work well for pulp too, or as Men in Black.

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Bruunwald is right on the money with that. Evil Nazi dudes. Pulp era characters, even good guys. They could be used in sci-fi, or steampunk as well. That is what I'm hoping the most for from this range. Easily convertible or at least usable to a greater spectrum of gamers.

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Bruunwald is right on the money with that. Evil Nazi dudes. Pulp era characters, even good guys. They could be used in sci-fi, or steampunk as well. That is what I'm hoping the most for from this range. Easily convertible or at least usable to a greater spectrum of gamers.

They'd make brilliant Gestapo operatives, yes :)

 

And with very little converting, you can make a mob of hasidics as well.

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