PaintByNumbers Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 It would be useful to have such a list. Especially for colors where its best to shade or tint the color using some other particular color(s) instead of using 3 adjacent colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant_Crunch Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 That's a pretty tall order for every paint in the line. I'd ask in the painting forum rather than here, better chance of an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaintByNumbers Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 Dude, this IS one of the painting forums. The Foundry style is more likely to be used for armies. That other painting section is mostly concerned with infinite layers of RMS. The are making a line suitable for other than layering, so they ought to support it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vutpakdi Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 If someone is trying to help you, being rude to them is hardly going to encourage others to try and help. I'm certain that Sgt. Crunch suggested the other forum mainly because the person best equipped to answer your question is much more likely to scan and read the other painting forum rather than this one. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant_Crunch Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Dude, this IS one of the painting forums. The Foundry style is more likely to be used for armies. That other painting section is mostly concerned with infinite layers of RMS. The are making a line suitable for other than layering, so they ought to support it... OK, first off, I was trying to help, I won't bother in the future. I don't care what style you're trying to use, my response still applies. If someone is trying to help you, being rude to them is hardly going to encourage others to try and help. I'm certain that Sgt. Crunch suggested the other forum mainly because the person best equipped to answer your question is much more likely to scan and read the other painting forum rather than this one. Ron That's exactly why, I've only seen Anne respond in the Painting Tips and Advice and Reaper General boards and I doubt anyone else has the information, well except for maybe Joe Kutz, but again, he's usually in the Paint Tips and Advice board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kutz Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 I read over here too. While the Pro Paints are on my todo list...it is a long way down on my todo list. That is of course unless a box were to show up on my doorstep filled with the new pro paints...but I won't hold my breath on that one. With a few minutes of work - I could probably go through and run the online samples through my personal colorspace analyzer (not available online though unfortunately) and develop a few different shade/midtone/highlight combinations. I've got a few orders to finish up, a new product I am working on...and of course the grass has finally dried off enough to mow it, so I've got about 10 acres of lawn to mow. I might get a chance to work on that a bit today. Anywho, I don't recall a list like that for the old pro paints...so I am not too certain that Reaper was planning on a list like that for the new pro paints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaintByNumbers Posted June 30, 2008 Author Share Posted June 30, 2008 You mean the arteest gentry don't go into the army painting ghetto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kutz Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 You mean the arteest gentry don't go into the army painting ghetto? I think they fear our dry brushes and magical dipping sauces (I prefer Ranch myself). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helltown Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 The arteest gentry take offense to people being rude to them, same as anyone else, PBN. As for the shade/mid/highlight combos of the new Reaper Pro Paints, since they didn't have one for the old ProPaints, I really doubt they'll make one for the new one. It's something we're going to have to do for ourselves. I haven't had a chance to play with them much yet, myself despite having access to all the colors at ReaperCon. Maybe Rastl has because she was using them quite a bit there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rastl Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Did I hear my name? I was more interested in how the two paint lines played together than entirely on the new Pro Paints. And PBN, I'm on the same page as Vutpakti and Sgt. about how you phrased your request. Anne loves all her children equally so if you have questions about the new PP line put something in Painting Tips and Advice so she'll have a chance to answer. The old PP line didn't have paint triads - those are new with RMS. And the reformulated PP line isn't a hybrid of the two lines. They're the PP line on energy drinks. So I don't see an official 'use 1 with 2 and 3 with 4 and 5 with 6' kind of answer for every color. But I've been wrong before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaintByNumbers Posted June 30, 2008 Author Share Posted June 30, 2008 >>>The arteest gentry take offense If any individual wants to proclaim their identity as such, that would be entirely their own decision. I ain't afraid -- if they come after me, I'll use this can of spray paint on 'em... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All-Terrain Monkey Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 All of the above posters are right on several counts, PBN. If you want to get information from Anne, you should post in the Painting Tips and Tricks forum, as that's one of the few she visits, or even just send her a PM. Between making all of the paint and painting for Reaper she has very limited time to spend on the forums, and usually concerns herself with posts about problems with the paint (if you watch her posting history you'll see this). Back when I used to work side-by-side with her I don't think her job description entailed scouring the forums to make sure no question goes unanswered. Anyone who reads her posts or talks to her for more than five minutes knows she loves her paint lines and loves talking about painting, but she only has a limited number of hours per day to do more work than any other painter I know. A lot of times when she does post it's because someone like me or ReaperBryan or others gives her a heads up to a problem or post they think she should address. Also, many members wanted to have their own painting forum for speed painting, as they got tired of non-Army painters constantly talking about layering, glazing, and other techniques that they didn't care about (which I can see how that would get very annoying very quickly), and that's what this section is. It's not an Artist Elite thing when a lot of people don't read this section, it's because it caters to only to Army painting, and there are already several fantastic posters in this forum who regularly post and help out people in regards to Army painting styles. As stated above, there wasn't a list like that for the old Pro Paint line, so it's doubtful there will be one for the new one. It's a stretch to say that just because a company puts out a paint line geared towards Army painting they should be obligated to list shades and highlights for it when the line wasn't designed from scratch to be that way. While the Foundry style is popular for army painting I don't think it's a de facto industry standard; I don't see any of Vallejo's or GW's ranges arranged that way. I think what you should do is look for equivalency charts and use them to figure out highlights and shadows if you're unable to come up with highlights and shadows on your own (I know several colorblind painters who have to do that in order to know what to use). And, like above posters have said, your confrontational attitude is the surest way to get people to ignore you and not help you. Except for the fantastic Joe Kutz, who's already mentioned what he could or couldn't do to help, the only other person who could give you exactly what you want would be Anne, as she's the one who made the paint. The "arteest gentry" you disparage (whatever that means) wouldn't be qualified to give you exactly what you want, so I'm confused as to why you didn't ask the source instead of create quite a scene in a thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kutz Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 http://www.silicon-dragons.com/reaper/pro.htm I'll go ahead and take a second look at it tomorrow - but that is what my tonal software pushed out. It should be broken down in terms of the hue as an absolute position around the color wheel (starting with red and ending in the violet realm of the spectrum) with a combination of saturation and luminosity determining its position as a shade. Most of the colors though do not have actual matches based off from this system - though it should help to make sense of things some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yani Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 I'm curious: wouldn't it work just as well to print out the colour swabs, cut out each one, and just mix and match around until there is something that would resemble a good-working triad? Or rely on colour-wheel theory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kutz Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 While there are too many variables in play with printed colors - if you had physical paint chips...yes, in a way you could. However you could also mix pretty much any color you can think of using a dozen different artist's paints...so why buy 80+ individual colors? Speed and simplicity, that is why. I mix a lot of my own paints...when I need a gallon or so to paint a car, or a very specific color to match that of something else. However I prefer not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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