GreyHorde Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 NMM and two sources of OSL, one obvious and one that might require explanation. Comments and critiques are most welcome. Seriously, help me improve. 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe b Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 The sword and ... either a Daylight spell being cast at him or a spell he's cast. Solid work, very nice. If you'll allow me, I think the sword could have remained "fully lit" on both sides ... it is a light source. If it is a light source that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHorde Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Pretty close - the intended effect was glowy sword and lantern light in front of him, off the base but nearby. You know, like he's rising out of the darkness to strike down the adventurer(s) invading his tomb...? Thanks, joe b, I didn't see the back of the sword that way. It's painted the same way as the front, but not lit properly for the photo. Here's the problem - if I fully light the model from three sides, then the OSL (off-base source lighting) isn't strong enough and it looks like his left side is highlighted. The black and very dark grey paint on his left reflects the photo lights and it doesn't look quite right. So, I went with two lights - overhead and to his right/front. That seems to help the front shot, but leaves the back of the sword mostly unlit and looking off balance. I think I need a cone spot or similar way to get light on the back of the sword, but not on the back of the model. Keep 'em coming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilwarin Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 That sword... looks... FANTASTIC! Oh my, I have never seen such like that before; you did a fantastic job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerebro1974 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Excelent job on the sword, my only thought would be to highlight the cape/cloak more, IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaGeek Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 The entire model is very well done. The object source lighting on the armor and red robe is great, but the cloak on his right side could use some OSL love. I'll have to disagree with cerebro. I think the highlighting on the cloak in general is fine, but that it instead needs some darker shadowing to increase the contrast. Either way, we're being a bit nitpicky, because this figure is terrific, just as it is! I'm going to bookmark this one, because I'm working on a figure right now for a D&D character that has a violet crystal sword. I had no idea how to approach the job, and now you've given me an excellent model. Thanks so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nissiana Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I really like the effect you've gotten on the sword itself! I'm always a little at a loss when picking where in the sword the light source will be strongest. Some other little details I really dig: The gems in the hilt are awesome, as is the lighting on his front lower right--love that underlit torch effect on his armor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimL Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Once you explanined the direction of the OSL, it makes sense. I like the idea of facing the torchlight, although I'm not sure I'd like to come across this guy in dark alley! I also think the skull is very well done and the sword is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbimaior Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Oh my goodness, that sword and its OSL!!! That's exactly what I'm after for a miniature of mine: Agramon the pit fiend Reaper (the fireball in his hand: I wanted to colour it like green fire, since I have the filling that red would stand out too much from the colour of the demon itself, which I want to make dark blue). I hope you don't mind if I use this piece as reference for mine, it's not exactly copying, or is it? and anyway your piece is just about too right for not being taken as inspiration. Impressive work Dave. Now I can see even better the concept, we talked about of the stripe of solid white representing the highest point of light. In the sword the central white line is not perceived by the eye as white, but rather than green light too intense to stand: the lightest green! thank you for the tip! What can I say about a piece like this? I have nothing to objet to. Only one question, how did you do the wear of the cloth? your beloved reaper smoke, maybe? In the end, great work and hope to see more of them, quoting you: "Keep 'em coming" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Baasen Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Fantastic lighting on the forward hand. The Sword is Stunning. Great Job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushmaster Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Great paintjob . Absolutely love the sword . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanker22 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Very cool work on it! I love the sword and the overall job you did on it. Great looking min! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewen Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Awesome! Great work. Love the colors. Now I have to get this one on my painting bench. He's been primed and ready for over a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerdrew Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Awesome paint job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHorde Posted April 1, 2009 Author Share Posted April 1, 2009 The entire model is very well done. The object source lighting on the armor and red robe is great, but the cloak on his right side could use some OSL love. I think you’re right – on his right (your left when looking at the first two pics), bringing in just a touch of yellow/orange to hint at the torch/lantern light would probably be good. On his left, I think I need to emphasize the upper shoulder plate with both a shadow cast by his head and the greenish glints from the sword. I'll have to disagree with cerebro. I think the highlighting on the cloak in general is fine, but that it instead needs some darker shadowing to increase the contrast. Either way, we're being a bit nitpicky, because this figure is terrific, just as it is! Thanks for both the compliments and nitpicky critiques – I need those more than anything else if I am ever to improve. I like your suggestions, but I am not quite sure where you mean to apply darker shadowing to increase the contrast. The entire cloak is Pure Black, highlighted to white on the ‘lit’ sides and elsewhere only slightly with very dark greys. This I thought was just enough to pull down a little of the sword’s light - like gravity, with decreasing intensity as the distance from the object increases. Part of the effect seen as lack of contrast or extra highlighting may still be attributed to a combination of slightly shiny paint (no Dullcote on the model) and light reflecting off the other diffuser screen in my homemade photo light box. Still, if you can be more specific about the areas you see as lacking contrast, I will be glad to have another look. Maybe if I throw on some Dullcote and drop out that diffuser panel or cover it with a matte black sheet…hmmm….maybe a touch more highlighting on the cloak for the sword OSL…dang, now you’ve got me thinking on it, again, and I was hoping to call him done. I'm going to bookmark this one, because I'm working on a figure right now for a D&D character that has a violet crystal sword. I had no idea how to approach the job, and now you've given me an excellent model. Thanks so much! You’re very welcome, but honestly, credit for the inspiration belongs to Mengu for his notes in another thread…I’ll have to dig out the link…well, he pointed out how a glowing object like a weapon is reversed, getting darker toward the edges instead of lighter. Also, Samedi over here made the suggestion for the figure to be ‘glowing from within’, I just applied it to one part instead of the whole mini. In fact, even though the sword was one of the last things to see major paint (at least twice) I thought from the beginning that maybe the title of Ghost King belonged not to the figure, but to the sword. He wears the crown, but the sword is the real power, here. It was just a daydream, though, and had little to do with the actual painting. I really like the effect you've gotten on the sword itself! I'm always a little at a loss when picking where in the sword the light source will be strongest. Some other little details I really dig: The gems in the hilt are awesome, as is the lighting on his front lower right--love that underlit torch effect on his armor! Thanks, again. The underlighting was a little risky, so I’m glad it turned out okay. That too may be partly an effect of the photo lights; it doesn’t seem quite so strong in hand. I am tempted to go back and redo the gem on the front face of the sword hilt, though – the highlights should be more nearly horizontal, as if picking up the side light. The one on the back is a bit more subtle, is not hit directly by lantern light, and is more in line for a little light from the blade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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