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I think almost everyone can agree short was an awesome ability in the game and should come back. It is sorely missed.

 

That made me laugh because "Short" is probably what you'd prefer it be called considering your views of halflings and gnomes.

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I haven't played a lot, but I've won with my Goblins. Of course, I play lower point games and pack my armies with as many Hill Giants as will fit. My Goblins are Hill Giant delivery devices...

 

There are BL that are still rooting for the Goblins. We know they got the shaft, they have their supporters! Why do you think the clans came back?

 

Not sure I agree with throwing in the Bugbears or other evil spellcasters though. I would rather see actual Goblins get the love (yes, I know, technically, Bugbears are Goblins, but they're more like an older sibling that gets all the attention)...

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You got it,Shak! When I started playing WL, the goblin Skeeters were seriously worth the 66 apiece because they had Marksman, they were Small (could have a second rank of normal sized archers behind them) and they could shoot twice (forgot what that SA was called) if they didn't move.

 

ONe thought might be to give the Small SA back and include in its description that when Small attackers are in b2b with an enemy model, friendly archers can still shoot at same enemy target (kind of like elves can) but perhaps with a -1 to hit.

 

Maybe the limit on a +3 support bonus could be lifted for them as they are so small and the fluff supports them attacking in swarms. :grr:

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I haven't played a lot, but I've won with my Goblins. Of course, I play lower point games and pack my armies with as many Hill Giants as will fit. My Goblins are Hill Giant delivery devices...

 

There are BL that are still rooting for the Goblins. We know they got the shaft, they have their supporters! Why do you think the clans came back?

 

Not sure I agree with throwing in the Bugbears or other evil spellcasters though. I would rather see actual Goblins get the love (yes, I know, technically, Bugbears are Goblins, but they're more like an older sibling that gets all the attention)...

 

Don't forget Elfibbets, he looks like a great caster fighter combo!

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You got it,Shak! When I started playing WL, the goblin Skeeters were seriously worth the 66 apiece because they had Marksman, they were Small (could have a second rank of normal sized archers behind them) and they could shoot twice (forgot what that SA was called) if they didn't move.

 

ONe thought might be to give the Small SA back and include in its description that when Small attackers are in b2b with an enemy model, friendly archers can still shoot at same enemy target (kind of like elves can) but perhaps with a -1 to hit.

 

Maybe the limit on a +3 support bonus could be lifted for them as they are so small and the fluff supports them attacking in swarms. :grr:

 

 

They have a support of 5, not three in the sublist. But, they can't have a reach model, so they can never have a support of 6 like anyone else.

 

The Warlord is very good, but too expensive. They should have a mega hero and a level 3 mage... two characters not one.

 

@ Dragon Snack - I know there are BLs that fought for the goblins in RAGE 2008. I did also, someone else may have suggested the clans coming back but so did I. I also fought for Skralla getting her bullet back.

 

I would rather see real goblins added too, but that won't happen. So, we have to think in a way that will not require Reaper making new models. Bugbears, Hobgoblins, Goblin Wolves and the evil casters fill that no new model needed requirement and keep the sub-list in line with the fluff. The strong magic of Reven is the goblin magic, Lunk is known to have a library of spells that in itself would interest Greka and Yagun. Besides we need a solo, the giant isn't enough.

 

Hopefully this will be the Goblins, and the Mercs year.

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You know, it's been so longe since I looked at the list, I forgot about the +5 support bonus for goblins.

 

The cost of The warlord doesn't bother me much, as I am used to playing the more expensive models anyway, but if you want to expand the models used in the game, how about the goblin ninjas from DHL.

Edited by bluethunder

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You know, it's been so longe since I looked at the list, I forgot about the +5 support bonus for goblins.

 

The cost of The warlord doesn't bother me much, as I am used to playing the more expensive models anyway, but if you want to expand the models used in the game, how about the goblin ninjas from DHL.

 

I'd have not problem using the DHL Goblins.

