morganm Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 So a while ago I bought this rattle can of GW Matte Varnish to finish multiple minis at a time. Now I've had several discouraging problems with spray on primer. One issue being that it's almost always too humid and when it's not too humid it's too cold =P I'm wondering if humidity effects spray on matte varnish like it does primer? I'd be royally pissed if I hosed up painted minis. I don't mind messing up primer but after I've spent hours painting something I'm happy enough with to varnish I really don't want the last step to make it all in vein. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whizard Hlavaz Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Yes. Humidity can affect sealants, which are prone to cloud or haze if too humid. Don't spray in high humidity. And don't spray a fresh coat over a still-drying coat. There's nothing worse than seeing a haze settle over your finished paint. A hairdryer can be used to successfully dry out a cloud, but I would only use this option in an extreme emergency. I wouldn't bank on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pae Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I can't remember if it's the Armory matte sealer or the GW matte sealer that is actually about as matte as 'just out of the shower'. The only time I've had Dullcote give me even a satin finish was when I put way too much on at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewen Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Armory matte sealer is satin at best. I have used GW matte, which can produce a frosty look, if too much is used or the weather is humid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidVC04 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I will tell you what I think about GW matte varnish. Rubbish. I hate it. It ruined my first two paintjobs that were good, as in "Hey, that kinda looks decent." Lost under a film of GW matte. A year or more later, I thought "well, maybe it was me. Now I'm better so let's try again." Unh-unh. Just as bad. Not for quality paint jobs. Now I will use it for skeletons and that's it. Otherwise, I hand varnish every model in the army. I don't care how long it takes. I hand varnish with vallejo gloss and then matte. Once that runs out, I'm sure I'll switch to RMS brush on varnish. GW matte varnish even when applied appropriately can "dust" your models and take away all your hard work. I say stay away from it unless you have some grunts you're not too worried about. Painting 60 skeletons? Sure. 4000 pts of elves? No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madog Barfog Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 I can't tell you about GW, but I use Golden MSA matte spray sealer. It's meant to protect artwork, and there is no warning about atmospheric conditions on the can, although I always spray in good weather out of habit. I've sealed a couple of dozens minis with it without any problems, and I am spraying over a polyurethane sealing coat that is about as shiny as you can possibly maka a mini! It won't yellow, as some can, and I suspect GW is one which do this. In general, GW accessories are either inferior to competitors or rebranded stuff sold at outrageous markups. If you suspect it, I would get a premium product, since you are paying a premium price anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganm Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 That's a good point Madog and I've slowly been realizing that with GW stuff. That is; paying a premium price for products that are not premium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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