 

 

(Goblin Leader (OOP), 2876A)

Sedt Evilspeak

Affiliation: Reven/Evil Cost:

Rank: Captain (4-11/2) Base: Std

Dmg 0 1

Mov 6 4

Dis 7 6

DV 9 6

MD 11 9

S.A.: Mob Leader/11, Rabies

MAV 4 3

#MA 4 Backstab/3, First Strike

 

 

 

(Goblin Barbarian (OOP), 2932)

Nar Bloodfang

Affiliation: Reven/Evil Cost:

Rank:Hero Base: Std

Dmg 0 1

Mov 6 4

Dis 5 4

DV 9 6

MD 9 6

S.A.: Fearless, Rabies

MAV 4 3

#MA 3

 

(Goblin Shamen (OOP), 2876B)

Raz Madstench

Affiliation: Reven/Evil Cost:

Rank: Cleric Base: Std

Dmg 0 1

Mov 6 5

Dis 8 7

DV 9 8

MD 14 13

S.A.: Fearsome, Healer, Rabies

MAV 2 2

#MA 1 S.A. Reach

CP 7 6

S.A.: Defensive Magic, Cleric 3/12

 

 

(Goblin Pirate 3211A)

Gor Scattersticks

Affiliation: Reven/Evil Cost:

Rank: Rogue Base: Std

Dmg 0

Mov 6

Dis 5

DV 8

MD 8

S.A.:

MAV 3

#MA 1 S.A.: Backstab/3

RAV 4

#RA 1 Rng(18) S.A.: Slowfire

(Goblin Ninja, 3210)

Goblin Ninja

Affiliation: Reven/Evil Cost:

Rank: Adept Base: Std

Dmg 0 1

Mov 6 5

Dis 5 4

DV 9 8

MD 10 9

S.A.:

MAV 3 2

#MA 2 S.A.: Backstab/3, Rabies

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Where are you getting these stats? What is rabies?

 

Post 48.

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Don't forget Elfibbets, he looks like a great caster fighter combo!

Well, they ARE, but when they're casting, they aren't beating things and when they're beating things, they aren't casting.

 

Plus, I don't really like the sculpt...

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Don't forget Elfibbets, he looks like a great caster fighter combo!

Well, they ARE, but when they're casting, they aren't beating things and when they're beating things, they aren't casting.

 

Plus, I don't really like the sculpt...

 

Even if you use him as a fighter, he's cheaper than Varaug, and just as good in a scrap.

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Where are you getting these stats? What is rabies?

 

Post 48.

 

 

Those are interesting ideas but they are unofficial. That would invalidate the the test, to see if they are viable as a list, as is.

 

I admit it can be a challenging list but I like challenges. :rolleyes:

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Where are you getting these stats? What is rabies?

 

Post 48.

 

 

Those are interesting ideas but they are unofficial. That would invalidate the the test, to see if they are viable as a list, as is.

 

I admit it can be a challenging list but I like challenges. :rolleyes:

 

I'm not saying use those ideas in our game. I want you to get the beat down with the current list. I want the streets of Dayton to run red with goblin blood. So, some changes... not mine per se but some positive changes to the list.

 

As for the Warlords they are all good. Kiakara needs to be a better caster since see is definitely not a melee Warlord. Her stats are very close to those of Kristianna and Ne'pet. Her being 3/12 would really make her more usable and it would give Reven a level 3 cleric, which currently they lack.

 

I think the goblin warlord should be the gobbos most inspiring leader, so he should have a Mob/9 like Neek.

 

** I'm not sure when everyone else can play. But after 1/6/09 I will only be able to play Friday evening, Saturday afternoons and Sundays. My class schedule will be Monday, Tues, Wednesday, Thursday nights and Saturday morning 9-noon.

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Wow dude! You really wan to splat som gobbos don'tcha! I will be happy to give you that chance. Plus, it changes things up for me... a new army and all.

 

I'll check with the others and see when they can do it after 1/6/09.

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Scralla is up to her nose in goblin trickery... I wonder what would be the result of her giving a gold coins from Razigs hord to the dwarves on the Opposing side!?! :devil:

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